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Have you ever had a family on a subsidy who obviously doesn't qualify? New family just started last week, both parents drive brand new SUVs and own a boat and send their kids in expensive clothes (I'm a finger painting mud friendly daycare too!) . Nice family but they're obviously working the system. It's sad because so many families need the subsidy but never get off the wait list. One of my friends works for a subsidized only preschool and she says it's very common.
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Yup. It's pretty common.
Are the parents married? I am guessing they aren't and/or they claim that they don't live together.
I know many families who are on section 8, food stamps, medical, subsidy, and they have more money than I do. -
I see that ALL.THE.TIME. The reward for not getting married.
I have wondered if *they*
got rid of the marriage variable entirely and always combined the household income of both PARENTS. Period. (Like FAFSFA already does) Whether that means one or two households is irrelevant. Would this abuse stop?
Spitballing : Thoughts? It is naptime and I am sincerely curious.- Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.
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They have different last names, so probably not married even though they have two kids. Man I shouldn't have got married :
: It doesn't pay to be honest nowadays.
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With childcare being such a huge chunk of family income and cost going up that's not a bad idea if they could weed out all of the fakers there would be more money to go around. Anytime goverment reform is mentioned you always hear about fraud but funny enough never in the childcare industry.I see that ALL.THE.TIME. The reward for not getting married.
I have wondered if *they* got rid of the marriage variable entirely and always combined the household income of both PARENTS. Period. (Like FAFSFA already does) Whether that means one or two households is irrelevant. Would this abuse stop?
Spitballing : Thoughts? It is naptime and I am sincerely curious.Comment
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I only see one perceived flaw in your theory. I'll take that and raise you a:
"Having children is a huge hunk of family income.
If people stopped feeling entitled to money for breeding, maybe there would be no need for childcare subsidy. "
I love a good debate. happyface Yes, I know $hit happens, that is the REAL reason for subsidy. :hug: This is in hopes of good fun and honest discussion.- Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.Comment
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You're right about that. The mom to my special needs, micro preemie twins was on top of the world before her multi-million dollar babies were born. She lost everything: her house, her car, two successful businesses, and her husband. She's went from well-to-do to flat broke. I just got her new approval from childcare services and her copay went from $10/month to over $500. She doesn't make much money hourly, and misses 25% MINIMUM of her scheduled hours each month due to her kids' health needs. I just don't understand how they think a single mom of 4 with no child support coming in can afford to pay that. She'd honestly come out ahead by not working at all, but she won't do that. It must be different in different geographic areas, because what I see here is moms with very little income getting very little help from childcare assistance. One of my assistance kids' mom was awarded $11 a month in assistance. She's a full time student with a part time job (she quit her full time job to return to school so that she could support her kids-she also receives NO child support.) Her mom pays her childcare because there is no way that she could. I'd love to see more people qualify for assistance here, because there is a true need that isn't being filled.I only see one perceived flaw in your theory. I'll take that and raise you a:
"Having children is a huge hunk of family income.
If people stopped feeling entitled to money for breeding, maybe there would be no need for childcare subsidy. "
I love a good debate. happyface Yes, I know $hit happens, that is the REAL reason for subsidy. :hug: This is in hopes of good fun and honest discussion.Comment
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Leigh, I had a couple clients hit with circumstances like that, too. One was the family I gave three years worth of free childcare, for two children.
Another was for 2 years, one child.
Both families are back on their feet, now. It took 9 years for the first, 6 for the second. BUT their worlds are turning back around.
:hug: To your DCF. IME, People are always willing to help those who put forth effort to help themselves. I am glad they found you.
Have you referred her to child support recovery services?
- Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.Comment
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My DD sees it every day. Parents come to apply for free/reduced lunches driving brand new cars, wearing lots of sparkly jewelry, carrying Coach purses.
They have no income, friends support them. Or so they say.Comment
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This is really common where I live, and it is 99.9% of the reason I do not take subsidies. I've interviewed families who roll up in Mercedes Benz that want me to take a voucher from them - ya, no!
I also work at a salon, and so many of the women there work every system available, it makes me sick! I feel if they took all their efforts in learning how to defraud the system and put it into bettering their career, they wouldn't need the assistance in the first place!!
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I have 2 families on subsidy. One married with 2 kids.
The other family is divorced with 2 kids but living with their significant other (who is not bio-parent) in a really nice house they just purchased together.
The married parents are both home today.
I have their kids in care.
The divorced parent is in the Caribbean on a white sandy beach drinking fruity drinks and posting on FB how much fun their having.
I have those kids in care today too.
Bio-parent won't take them because it's not a scheduled visit.Comment
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Yup. It's frustrating when I'm working 50+ hours per week and barely making ends meet and they're working the system, using my taxes.
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I only see one perceived flaw in your theory. I'll take that and raise you a:
"Having children is a huge hunk of family income.
If people stopped feeling entitled to money for breeding, maybe there would be no need for childcare subsidy. "
I love a good debate. happyface Yes, I know $hit happens, that is the REAL reason for subsidy. :hug: This is in hopes of good fun and honest discussion.
I also saw a TON of under the table work and drug money in my days in the low income area we previously lived in. ALL subsidy, all better off than dh and I working our butts off.
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I don't deal with subsidies but I wonder every day how people afford the crap they have! Boggles my mind.Comment
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When my dh family came here to visit for the first time (they are from a drug infested state where the majority are drawing SSI but live in and drive more expensive things than we do) they went back and told the we lived in a mansion and were RICH! Made me angry because we work hard for what we have and I don't consider my home a mansion by no means but IT IS MINE and I obtained it legally. They draw from every form of government assistance possible. Just not fair!
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