Child Telling Outrageous Lies...

[Ariana]

I have decided to term effective immediately.

The child wont back down. The mother has confirmed via text and email that she knows he is lying. He is acting quite smug as he sits smiling at me telling me (without prompting) that his mother thinks I am lying and (dck's he is accusing) will be in so much trouble. Not to mention the steps I had to take to ensure the safety of the other children in my program are well beyond what I am willing to do long term. I will NEVER again trust this child.

Ok this sounds like he is lying! Yikes. Well glad you trusted your gut and did the right thing

[sharlan]

I have decided to term effective immediately.

The child wont back down. The mother has confirmed via text and email that she knows he is lying. He is acting quite smug as he sits smiling at me telling me (without prompting) that his mother thinks I am lying and (dck's he is accusing) will be in so much trouble. Not to mention the steps I had to take to ensure the safety of the other children in my program are well beyond what I am willing to do long term. I will NEVER again trust this child.

My heart goes out to you. IMHO, terming is the only thing you can do. DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT, and DOCUMENT some more. Print out every single bit of written contact you have had with mom.

[Play Care]

Ugh! Has licensing been called?

[daycarediva]

Yes licensing is aware. I emailed her an update this morning on my decision to term.

Here is my update so far:

Now that Mom and I know dcb is lying, Mom is dragging her heels on a course of action. She said she does not have time to speak to dcd about this until the weekend!

Dcb admitted to me that he lied- he initially wanted to get other SA dcb in trouble because he is jealous, essentially. This dcb was held back from K. Sa DCB is the same age and was not. He has more priviledges (eg. outside time with the big kids, movies after school on occasion, staying up for rest time).

On Friday when dcb made the accusation, he said he was really angry at SA dcb because he got to bring his DVD player. The big kids (my own SA, SA DCB) even included the little kids who asked- dcg/3 and this dcb. They were all working together to make a tent but THIS dcb kept sabotaging it so I said he could no longer play with them. He was angry, and envious, and he wanted to get SA dcb in trouble.

He does not like dcg/3 at ALL and said if he told she said that she would get in trouble, too.

I asked where he heard these things- his 7yo cousin says them. What happens when cousin says them? He is in big trouble and has to sit in the living room alone and can't pick the movies or play with any toys (they BOTH go to their grandparents house for most of the weekend, every weekend).

I sent that info to his mother-no response. Term papers printed for her to sign (also acknowledging refund). Refund check written (ouch, they pay quarterly, FT x 7 weeks, 1 day/tomorrow)

D O N E.

I have never wanted to quit so badly in my LIFE.

[Rockgirl]

Yes licensing is aware. I emailed her an update this morning on my decision to term.

Here is my update so far:

Now that Mom and I know dcb is lying, Mom is dragging her heels on a course of action. She said she does not have time to speak to dcd about this until the weekend!

Dcb admitted to me that he lied- he initially wanted to get other SA dcb in trouble because he is jealous, essentially. This dcb was held back from K. Sa DCB is the same age and was not. He has more priviledges (eg. outside time with the big kids, movies after school on occasion, staying up for rest time).

On Friday when dcb made the accusation, he said he was really angry at SA dcb because he got to bring his DVD player. The big kids (my own SA, SA DCB) even included the little kids who asked- dcg/3 and this dcb. They were all working together to make a tent but THIS dcb kept sabotaging it so I said he could no longer play with them. He was angry, and envious, and he wanted to get SA dcb in trouble.

He does not like dcg/3 at ALL and said if he told she said that she would get in trouble, too.

I asked where he heard these things- his 7yo cousin says them. What happens when cousin says them? He is in big trouble and has to sit in the living room alone and can't pick the movies or play with any toys (they BOTH go to their grandparents house for most of the weekend, every weekend).

I sent that info to his mother-no response. Term papers printed for her to sign (also acknowledging refund). Refund check written (ouch, they pay quarterly, FT x 7 weeks, 1 day/tomorrow)

D O N E.

I have never wanted to quit so badly in my LIFE.

That doesn't affect your decision to term immediately, right?

[Artsandcrafts]

I hope everything goes well during and after termination. I would have termed intermediately as well, this is a huge risk I would not be willing to take.

[laundrymom]

Are you letting him stay the whole day? When does he go home?

[hope]

She doesn't have time to talk to her own child? It is Thursday. She doesn't have a few minutes in the next 48 hours to talk to her child? Sad.

[daycarediva]

I termed. Dcd showed up AFTER dcm said he was working doubles and she wouldnt have time to talk to him until the weekend.

I do NOT see DCD often. It was an obvious avoidance tactic. I had DCD sign the termination statement that dcb made false allegations and that he was refunded the unused portion of their daycare fees. He was LIVID. He is a HUGE 300lb/6ft6" guy. Dh was in my line of sight right around the corner, but dcd could not see him.

Dcb looked right at dcd and said "GUESS WHAT DADDY? I LIED!" and STARTED LAUGHING! Dcd said "That's okay buddy." and kept repeating "That's ok. I know. That's ok." all the way out the door.

WHAT THE ^%^(^(*(&^^$^%#^%$%&)!

It's done.

The child was COMPLETELY separated today. He played with NO ONE, he interacted with NO ONE, he ate and slept in different rooms (he was in my dining room, the rest of the kids were in the playroom) so he was still supervised.

It was too cold to go outside, so that solved that problem. Not at all going to work long term.

[Thriftylady]

WOW at dad's reaction! Sounds like even with giving a refund, you need to be rid of this family.

[Blackcat31]

I termed. Dcd showed up AFTER dcm said he was working doubles and she wouldnt have time to talk to him until the weekend.

I do NOT see DCD often. It was an obvious avoidance tactic. I had DCD sign the termination statement that dcb made false allegations and that he was refunded the unused portion of their daycare fees. He was LIVID. He is a HUGE 300lb/6ft6" guy. Dh was in my line of sight right around the corner, but dcd could not see him.

Dcb looked right at dcd and said "GUESS WHAT DADDY? I LIED!" and STARTED LAUGHING! Dcd said "That's okay buddy." and kept repeating "That's ok. I know. That's ok." all the way out the door.

WHAT THE ^%^(^(*(&^^$^%#^%$%&)!

It's done.

The child was COMPLETELY separated today. He played with NO ONE, he interacted with NO ONE, he ate and slept in different rooms (he was in my dining room, the rest of the kids were in the playroom) so he was still supervised.

It was too cold to go outside, so that solved that problem. Not at all going to work long term.

Im sorry it turned out this way Diva.

Im glad they're gone now though but I suppose you may still hear from mom? Either way, I am glad they are gone.

Like I said before you really handled this professionally and very well.

:hug: :hug:

[sharlan]

I agree with BC.

Yeah, it's ok to lie about something that could have cost someone their livelihood. Yeah, it's ok to lie about something that could have resulted in an unwarranted investigation. Yeah, it's ok to lie buddy, let's go get ice cream as a nice treat.

[mommyneedsadayoff]

I termed. Dcd showed up AFTER dcm said he was working doubles and she wouldnt have time to talk to him until the weekend.

I do NOT see DCD often. It was an obvious avoidance tactic. I had DCD sign the termination statement that dcb made false allegations and that he was refunded the unused portion of their daycare fees. He was LIVID. He is a HUGE 300lb/6ft6" guy. Dh was in my line of sight right around the corner, but dcd could not see him.

Dcb looked right at dcd and said "GUESS WHAT DADDY? I LIED!" and STARTED LAUGHING! Dcd said "That's okay buddy." and kept repeating "That's ok. I know. That's ok." all the way out the door.

WHAT THE ^%^(^(*(&^^$^%#^%$%&)!

It's done.

The child was COMPLETELY separated today. He played with NO ONE, he interacted with NO ONE, he ate and slept in different rooms (he was in my dining room, the rest of the kids were in the playroom) so he was still supervised.

It was too cold to go outside, so that solved that problem. Not at all going to work long term.

So sorry!:hug: It is for the best and I am glad you can breathe easier now that he is done! :hug:

[Josiegirl]

AYFKM??? Does dcd not have any clue???

[daycarediva]

My daycare facebook page is set as a private person- and daycare parents add me as a friend.

Last night, dcb went out to dinner and then to grandma's. The parents had plans to see a show in the city. They 1. rewarded him and 2. had time together, and therefor lied to ME about dcd's work schedule.

It's no wonder dcb thinks it's acceptable to lie. SO DONE.