State Liscensed Facility & Dr. Notes

[Unregistered]

They have also had her for over a year and have witnessed these reactions. She's never had breathing problems or anything to that affect at all. They do a meal plan but they don't send home anything communicating what they feed.

[Thriftylady]

They have also had her for over a year and have witnessed these reactions. She's never had breathing problems or anything to that affect at all. They do a meal plan but they don't send home anything communicating what they feed.

Having ANY reaction can be dangerous and may very well be why they are demanding all this. The reaction can be a rash or whatever one time, and be deadly the next, just that fast. Saying she's never had breathing problems or anything doesn't mean she won't have it next time. My Ex husband had had penicillin all his life. One day that gave it to him and he had a reaction just that fast. He can never have it again, the second reaction could kill him. Things change just that fast. We can not have children in care that have ANY reaction and not have the medical information of what exactly can cause it AND a treatment plan if the worst does happen.

[Unregistered]

OP ~ Let me ask you what is it [/B]exactly[B] that you want the child care provider/program to do?

Accept your word for it?
Accept a vague Dr's note?
Make exceptions to their illness/exclusionary policies?
Change their menu's for your child?


Maybe if you lay out exactly what it is you want, posters here will have some ideas or compromises you can use.

[Unregistered]

My dd had a skin test done at age 2 , they covered her whole back . A month later we went back and they did a second round of other things that again covered her back . So it can be done at a younger age than your child .
I was given a list of things and the reaction grade assigned to each allergen .

That is the type of testing they did on me as an adult. I inquired on them doing that for my daughter and the provider we see does not do that on children this young for whatever reason. I don't know why.

Again my problem isn't them needing this information. I'm fine with that. My problem is that they keep requesting all of it separately and it's driving me up the wall every time I have to spend all this time gathering it and the doctors office is even questioning why I'm making so many separate requests. They are pushing back on me as well.

If they would have given me an outline of all these things that they "require" you would think they would have known all of it up front enough to request that up front.... but the fact that they wait for me to bring one thing and then turn around and request yet another piece of information leads me to wonder.... each time I bring them something.... then it's something else they never previously mentioned. It is BEYOND irritating that I'm wasting so much time on something that could have been done in one phone call if they really required that information.

[mommyneedsadayoff]

That is the type of testing they did on me as an adult. I inquired on them doing that for my daughter and the provider we see does not do that on children this young for whatever reason. I don't know why.

Again my problem isn't them needing this information. I'm fine with that. My problem is that they keep requesting all of it separately and it's driving me up the wall every time I have to spend all this time gathering it and the doctors office is even questioning why I'm making so many separate requests. They are pushing back on me as well.

If they would have given me an outline of all these things that they "require" you would think they would have known all of it up front enough to request that up front.... but the fact that they wait for me to bring one thing and then turn around and request yet another piece of information leads me to wonder.... each time I bring them something.... then it's something else they never previously mentioned. It is BEYOND irritating that I'm wasting so much time on something that could have been done in one phone call if they really required that information.

I would go to your director and have a sit down. Tell her you spoke with the doc and he would like a list of everything they need in order to care for your daughter. Tell her you would like to know specifically what is needed and you will gather it all at once and then go from there. Let her know you are trying very hard to make sure they get the info they need, but it has been very difficult getting in contact witht he doctor and so it is best if you can gather it all at once, rather than having to continually go back. Then see what she says. If she cannot work with you, then there are few option for you in terms of remaining at that daycare.

[Unregistered]

The doctors note isn't really vague. It stated exactly what they requested. Look at the list I posted of their requests. They told me to have them list the restrictions. Common sense tells you that if you are allergic to apples you are probably allergic to apple juice. This is not rocket science.

So that wasn't specific enough. They requested me to get them yet another note for the juices.... I did that. Requested nothing else in addition...

THEN they turned around and asked me to get a note what to supplement.

I am not being ridiculous about the amount of time of mine they are wasting. That is my frustration.

If THEY know ahead what they are going to need and if THEYknow how specific that it needs to be then they need to give me something or tell me so that I'm not running around this circus having to figure it out and waste what could have been done in 1 call, on 5-6 calls.

I understand their needs.... They are not understanding mine.

They are disrespecting my time for things that they already knew they would need. AGAIN, I don't have a problem getting it. I have a problem with the fact that they could have communicated all of these things to begin with.

[laundrymom]

So you want them to assume that if your child is allergic to apples, she can't have apple juice. Correct?
Well, I'm allergic to FLAKE COCONUT. But not coconut oil.
So I completely understand what they are trying to prevent. For me, at 43 years old, I can have coconut oil, but let me bite a snoball or mounds bar and it's a trip to the ER and a week off work.

[Snowmom]

That is the type of testing they did on me as an adult. I inquired on them doing that for my daughter and the provider we see does not do that on children this young for whatever reason. I don't know why.

Again my problem isn't them needing this information. I'm fine with that. My problem is that they keep requesting all of it separately and it's driving me up the wall every time I have to spend all this time gathering it and the doctors office is even questioning why I'm making so many separate requests. They are pushing back on me as well.

If they would have given me an outline of all these things that they "require" you would think they would have known all of it up front enough to request that up front.... but the fact that they wait for me to bring one thing and then turn around and request yet another piece of information leads me to wonder.... each time I bring them something.... then it's something else they never previously mentioned. It is BEYOND irritating that I'm wasting so much time on something that could have been done in one phone call if they really required that information.

Maybe it's best if you could just nicely talk with them about your frustrations.
Other than that part, I guess I'm confused on what you need.
Since you've been a provider before, you should be aware that they have their own policies regarding allergies, illness, and exclusions.
It sounds like there are a lot of food items you are requiring them to exclude. I may be totally off base there, but from what you described, that would be a deal breaker for me as well. Not only would I worry about liability, but what about being on a food program- it sounds like your child would be on a completely different diet than the rest of the children while you determine what exactly she is allergic to.
That's a lot of extra paperwork and prep time.
You should always do what's best for your child and if you feel they won't make the proper choices for her, than it's definitely time to find alternate care (bus line convenience or not).
I truly don't mean to sound harsh there- that's just my outside point of view.

[Unregistered]

Personally, I would have the child care create a form themselves listing the info they require and written in whatever format they choose and/or is acceptable so that all you have to do is fill it out.

That's what the food program has. They have a form that asks all the questions.
Parents and Doctor's only have to answer questions.

[Annalee]

As a provider for 20 plus years, times have changed and I do require a doctor note for everything.....reason being I have had parents come in and say their child can't eat out of plastic plates and must eat out of glass plates I have had parents want to give their infants goats milk; I have been told their child can't/won't eat what is on my menu so I much fix something their kid "likes"...on and on and on.....It is my protection to enforce the dr. note issue....any parent can say anything and get by with it....If mcdonalds can get sued for hot coffee, I am sure there are loopholes for everything and that scares me. A doctor's note solidifies a parents' wishes.

By the way, miraculously, when I required a dr note, the child could eat out of plastic with no issues .....

[Cat Herder]

Families choose group care for the lower financial costs when compared to one parent staying home or hiring a private nanny.

There is a point where a family's needs outweigh what a group care provider can offer and still care for the group.

It is possible your provider has reached that point with your family and simply does not know how to handle it without further disruption or conflict.

Is that an aspect you have considered to this?

[Annalee]

Families choose group care for the lower financial costs when compared to one parent staying home or hiring a private nanny.

There is a point where a family's needs outweigh what a group care provider can offer and still care for the group.

It is possible your provider has reached that point with your family and simply does not know how to handle it without further disruption or conflict.

Is that an aspect you have considered to this?

Well worded! I thought this in the earlier posts but didn't know how to word it. You hit the nail on the head! happyface

[Unregistered]

So you want them to assume that if your child is allergic to apples, she can't have apple juice. Correct?
Well, I'm allergic to FLAKE COCONUT. But not coconut oil.
So I completely understand what they are trying to prevent. For me, at 43 years old, I can have coconut oil, but let me bite a snoball or mounds bar and it's a trip to the ER and a week off work.

Ok that's fair but if we are really talking about the child's wellbeing being the primary thing there.... a piece of paper appears to be the priority over something that is clearly seen as such a life and death issue here. If they weren't clear enough about what it needed to reference that is not something I can help. That's not the way I ran my daycare.

Yes, I was a daycare provider. I was not state licensed but I did use common sense. I did request notes and I had guidelines that I handed out when I needed specific things because if they are anything like me they will f

If a parent gave me a letter stating that their child was allergic to coconut I would not give them coconut milk oil or anything coconut related because I care more about the life of a child over what a piece of paper says. You may be willing to make that gamble but I am not. It honestly scares me that anyone would be willing to make that risk because of miscommunication to a parent on the daycare part for what an agency the parent has no involvement in requires from them.

I personally would not risk the child's life (if that was really the biggest concern) just because a piece of paper did not specify every food made with coconut. I would restrict it. So your answer is yes. I would 10,000% much rather that they assume.

It's disappointing that the health of the child appears to be secondary to the paperwork to be honest.

[Unregistered]

Yes, I was a daycare provider. I was not state licensed but I did use common sense. I did request notes and I had guidelines that I handed out when I needed specific things because if they are anything like me they will f

-they will forget everything I specifically need when they walk out the door.

[Blackcat31]

It's disappointing that the health of the child appears to be secondary to the paperwork to be honest.

Its not the health of the child that is the primary concern.
It's the liability for the provider.

• Provider liability
• Child's health concerns/needs
• Parental concerns/needs

That is the order of importance for me.