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  • Unregistered

    #16
    Originally posted by MunchkinWrangler
    This! It is not your fault in any way that you cannot settle an excessively crying baby. The fact that she was irritated with you speaks volumes to me that she is believing that is your fault.

    In no way should you feel like the care you are giving the child is not adequate. This is not normal behavior and definitely tells me that the parents did not and are not properly preparing their infant for daycare.

    All the PP's are right and have a ton of experience with this issue. Although I have not been in the profession for as long, it took me taking other infants as well as my own experience with family and my own child to know that this is not normal behavior for an infant.

    The fact that the only way the child is soothed is by holding or coddling will not work in a group environment, no matter how small. I don't think it has to do with the feeding, just the fact that you are unable to replicate what is happening at home. This is classic behavior of a child who is held all day long.
    Thank you so much for saying this, I am doing my best and it's not my fault he is so miserable and cries excessively. They do hold him a lot and someone is always entering him when he's not being held at their house. I do my best to play, entertain, and hold him but I can't always be just focusing on him I have to divide my time between the two kiddos. It's not fair to the child, my other dcb, and myself that all he does is cry. I know it's starting to stress my other little guy out and I don't like that. I do take some blame, I thought since I was doing this for friends they would be more respectful of me and our relationship but I was wrong. I need to put out some clear cut boundaries so this ends. I'm going to give them this week and if no improvement I'm going to give them notice that I will no longer be able to care for him.
    Last edited by Blackcat31; 10-01-2016, 04:50 PM.

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    • JackandJill
      Daycare.com Member
      • Mar 2016
      • 416

      #17
      The only good thing in this situation is that you will know if the parents are being honest about changes at home or not. Like on pp said, after having a serious talk with parents she saw a drastic improvement.

      Talk with them, give them a deadline (and stick to it). Baby will either improve or won't. It takes the ball out of your court and puts it into theirs.

      When you talk with them, let them know exactly what you can and can not do in group care. And then let them know exactly what you need them to do at home (putting little one down, independent play, similar schedule etc.) to help her adjust.

      Daycare is a team effort to make the child's day easier. So many people think children should just be able to adjust to 9-10 hours of care in a completely different environment, which is ludicrous! The parents need to make sure that they have prepare their children as much as possible for group care in order for it to work!

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      • Nurse Jackie
        new provider
        • Mar 2015
        • 261

        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered
        Good advice! I am going to see how this week goes and talk to them but I don't think things will change on their end. I have tried to talk with them and the more I do the more they expect. She has a different person picking him up everyday and they are always on the go. He does well outside in a stroller but I can't have a stroller in the house with a 1year old and I also shouldn't have to be outside or walking him in the stroller all day. I have an infant carrier that they gave me which helps the crying but doesn't solve the problem pof me holding him all day and makes the problem worse. According to parents all the crying is attributed to teething and just being fussy.
        I personally do not practice wearing a baby around the house because like you said that's not helping the situation. If mom doesn't get on board all she's doing is hurting herself because she's gonna have to find new care that can tolerate a crying baby all day. Good luck I hope things work out in your favor.

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        • Play Care
          Daycare.com Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 6642

          #19
          Originally posted by Nurse Jackie
          I personally do not practice wearing a baby around the house because like you said that's not helping the situation. If mom doesn't get on board all she's doing is hurting herself because she's gonna have to find new care that can tolerate a crying baby all day. Good luck I hope things work out in your favor.

          I feel that baby wearing is just another type of "container." At 4 months old, most of baby's time should be on the floor working on skills. Not being contained in slings, wraps, bouncer seats, swings, car seats, etc etc etc.
          On a side note, while I do have some "containers" I'm finding the less I use them, the more content and happy the babies in my care are, the better they are able to roll, sit up, crawl - you know, all the things babies are *supposed* to be doing

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          • MunchkinWrangler
            New Daycare.com Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 777

            #20
            Originally posted by Play Care

            I feel that baby wearing is just another type of "container." At 4 months old, most of baby's time should be on the floor working on skills. Not being contained in slings, wraps, bouncer seats, swings, car seats, etc etc etc.
            On a side note, while I do have some "containers" I'm finding the less I use them, the more content and happy the babies in my care are, the better they are able to roll, sit up, crawl - you know, all the things babies are *supposed* to be doing
            Absolutely agree. I have a 7 mos old and this time around I have only used a bouncy seat, when he was smaller, otherwise no containers this time. He is almost crawling. I rarely used them with my ds, only when I needed him to stay in one place for safety and he was scooting around by 7 months also.

            It's funny the shift in parenting that feels that a baby needs to be held and snuggled all day. Yes, cuddles are good but not at the detriment of gaining milestones.

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            • Heart12
              Daycare.com Member
              • Jul 2016
              • 206

              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered
              I need help! I run a small in home day care(I have a 4mo old and 16 mo old and do after school care). I have been watching the 16 month old since he was 8 wks and no issues. I am friends with the parents of all of my littles which makes it more difficult when a problem arises. I have a 4 month old little guy and he screams on and off all day. He screamed for about 5 hours off and on yesterday(usually 5 hours cryingout of the 10 hrs I care for him daily) and I was holding him the rest of the time. He screamed for over an hour straight today. I check diaper, make sure he's not hungry, check to see if he's too hot or cold, check temp, etc I text the parents and they said if he doesn't have a fever he might be teething but it's been going on since he started with me. I'm very patient but I'm getting overwhelmed. How do I deal with it and make the parents understand that his crying is over helming and affects everyone in the house. I also can't be holding him constantly either. . I kind of get the "he's a baby he's going to cry deal with it attitude" or the being annoyed when I text them. Am I being unreasonable? Is 5 out 10 hours of crying normal? Thanks for any advice or help!
              :hug: Not normal. Ive been posting on here for the past week or so about the exact same issue with the 4mo in my care. Its been 5wks & nothing has changed, so today I had the talk with Mom about finding other care. Its rough. Sorry you are dealing with this! :hug:

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              • Unregistered

                #22
                I have a little one this age also and he's part time, three days a week. The other days are with grandparents or mom and he cries a lot too. Not 5hrs or anything, but 20 min after he gets here until I give him a bottle and he falls asleep and usually every time I lay him on the floor, he's mad within 5 min. At home, he has all the things to sit in and if not, grandpa holds him to watch tv and grandma has said mom holds him constantly from the time she gets home.

                This mom has made a lot of comments about not wanting him to grow up too fast....so he gets held or sits in his many things he has to sit in and he isn't on the floor much at home. That makes it really tough to entertain him with floor toys here...so he cries. Add to that the joys of part time babies and it's tough going some days.

                I think these moms now have too much info to read on the internet and want to keep them little forever so they hold them and buy all sorts of stuff for them that they don't need...and don't realize the precedents they are setting already.

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                • Blackcat31
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 36124

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered
                  I have a little one this age also and he's part time, three days a week. The other days are with grandparents or mom and he cries a lot too. Not 5hrs or anything, but 20 min after he gets here until I give him a bottle and he falls asleep and usually every time I lay him on the floor, he's mad within 5 min. At home, he has all the things to sit in and if not, grandpa holds him to watch tv and grandma has said mom holds him constantly from the time she gets home.

                  This mom has made a lot of comments about not wanting him to grow up too fast....so he gets held or sits in his many things he has to sit in and he isn't on the floor much at home. That makes it really tough to entertain him with floor toys here...so he cries. Add to that the joys of part time babies and it's tough going some days.

                  I think these moms now have too much info to read on the internet and want to keep them little forever so they hold them and buy all sorts of stuff for them that they don't need...and don't realize the precedents they are setting already.
                  Besides buying all the contraptions to keep them entertained, it saddens me that more parents aren't aware that belly time (or floor time) is DIRECTLY related to certain cognitive skills and lack of floor/belly time will impact the development of these neurological connections for life.

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                  • Heart12
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 206

                    #24
                    Originally posted by unregistered
                    i think these moms now have too much info to read on the internet and want to keep them little forever so they hold them and buy all sorts of stuff for them that they don't need...and don't realize the precedents they are setting already.
                    this.

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                    • Unregistered

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Nurse Jackie
                      I personally do not practice wearing a baby around the house because like you said that's not helping the situation. If mom doesn't get on board all she's doing is hurting herself because she's gonna have to find new care that can tolerate a crying baby all day. Good luck I hope things work out in your favor.
                      Thank you! I agree!

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                      • Unregistered

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Play Care

                        I feel that baby wearing is just another type of "container." At 4 months old, most of baby's time should be on the floor working on skills. Not being contained in slings, wraps, bouncer seats, swings, car seats, etc etc etc.
                        On a side note, while I do have some "containers" I'm finding the less I use them, the more content and happy the babies in my care are, the better they are able to roll, sit up, crawl - you know, all the things babies are *supposed* to be doing
                        I totally agree!!

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                        • Unregistered

                          #27
                          Originally posted by MunchkinWrangler
                          Absolutely agree. I have a 7 mos old and this time around I have only used a bouncy seat, when he was smaller, otherwise no containers this time. He is almost crawling. I rarely used them with my ds, only when I needed him to stay in one place for safety and he was scooting around by 7 months also.

                          It's funny the shift in parenting that feels that a baby needs to be held and snuggled all day. Yes, cuddles are good but not at the detriment of gaining milestones.
                          Preach!!! 🙌

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                          • Unregistered

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered
                            I have a little one this age also and he's part time, three days a week. The other days are with grandparents or mom and he cries a lot too. Not 5hrs or anything, but 20 min after he gets here until I give him a bottle and he falls asleep and usually every time I lay him on the floor, he's mad within 5 min. At home, he has all the things to sit in and if not, grandpa holds him to watch tv and grandma has said mom holds him constantly from the time she gets home.

                            This mom has made a lot of comments about not wanting him to grow up too fast....so he gets held or sits in his many things he has to sit in and he isn't on the floor much at home. That makes it really tough to entertain him with floor toys here...so he cries. Add to that the joys of part time babies and it's tough going some days.

                            I think these moms now have too much info to read on the internet and want to keep them little forever so they hold them and buy all sorts of stuff for them that they don't need...and don't realize the precedents they are setting already.
                            So agree with this! So frustrating!

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                            • Unregistered

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Blackcat31
                              Besides buying all the contraptions to keep them entertained, it saddens me that more parents aren't aware that belly time (or floor time) is DIRECTLY related to certain cognitive skills and lack of floor/belly time will impact the development of these neurological connections for life.
                              I so agree with this! I am close with this lil guys parents and we are neighbors and I saw him over the weekend with his Dad and he was literally in the stroller for 4 hours outside or was being held or entertained by someone else. He made the comment he doesn't fuss for me...I was like well I can't be outside for 4 hours a day. It's great you can calm him like this but not an option when he is with me. 😳😖

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