Reported Them

[Unregistered]

I keep seeing facebook post of women running unregistered daycare (which are illegal in this state). So I did not say anything to them and reported them.
Every time some one would say they were looking for a daycare, I would post my info and these ladies would post that they would do it. The parent would not respond to me but PM the others. So I got sick of it and copied all their info, reported them.

Then I got a call from some of their clients desperately searching for care because their daycare got shut down. I heard that they got big fines.

Now one of the ladies are back posting that they are looking to nanny.

People are feeling sorry for them, for breaking the LAW.

So..what you're really saying is you got jealous because the parents saw something they liked better, and you reported them because you have trouble getting clients. And you're pulling out the LAW card to cover the real motive.

[Thriftylady]

So..what you're really saying is you got jealous because the parents saw something they liked better, and you reported them because you have trouble getting clients. And you're pulling out the LAW card to cover the real motive.

I don't think that is fair. Those of us who operate legally (I am legally unlicensed but was licensed in another state before). We spend extra money making sure we follow all the laws and procedures. Then we get some people who want to cut corners at every turn, not doing things by the regulations and they undercut us because they are not doing what they should be doing. To do things the right way costs money. I for one get really irked when I see people on FB post they will do childcare for someone looking for pennies, because I know many of them are not doing things like many of us do. Feeding kids ramen noodles and putting them in front of a tv all day is NOT childcare.

[MarinaVanessa]

So..what you're really saying is you got jealous because the parents saw something they liked better, and you reported them because you have trouble getting clients. And you're pulling out the LAW card to cover the real motive.

No, she reported them because the law is the law. Everyone should follow the law. These ladies could very easily get licensed themselves and avoid the trouble they got themselves in. It amazes me that some parents want the "world" when it comes to daycare but are willing to sacrifice integrity and quality just to save a few dollars. Most often these illegally operating providers undercut themselves by offering extremely low prices and they either end up closing anyway because they can't afford to continue doing it or they have to cut corners somewhere (less activities, materials, lower quality meals etc). Often times parents don't even know what their regulations are and don't know that certain people need a license in order to operate, sometimes they don't care.

In any case, wrong is wrong no matter how you dice it.

[Leigh]

So..what you're really saying is you got jealous because the parents saw something they liked better, and you reported them because you have trouble getting clients. And you're pulling out the LAW card to cover the real motive.

In my state, we can watch up to 12 without registration, so there's not a lot to report on here, unless we report the few idiots who take 18-20 kids by themselves. Regardless of that number, though, someone who knowingly breaks the law to open a daycare likely isn't someone that should be watching kids. WHY would you break the law? Can't pass a background check? Unsafe environment? Planning on breaking other childcare regs? There is NO EXCUSE for someone to operate illegally. N.O.N.E.

[Unregistered]

That's scary 12 is a lot, so much for the law. Ten, twelve for one person is too much imo licensed or not.

As for licensed and unlicensed, both can be good or bad, and that horse has been beaten on this forum.

I do agree it seems like it would be easier to just get licensed, but then again most don't care if someone watches a few kids.

[Thriftylady]

That's scary 12 is a lot, so much for the law. Ten, twelve for one person is too much imo licensed or not.

As for licensed and unlicensed, both can be good or bad, and that horse has been beaten on this forum.

I do agree it seems like it would be easier to just get licensed, but then again most don't care if someone watches a few kids.

That is a big part of the reason I am unlicensed. I can have six without one, up to ten with one. I was licensed for ten in KS, but I always felt it was to much for me. I can't say it is to many for everyone, some people may be able to handle it but I can't and provide the quality I want to provide.

[Unknown]

Thank you to all that defended me.

[Febby]

So..what you're really saying is you got jealous because the parents saw something they liked better, and you reported them because you have trouble getting clients. And you're pulling out the LAW card to cover the real motive.

Regardless of what the parents may or may not have liked better about the illegal provider, the law isn't optional. If you operate illegally, then you should realize that you could get caught.

[Leigh]

That's scary 12 is a lot, so much for the law. Ten, twelve for one person is too much imo licensed or not.

As for licensed and unlicensed, both can be good or bad, and that horse has been beaten on this forum.

I do agree it seems like it would be easier to just get licensed, but then again most don't care if someone watches a few kids.

It seems like a lot before you do it, but it's actually a little easier than 6, IMO. They are a LOT easier to entertain, and they actually require much less from me. The only thing that makes it harder is diapers and meals.

[Thriftylady]

It seems like a lot before you do it, but it's actually a little easier than 6, IMO. They are a LOT easier to entertain, and they actually require much less from me. The only thing that makes it harder is diapers and meals.

I have always felt like less is better because my ages have always been so mixed. If they were all the same age it might be easier .

[Thriftylady]

Thank you to all that defended me.

I have no issue with unlicensed providers, I am one.... As long as they are doing so legally. I will always defend someone on the right side of the law!

[unregistered]

When people run illegal childcare, they most likely are not paying taxes, plus a portion are on welfare, not all of them, but some do this. Thus this people undercut the cost of a legal daycare.

[Thriftylady]

When people run illegal childcare, they most likely are not paying taxes, plus a portion are on welfare, not all of them, but some do this. Thus this people undercut the cost of a legal daycare.

I hadn't thought of it that way. But I can see how someone on welfare could use it to their advantage.

[Sugar Magnolia]

In my state, we can watch up to 12 without registration, so there's not a lot to report on here, unless we report the few idiots who take 18-20 kids by themselves. Regardless of that number, though, someone who knowingly breaks the law to open a daycare likely isn't someone that should be watching kids. WHY would you break the law? Can't pass a background check? Unsafe environment? Planning on breaking other childcare regs? There is NO EXCUSE for someone to operate illegally. N.O.N.E.

Yes yes yes yes to all of that. NO excuse for illegal!
Good job, OP!!!!!!

[Blackcat31]

That's scary 12 is a lot, so much for the law. Ten, twelve for one person is too much imo licensed or not.

As for licensed and unlicensed, both can be good or bad, and that horse has been beaten on this forum.

I do agree it seems like it would be easier to just get licensed, but then again most don't care if someone watches a few kids.

I am licensed for 12. BY MYSELF.

My kids range in age from infant to age 5. None have actually attended Kindergarten.

Like someone else said, 12 is WAY easier than 6. I have had 10-12 kids by myself for over 2 decades without a ding on my record or reason to ever feel that I cannot manage 12 kids alone.

The key to anything is routine and consistency. I have clear rules, boundaries and expectations and my families all work WITH me not against me in guiding and disciplining their child(ren). ← That makes a huge difference too...

The days when I have less than 8 children are tough!