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[momofboys]

Yes, you could absolutely get a licensing visit. Protocol for allergen exposure is notify the parents, watch for symptoms, administer the child's prescribed epipin if the child has a severe allergic reaction, and call ems. I'm guessing the allergy falls in the mild-moderate range since the child did not suffer a reaction. If she was going to have a reaction, she would have within the first 30 minutes.

Not necessarily. I've heard many times it can sometimes be mild & then after more exposures the next reaction could be anaphylactic. Scary stuff!

[momofboys]

I don't think a parent would put their kid through deprivation of not being able to have what their peers can have, the exhaustion of reading every label or the expense of one of these dietary restrictions on their budget just to be "trendy". If so, then that is just cruel on the parents' part. As a diagnosed celiac, it really bothers me when people assume diet "trends" in this nature.

As a mom of a child with a nut allergy ITA with this. I would never subject my child to having to avoid food, or make him carry an epi-pen everywhere, or be ultra cautious about every bite he consumes just to be trendy. There is a lot of misunderstanding & misinformation regarding food allergies.

[Play Care]

As a mom of a child with a nut allergy ITA with this. I would never subject my child to having to avoid food, or make him carry an epi-pen everywhere, or be ultra cautious about every bite he consumes just to be trendy. There is a lot of misunderstanding & misinformation regarding food allergies.

Unfortunately there are some parents who for whatever reasons, claim allergies or sensitives to certain foods. Maybe it's for attention, maybe it because they don't want their child to have that food and think by claiming allergy day care will be more receptive. I dunno. My bff's son has a peanut allergy, when he was diagnosed (over 18 years ago now ) there was hardly any of the awareness there is today. She pioneered the peanut free program at their public school lovethis

It ticks me off when parents use allergies as an excuse because it makes people question the validity of allergies (we already see some of that now with people complaing about peanut free flights or schools, etc) My friends son could die if exposed and I doubt it take his mother 90 minutes to pick him up after possible exposure.
If I were the OP I would be terming this parent.

[Blackcat31]

I don't think a parent would put their kid through deprivation of not being able to have what their peers can have, the exhaustion of reading every label or the expense of one of these dietary restrictions on their budget just to be "trendy". If so, then that is just cruel on the parents' part. As a diagnosed celiac, it really bothers me when people assume diet "trends" in this nature.

Unfortunately there are some parents who for whatever reasons, claim allergies or sensitives to certain foods. Maybe it's for attention, maybe it because they don't want their child to have that food and think by claiming allergy day care will be more receptive. I dunno. My bff's son has a peanut allergy, when he was diagnosed (over 18 years ago now ) there was hardly any of the awareness there is today. She pioneered the peanut free program at their public school lovethis

It ticks me off when parents use allergies as an excuse because it makes people question the validity of allergies (we already see some of that now with people complaing about peanut free flights or schools, etc) My friends son could die if exposed and I doubt it take his mother 90 minutes to pick him up after possible exposure.
If I were the OP I would be terming this parent.

Yes, there are parents that claim things are true in regards to their child that are not.

Most times its the provider they expect to do the hard work or reading labels, preparing separate meals, etc etc.... it's not usually something they will go to extremes to do at home.

Its also a very common way for parents to get "special" attention for their child in group care. NannyDe has a whole section about this type of parent in her book

[daycare]

??? okay, I'm confused now..... :confused:

I am not arguing or making a plea for or against cow's milk...

In my original post, I was just pointing out that a program that participates with the USDA CACFP must follow their rules for substituting items in place of cow's milk and that almond milk was not considered by the USDA CACFP as an equivalent substitute.


fwiw ~ I don't drink milk myself (not for any particular reason) but water is pretty much the only liquid I consume.

that makes two of us I am super confused too. But that's not anything new for me, I am always confused... I think i walk around with my finger on my chin saying hmmmm about a million times a day...

Yes, you are right almond milk is not approved because it is not high enough in protein, I belive that it only has like 1-2 grams of protein in it.

Good for you that you are not part of the millk cult..

[MrsSteinel'sHouse]

Are you on a food program?

IIRC, almond milk can not be substituted for cow's milk.
You can substitute with soy milk without a Dr's statement.

If you are on a food program, the Dr needs to list a substitute that meets the same dietary equivalent to cow's milk and like I said I don't "think" almond milk is acceptable.

I believe rice milk is acceptable.

[daycarediva]

We're not assuming here though. We've had it happen to us, may of us and many times. I have had different parents tell me that their children were allergic to milk, gluten, peanuts and meat. Usually it's parents that prefer a certain type of diet and want me to continue it in my daycare ... which I don't do and clearly say this in my polices. For these four families they all claimed that their child was allergic so when I asked them for a DR's note and a form filled out by the child's Dr. they either don't ever furnish one or then they say that there isn't actually an official diagnosis but they don't want me giving these to their child.

I've also recently had a parent tell me that their child was allergic to vaccines in order to prevent having to supply me with vaccination records but when I tried to hand her the form that needed to be filled out by her child's Dr. for vaccination exemption she explained that she just didn't believe in vaccinating her child ... okay that's fine, but I still need that form to be filled out by the Dr. It's a part of my licensing requirements.

There's isn't an assumption, it really does happen.

Yup. As soon as I ask for documentation, it becomes a 'lifestyle' choice, not an actual allergy. Completely undermines what people with food allergies deal with.

What?!
I would TERM.
This mom has LIED to you. She YELLED at you over her LIE.
In addition, she's claiming allergy but you don't have any state required paperwork on it?!
The kids sound like handfuls (no child should be touching another child's food, even if they are siblings and certainly shouldn't be putting food in another child's mouth - choking hazard) and I can imagine the apples didn't fall far from the tree.

YUP! After she was caught in her lie, I would have termed. NO WAY.

None of this makes sense. You need to REQUIRE doctor's notes for both kids before they return.

I can't imagine a parent of a peanut Allergy kid giving peanut butter to the sibling. Why even have that in your home?

I think she is lying about both diagnoses.

[auntymimi]

Yes, this does happen. The DCM I just termed told me a few months ago that she didn't want DCG to have goldfish crackers (I serve them for snack from time to time), when I asked her why she said "I just don't feel she is ready for them". The next sentence was "Oh and she drinks kool aid now". I told her I didn't serve it and she got mad and said "well what if it is the sugar free kind?". I told her no because it isn't a need for her diet and she asked "can you do it just for her?". Nope. A LOT of parents just want special. But ask them to pay for it or prove they need it and suddenly the don't need it anymore.

ETA: many of these parents won't read every label and most of them won't pay for the diet restriction foods, but they want us to do it. IF we do it, then we start hearing that the kids had a happy meal from McDonalds last night, and pizza hut the night before that at home. They want us to feed "special" so they feel better about not feeding well at home.

This has happened to me as well. I had a child on a low sodium diet, which is how we tend to eat anyway, but mom was adamant about knowing what she ate and the milligrams of sodium she ingested in my care. Imagine my surprise when she showed up with leftover nachos and cheese for lunch and a coke.

[LittleTikes]

This has happened to me as well. I had a child on a low sodium diet, which is how we tend to eat anyway, but mom was adamant about knowing what she ate and the milligrams of sodium she ingested in my care. Imagine my surprise when she showed up with leftover nachos and cheese for lunch and a coke.

We were told in my four-year-old classroom that dcb was "allergic" to things that he just didn't like to eat. He happily explained to us all the ways and forms that he would eat these foods at home. When pressed for the needed documentation, of course dcm had none to give.

[Blackcat31]

I believe rice milk is acceptable.

According to this rice milk is not an acceptable substitute

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8_3z0c2eVI8TXNJWXZ6UkVrWGM/view?usp=sharing

[Blackcat31]

California has a great link that addresses milk substitutes and other info about milk and what can and cant be served to whom in regards to the food program.

http://www.cde.ca.gov/ls/nu/cc/mbusdacacfp202011.asp

[CraftyMom]

As a mom of a child with a nut allergy ITA with this. I would never subject my child to having to avoid food, or make him carry an epi-pen everywhere, or be ultra cautious about every bite he consumes just to be trendy. There is a lot of misunderstanding & misinformation regarding food allergies.

It sounds like this isn't the case here though, but I get what you are saying.

This mom isn't at all vigilant if she is sending her other child with pb&j for lunch and does not supply an epi pen, treatment plan or even a diagnosis

[crazydaycarelady]

This mom is totally blowing smoke. I had a child with a real peanut allergy and if he ingested peanuts (which I witnessed once) he INSTANTLY had a reaction, his throat began to swell, and he would vomited. He also had epi pen. An hour and a half with no reaction = no allergy.

[kitykids3]

I agree, I don't believe there was an actual allergy, esp giving the sibling pb.

I don't know if this is true, but if she never provided some documentation of some kind, from doc, something, I don't see how she could really hold you accountable. There would be no proof that you knew about it since she didn't provide any dx, plan, doc note, epipen, anything.

I would make her bring documentation the very next day she comes or she can be suspended or termed.

[lblanke]

I would not accept a child with a food allergy with no epi pen and no emergency action plan. The whole story doesn't make any sense. Most parents of young children with peanut allergies do not have peanut butter in their homes, and it is hard to imagine why a parent whose child has an IgE mediated peanut allergy would send her other child with peanut butter. People who "pretend" their kids have allergies make it so much harder for others to understand and accommodate those with true allergies. Your mom does not behave in any way like any other allergy mom I have ever known.