Diner Lady Who Yelled At Parents of Screaming Kid

[mommyneedsadayoff]

http://www.pressherald.com/2015/07/19/owner-of-portland-diner-under-fire-for-yelling-at-screaming-child/

I kept reading about this and I am surprised by the controversy. From what I have read, the owner talked to the parents and they wouldn't leave, so after 40 minutes of the kid crying, the owner got mad and yelled (at the parents or kid, not quite sure). Now the parents and everyone are in an uproar. I don't get why. If your kid is flipping out at a restaurant or any public place, you should remove them from the situation if they will not calm down. Seems pretty standard to me. The couple seemed young to me, so maybe this another example of the entitlement parenting generation? Thoughts?

[Thriftylady]

Without being there it is hard to say. I certainly wouldn't yell at someone's child. But a crying child should be dealt with by the parents. So many parents do just let their kids do whatever they want these days, and I don't agree with that. So many people don't discipline these days.

[Rockgirl]

Forty minutes is beyond excessive. What about all the other customers....they shouldn't have to endure that. Not saying the owner should've yelled at the child (if it was the child who was yelled at), but I see how she could've become exasperated after 40 minutes of crying/screaming.

[Play Care]

Saw it on the news. The family should have been asked to leave and escorted out if they refused.

No one should be yelling at anyone.

[Unregistered]

From what I read it was an exaggeration and the witnesses said it was more like 4 minutes than 40 and that the owner yelled at the child not at the parents. I'm sure this story has nothing to do with the parents being young or entitled (what a rude comment!). Maybe it's because they were white. Or maybe cause they were Jewish. I mean you see how that sounds right? Well, same thing for young. There's no reason to say that a parent that 'looks young' is a crap parent. Anyway, no one knows unless we were there- and we weren't. So no point in guessing what happened.

[Rockgirl]

From what I read it was an exaggeration and the witnesses said it was more like 4 minutes than 40 and that the owner yelled at the child not at the parents. I'm sure this story has nothing to do with the parents being young or entitled (what a rude comment!). Maybe it's because they were white. Or maybe cause they were Jewish. I mean you see how that sounds right? Well, same thing for young. There's no reason to say that a parent that 'looks young' is a crap parent. Anyway, no one knows unless we were there- and we weren't. So no point in guessing what happened.

In all fairness, you're also guessing what happened, based on what you read online. So, 'no point in guessing what happened' applies to everyone.

[mommyneedsadayoff]

From what I read it was an exaggeration and the witnesses said it was more like 4 minutes than 40 and that the owner yelled at the child not at the parents. I'm sure this story has nothing to do with the parents being young or entitled (what a rude comment!). Maybe it's because they were white. Or maybe cause they were Jewish. I mean you see how that sounds right? Well, same thing for young. There's no reason to say that a parent that 'looks young' is a crap parent. Anyway, no one knows unless we were there- and we weren't. So no point in guessing what happened.

Do you have any links to what you have read? All the other stories say the parents were asked to handled their kid, they didn't, and then, after 40 miutes ( I read an hour in one story), the manager or owner got frustrated and yelled "this needs to stop now!" I also would never see how looking young compares to "maybe they were white or jewish, ect." I also never said a young parent is a crap parent. Oddly enough, there are several vitriolic comments from unregistered posters today...

[Rockgirl]

Do you have any links to what you have read? All the other stories say the parents were asked to handled their kid, they didn't, and then, after 40 miutes ( I read an hour in one story), the manager or owner got frustrated and yelled "this needs to stop now!" I also would never see how looking young compares to "maybe they were white or jewish, ect." I also never said a young parent is a crap parent. Oddly enough, there are several vitriolic comments from unregistered posters today...

[Unregistered]

Oh whoops. I thought entighteled parenting generation meant 'crap'. And I did mean what I said about no point in guessing- includes me. No point. We don't have details since we didn't witness it and there are conflicting reports. And, yes racism, classism, ageism... Those are the same. Idk why you don't know that. Lastly, I'd love to see what other drama some more unregistered are stirring up! Ha-ha has nothing to do with me I find ageism rude is all.

[daycare]

Oh whoops. I thought entighteled parenting generation meant 'crap'. And I did mean what I said about no point in guessing- includes me. No point. We don't have details since we didn't witness it and there are conflicting reports. And, yes racism, classism, ageism... Those are the same. Idk why you don't know that. Lastly, I'd love to see what other drama some more unregistered are stirring up! Ha-ha has nothing to do with me I find ageism rude is all.

well don't be so sweet now you might give me a cavity!

Hello all... Interesting post here.

I saw it as well and heard the parents phone interview. Lots of conflicting information. Looks like the owner cracked under pressure and handled it the wrong way. BUT what's done is done and now this restaurant owner has gotten her 20 seconds of fame and will cash in on it.

If you ask me, no one can ever win these days. Parents who try to parent their child in public get judged and those that don't get judged.

All I know is that times have changed.....

[Thriftylady]

well don't be so sweet now you might give me a cavity!

Hello all... Interesting post here.

I saw it as well and heard the parents phone interview. Lots of conflicting information. Looks like the owner cracked under pressure and handled it the wrong way. BUT what's done is done and now this restaurant owner has gotten her 20 seconds of fame and will cash in on it.

If you ask me, no one can ever win these days. Parents who try to parent their child in public get judged and those that don't get judged.

All I know is that times have changed.....

Yes they have. If I took to screaming in a public place my mom would have made sure to "give me something to scream about". Not that I am sure that would have solved the issue. Oh wait maybe I do, I would have been so afraid of that there wouldn't have been an issue .

[daycare]

Yes they have. If I took to screaming in a public place my mom would have made sure to "give me something to scream about". Not that I am sure that would have solved the issue. Oh wait maybe I do, I would have been so afraid of that there wouldn't have been an issue .

i saw some guy about 40 yrs old wearing a shirt that said

' I survived the wooden spoon era" I almost wet my pants laughing....funny then, not now.

[NoMoreJuice!]

First of all, Miss panties-in-a-bunch unregistered, sweeping generalizations such as "the younger generation now raising children are a bunch of narcissistic entitled brats" are wrong, and nobody said ALL young parents are to be labeled as such.

However, we just can't help but notice a slight trend.

The days of "I'll give you something to cry about" are over (aka wooden spoon...good one!), and now we have herds of parents who think their screaming little angel is more deserving of respect than a crowded restaurant filled with patrons who want to eat their damn pancakes in peace.

The manager is correct, she could have handled it better, but she's also correct not to offer an apology.

[mommyneedsadayoff]

Oh whoops. I thought entighteled parenting generation meant 'crap'. And I did mean what I said about no point in guessing- includes me. No point. We don't have details since we didn't witness it and there are conflicting reports. And, yes racism, classism, ageism... Those are the same. Idk why you don't know that. Lastly, I'd love to see what other drama some more unregistered are stirring up! Ha-ha has nothing to do with me I find ageism rude is all.

Did you read my post? There is a trend with young parents, which would include my generation, where the baby is the center of the universe and I call it entitled parenting, because they feel they are somehow special since they produced offspring. I don't care if it was 4 minutes or 40 minutes, if it was my kid, they would haven't been allowed to cry for even one minute. They would get a firm, "you need to calm down and eat or we will go to the car". And then you know what??? I would actually follow through! Shocking right?! The parents should have handled their kid from the beginning and if they had, the owner would never had gotten invovled and this wouldn't be a news story. Sadly, times have changed and we are now discussing who was right or wrong. The owner admitted to losing her temper and using bad judgment by yelling. I have not read anything where the parents have admitted to their own lack of action in parenting their kid. That is entitlement. They feel that since they are paying customers, they should be able to do whatever they want and everyone should just deal with it. The owner gave them a wake up call if you ask me and she had every right to as the "rights" of one set of customers do not trump the "rights" of the 70 other paying customers who would like to enjoy their meal in peace. Again, we see it all the time in daycare these days and it is mostly 20s and 30 somethings, so if you want to call it ageism...well, if the shoe fits!

[LindseyA]

Did you read my post? There is a trend with young parents, which would include my generation, where the baby is the center of the universe and I call it entitled parenting, because they feel they are somehow special since they produced offspring. I don't care if it was 4 minutes or 40 minutes, if it was my kid, they would haven't been allowed to cry for even one minute. They would get a firm, "you need to calm down and eat or we will go to the car". And then you know what??? I would actually follow through! Shocking right?! The parents should have handled their kid from the beginning and if they had, the owner would never had gotten invovled and this wouldn't be a news story. Sadly, times have changed and we are now discussing who was right or wrong. The owner admitted to losing her temper and using bad judgment by yelling. I have not read anything where the parents have admitted to their own lack of action in parenting their kid. That is entitlement. They feel that since they are paying customers, they should be able to do whatever they want and everyone should just deal with it. The owner gave them a wake up call if you ask me and she had every right to as the "rights" of one set of customers do not trump the "rights" of the 70 other paying customers who would like to enjoy their meal in peace. Again, we see it all the time in daycare these days and it is mostly 20s and 30 somethings, so if you want to call it ageism...well, if the shoe fits!

Thank you further explaining. I, for one, felt a twinge of offense by the "they seemed young... May be entitlement parenting generation" comment. Just being honest! I agree that there certainly is a change in parenting these days, but to make such a generalization rubbed me the wrong way. As does many many generalizations. But that's just me.