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[Blackcat31]

Actually when our state was coming out with QRIS and the whole technology thing came out we asked "why about naptime". We were told we need to watch them sleep.

...but so far, QRIS is voluntary.

It has nothing to do with state licensing regulations/laws.

Providers don't HAVE to participate in QRIS.

Thankfully, QRIS in my state isn't that rigid....if they were I would NOT be participating with it.

[Annalee]

...but so far, QRIS is voluntary.

It has nothing to do with state licensing regulations/laws.

Providers don't HAVE to participate in QRIS.

Thankfully, QRIS in my state isn't that rigid....if they were I would NOT be participating with it.

QRIS is mandated here as well. I have answered the phone before during my QRIS ASSESSMENT but I kept it brief. Many of QRIS guidelines are unrealistic. During my QRIS interview each year they will ask what I do during nap but I would never say I texted or was on the phone. :: However, licensing has been known to issue citations due to texting, but I wonder if the texting is going on continuously during their observation/visit ???? Like I stated earlier, the citations were made toward center employees.??

[KiddieCahoots]

:: Making everyone sit next to the bathroom and wait while Baby Joey gets his diaper changed is ridiculous and in some states could be considered "confinement" as I don't know many kids under age 5 that would enjoy sitting next to the bathroom and waiting multiple times a day. ::

If I had 5 kids in diapers and changed them 5 times a day that is 25 diaper changes and if each diaper change took say 5 minutes, then my kids would spend a total of 2 hours and 5 minutes "waiting".

Wouldn't you get dinged for this with the QRIS? I thought we weren't suppose to have children waiting for anything!?

Tricky catch 22 if you ask me.

I also take sate subsidy that are sometimes provided a bus for transportation. I am given a policy from the state to give to all parents, "Supervision Requirements While Accompanying a Child to and from a Vehicle", that allows me to leave the children unsupervised to get other children on or off a vehicle. Yet I can't go online about work realted issues while in the same room with children......go figure! ...::.....

[Country Kids]

...but so far, QRIS is voluntary.

It has nothing to do with state licensing regulations/laws.

Providers don't HAVE to participate in QRIS.

Thankfully, QRIS in my state isn't that rigid....if they were I would NOT be participating with it.

Ours will be mandatory sooner then later if you take state paid children. At the moment I don't but never sure about the future. I went from a full house the last 5 years to 3 children the last year. I've started a facebook, website and business cards. Nothing! So I'm either going to need to do something more drastic to get clients or start looking for a job in the outside world.

[Country Kids]

...but so far, QRIS is voluntary.

It has nothing to do with state licensing regulations/laws.

Providers don't HAVE to participate in QRIS.

Thankfully, QRIS in my state isn't that rigid....if they were I would NOT be participating with it.

Also, some of our rules are lining up with QRIS rules or vice versa. So for our state it does have things to due with licensing/laws.

[Blackcat31]

Ours will be mandatory sooner then later if you take state paid children. At the moment I don't but never sure about the future. I went from a full house the last 5 years to 3 children the last year. I've started a facebook, website and business cards. Nothing! So I'm either going to need to do something more drastic to get clients or start looking for a job in the outside world.

It will be for everyone.
I've been saying that to everyone here for a long time now.

Also, some of our rules are lining up with QRIS rules or vice versa. So for our state it does have things to due with licensing/laws.

Aligning with state laws/regulations is not really the same thing.
QRIS makes that very clear. QRIS follows state laws and may advocate or support certain regulations and regulation changes but they are not the law.

QRIS does not dictate rules/regulations or laws as "required" for child care licensing. Only for participation in QRIS.

ONLY the state can enforce or mandate a law and unless something is written in the state laws, it is nothing more than a suggestion when coming from a source other than your state statutes.

[Annalee]

It will be for everyone.
I've been saying that to everyone here for a long time now.



Aligning with state laws/regulations is not really the same thing.
QRIS makes that very clear. QRIS follows state laws and may advocate or support certain regulations and regulation changes but they are not the law.

QRIS does not dictate rules/regulations or laws as "required" for child care licensing. Only for participation in QRIS.

ONLY the state can enforce or mandate a law and unless something is written in the state laws, it is nothing more than a suggestion when coming from a source other than your state statutes.

In my state, the QRIS Assessment is mandated by law. All center/fcc must be assessed annually with the QRIS tool FCCERS-R. Providers may choose not participate but they have to go through the process due to the law. The N/P is placed online but when you click it it reveals the star information so what is the point of not participating???? Plus all components rely on the assessment score?? NOT FAIR but is the way it is here!

[Country Kids]

It will be for everyone.
I've been saying that to everyone here for a long time now.



Aligning with state laws/regulations is not really the same thing.
QRIS makes that very clear. QRIS follows state laws and may advocate or support certain regulations and regulation changes but they are not the law.

QRIS does not dictate rules/regulations or laws as "required" for child care licensing. Only for participation in QRIS.

ONLY the state can enforce or mandate a law and unless something is written in the state laws, it is nothing more than a suggestion when coming from a source other than your state statutes.

What I'm saying is some of the rules for QRIS are now becoming rules for childcare so yes they are alligning. To be a certified family childcare here, you have to have to have so much education/be on a certain step in our registry system. This aligns with our QRIS having a so much education/be on a certain step in our registry system. So they are now going hand in had with some things. I have noticed some of the rules for our QRIS is becoming rules for our childcare. The above is just one of them. So I see that if we aren't doing something for QRIS that we are suppose to be doing and it is a QRIS Rule and State rule either agency can report us to the other one.

[Annalee]

What I'm saying is some of the rules for QRIS are now becoming rules for childcare so yes they are alligning. To be a certified family childcare here, you have to have to have so much education/be on a certain step in our registry system. This aligns with our QRIS having a so much education/be on a certain step in our registry system. So they are now going hand in had with some things. I have noticed some of the rules for our QRIS is becoming rules for our childcare. The above is just one of them. So I see that if we aren't doing something for QRIS that we are suppose to be doing and it is a QRIS Rule and State rule either agency can report us to the other one.

What state are you in? If you do not want to post this....please pm me. Thanks!

[Blackcat31]

What I'm saying is some of the rules for QRIS are now becoming rules for childcare so yes they are alligning. To be a certified family childcare here, you have to have to have so much education/be on a certain step in our registry system. This aligns with our QRIS having a so much education/be on a certain step in our registry system. So they are now going hand in had with some things. I have noticed some of the rules for our QRIS is becoming rules for our childcare. The above is just one of them. So I see that if we aren't doing something for QRIS that we are suppose to be doing and it is a QRIS Rule and State rule either agency can report us to the other one.

Unless QRIS can cite you (as in a written citation that affects your ability to hold a license. or is a fineable offense) they are NOT the law.
Having to reporting to the legal agent is not the same thing.

We're mandated reporters too but we do not hold the power to actually charge a parent with something we report.

The food program is also required to report to my licensing agent but the food program is not the law (in regards to licensing).

"Aligning" is not the same thing as an agency that has the power to cite or fine you in the eyes of the law.

There is a huge difference between reporting to the authorizing agency and being the authority.

I think the confusing lies in WHAT agency actually has the LEGAL authority over you.

[Blackcat31]

Ours will be mandatory sooner then later if you take state paid children. At the moment I don't but never sure about the future. I went from a full house the last 5 years to 3 children the last year. I've started a facebook, website and business cards. Nothing! So I'm either going to need to do something more drastic to get clients or start looking for a job in the outside world.

What I'm saying is some of the rules for QRIS are now becoming rules for childcare so yes they are alligning. To be a certified family childcare here, you have to have to have so much education/be on a certain step in our registry system. This aligns with our QRIS having a so much education/be on a certain step in our registry system. So they are now going hand in had with some things. I have noticed some of the rules for our QRIS is becoming rules for our childcare. The above is just one of them. So I see that if we aren't doing something for QRIS that we are suppose to be doing and it is a QRIS Rule and State rule either agency can report us to the other one.

You said earlier that in order to take state assisted children, you must participate in QRIS. Are you saying in your state you can not be a child care provider at all...(uncertified or legally unlicensed or licensed exempt) unless you participate in QRIS and follow their rules?

Does QRIS have the power to take your license or certification away from you?

NOT the agency they (QRIS) reports to but QRIS itself...are they the ones that decide if you are certified or licensed as a child care provider?

[Annalee]

You said earlier that in order to take state assisted children, you must participate in QRIS. Are you saying in your state you can not be a child care provider at all...(uncertified or legally unlicensed or licensed exempt) unless you participate in QRIS and follow their rules?

Does QRIS have the power to take your license or certification away from you?

NOT the agency they (QRIS) reports to but QRIS itself...are they the ones that decide if you are certified or licensed as a child care provider?

Here they do! If a provider does NOT complete the QRIS report card, they lose their license.

[Blackcat31]

Here they do! If a provider does NOT complete the QRIS report card, they lose their license.

I've said it before and I'll say it again...your state is weird.

...and one of the ONLY ones that is that rigid.



.....yet.

[Country Kids]

You said earlier that in order to take state assisted children, you must participate in QRIS. Are you saying in your state you can not be a child care provider at all...(uncertified or legally unlicensed or licensed exempt) unless you participate in QRIS and follow their rules?

Does QRIS have the power to take your license or certification away from you?

NOT the agency they (QRIS) reports to but QRIS itself...are they the ones that decide if you are certified or licensed as a child care provider?

1. At this time it is all voluntary but they are trying to get as many STARed because it will roll out soon that if you don't have STARs you will not be able to have state paid children. You will still be a childcare just not take state paid children.

2. No, but they would have the power to take your STARs away. In the future if you relied on State Paid children, you wouldn't be able to have them if you had your STARs taken away and possibly lose your income.

3. QRIS doesn't report to anyone. They are their own system. No they don't decide if we receive our registration or certification. The Department of Education does which as you see, with the Department of Education as our head they will more then likely go hand in hand with QRIS.

[Country Kids]

I've said it before and I'll say it again...your state is weird.

...and one of the ONLY ones that is that rigid.



.....yet.

I almost didn't get my STARS because one of the pieces I didn't "word" correctly was how I potty train children! There were a couple other things that had crossed in the mail but if I hadn't got it because my wording wasn't correct I would have been fuming. I still can't figure out what they want on that piece.