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  • Annalee
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 5864

    #31
    Originally posted by Blackcat31
    Its not the health of the child that is the primary concern.
    It's the liability for the provider.
    • Provider liability
    • Child's health concerns/needs
    • Parental concerns/needs


    That is the order of importance for me.

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    • Cat Herder
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 13744

      #32
      As a former childcare provider you should know the well being of the overall group, the happiness of the majority of clients and the stress level of the employees are the owners ultimate priority.

      There will be 4-10 other families with fewer needs waiting for your slot. You know that as a former provider.

      As a former provider you should know that they are asking for the same level of extra work from you that you are asking of them in the hopes you will see it is too much.

      What is your backup child care plan?
      - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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      • Unregistered

        #33
        Originally posted by Snowmom
        Maybe it's best if you could just nicely talk with them about your frustrations.
        Other than that part, I guess I'm confused on what you need.
        Since you've been a provider before, you should be aware that they have their own policies regarding allergies, illness, and exclusions.
        It sounds like there are a lot of food items you are requiring them to exclude. I may be totally off base there, but from what you described, that would be a deal breaker for me as well. Not only would I worry about liability, but what about being on a food program- it sounds like your child would be on a completely different diet than the rest of the children while you determine what exactly she is allergic to.
        That's a lot of extra paperwork and prep time.
        You should always do what's best for your child and if you feel they won't make the proper choices for her, than it's definitely time to find alternate care (bus line convenience or not).
        I truly don't mean to sound harsh there- that's just my outside point of view.
        Thank you,

        I'm writing them a note voicing what they requested and that I am willing to comply with their requests but suggested that they create a form and I am explaining why this has all been frustrating.

        I'm not trying to be irrational.

        I just think there is a huge disconnect that is not being seen here.

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        • Cat Herder
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 13744

          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered
          Thank you,

          but suggested that they create a form and I am explaining why this has all been frustrating.
          Here is a printable form. Available free online in many places. I can save them that effort. the pdf is attached as well.
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          - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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          • Thriftylady
            Daycare.com Member
            • Aug 2014
            • 5884

            #35
            You say you keep taking away foods, to find out and you also say you want them to quit asking for different things all the time. If you are constantly changing what kiddo is "allergic" to and adding or removing things, they have to then ask for more documentation for that. This isn't about keeping one parent happy as others have stated. We have to keep the state happy, the food program people happy, other parents happy and child safe. Like others have said, you may just need to get a nanny who can come to your home and feed what you have prepared ahead of time for the child.

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            • laundrymom
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 4177

              #36
              being blatantly honest here.
              If, after a year of care, I was still asking for documentation of food allergies, I'd be replacing your family with one who fit my program better. I would not be discriminating. I would simply be unwilling to keep asking for clarification. After repeated requests for an allergen list, family would be terminated for non compliance.
              No matter your explanation or reasoning, you (or the doctor you choose to see) has failed to give a complete list of allergens and because of such care would be terminated immediately.
              And that's got nothing to do with how loving or caring I am as a provider. It doesn't matter if I like a parent, a child, or the cute little outfits a child wears. A liability is a liability. And refusing to get a concrete list of allergens is one I'm unwilling to deal with.

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              • daycarediva
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 11698

                #37
                I would take it a step further. When a parent says ALLERGY to me, I need a drs note. No matter what. I will NOT provide care without one. Mom couldn't come in and say "don't give X strawberries today, we suspect an allergy." Mom would not be keeping X there if strawberries were on the menu.

                It's a matter of liability.

                I think you should have been upfront with the daycare and provided the original list from the allergist as well as a signed/dated form stating EACH allergy and it's noted reaction.

                At this point, I think a letter to them might get you a termination notice. I would offer to provide all meals and snacks until this is sorted out.

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                • spedmommy4
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Mar 2015
                  • 935

                  #38
                  Okay, I went back and read the entire thread. It sounds like the OP has repeatedly taken her daughter to an allergist and obtained doctors notes to satisfy a childcare requirement verifying an allergy.

                  As a parent of a child with food allergies and as a business owner, I can see both sides of this.

                  The business owner (in this case the center) needs to specify, exactly what information they need. They should be providing this parent with a specific form. In one post she states that they even demanded a note saying the doctor needs to determine what can be substituted for Apple juice. :confused: Seriously??? Even the food program only asks the doctor to sign off on milk substitutes. To answer the OP's question though, they are an independent business and can ask for any allergy verification they want. As a parent, I would put the kabosh on it at this point and find another center if they can't be reasoned with.

                  My daughter had food allergies early in life and the allergist told us that the earlier a child has allergy testing, the less reliable it is. He also said that children can outgrow food allergies they develop during their early childhood years. This was the case with my little girl. She had a severe allergy to milk and soy and now has no allergies.

                  During those early years we were constantly having to get doctors notes, and it was no easier back then. Specialists are notoriously difficult to get in touch with and get signatures from. I agree with the OP; tell parents what you want so they can get the signature the first time around.

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                  • Blackcat31
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 36124

                    #39
                    Just a random thought here but maybe the child care is purposely making it difficult hoping the family terminates care so that they (the child care) won't have to.

                    Not saying that is the case, but maybe the child has behavior issues or the child care wants to take a different family or not deal with the allergies at all or the parent or who knows.... but it does sound like if the parent has repeatedly done what the child care is asking only to be faced with additional requests, then I'd start wondering what else might truly be going on....

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                    • spedmommy4
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 935

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Blackcat31
                      Just a random thought here but maybe the child care is purposely making it difficult hoping the family terminates care so that they (the child care) won't have to.

                      Not saying that is the case, but maybe the child has behavior issues or the child care wants to take a different family or not deal with the allergies at all or the parent or who knows.... but it does sound like if the parent has repeatedly done what the child care is asking only to be faced with additional requests, then I'd start wondering what else might truly be going on....
                      That crossed my mind as well. That seems like a lot of trouble to go through just to avoid a difficult conversation but you never know . . .

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                      • nannyde
                        All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 7320

                        #41
                        They are over it. They want you to take your child elsewhere.

                        You can force them to keep her and they can force you to comply to their paperwork.

                        Time to move on.
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