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  • NightOwl
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 2722

    #91
    Originally posted by LysesKids
    I would be sunk... my only electronics are a phone & my computer which plays music all day; parents expect to be able to text me to check on their babes (all under 18 months).
    Me too. I text with the parents whenever needed, so it would be a hard adjustment to make for everyone.

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    • Onawhim
      Daycare.com Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 90

      #92
      Originally posted by Silly Songs
      As center employee I can tell you that we will be in major trouble if we are using our phones , even during nap !
      That makes sense for us . We are being paid by the center and have to abide by their rules . Their rules are usually set by licensing / state guidelines for centers . Yes , some co workers sneak to look at their phones . They do allow us to leave the room if we want to make a phone call , but someone else comes in our room to cover for us . ( if we aren't in ratio )
      As a center employee you also get breaks and lunches. As self employed we do not.

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      • Play Care
        Daycare.com Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 6642

        #93
        Originally posted by NessaRose
        Someone mentioned no electronics at all can be used in their state. What about the daily connect app? You have to have a device to use that, so is our banned? What about my Bluetooth speaker and cell phone that I use to play kids music from? What about a cd player? Is music banned because electronics are? I don't see how this could be legal.
        You can use electronics for business purposes, so that wouldn't be an issue.

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        • Margarete
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jun 2013
          • 290

          #94
          Qris

          The QRIS standards say you should NEVER be on the phone?? That would be against licensing rules. You are required to notify parents if a child becomes sick, so that they can be picked up within a certain time frame, and not have continued contact with other children. This is a very common situation. How do they expect you to notify parents, telepathy? put a letter in the mail box?

          What about an emergency... I'm sorry I can't call 911 I'm not allowed to use the phone while children are in my care.

          Do they also expect you to notify parents if a child who is supposed to show up does not, in case they were left in a car by a parent also?

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          • Country Kids
            Nature Lover
            • Mar 2011
            • 5051

            #95
            Originally posted by Margarete
            The QRIS standards say you should NEVER be on the phone?? That would be against licensing rules. You are required to notify parents if a child becomes sick, so that they can be picked up within a certain time frame, and not have continued contact with other children. This is a very common situation. How do they expect you to notify parents, telepathy? put a letter in the mail box?

            What about an emergency... I'm sorry I can't call 911 I'm not allowed to use the phone while children are in my care.

            Do they also expect you to notify parents if a child who is supposed to show up does not, in case they were left in a car by a parent also?

            You are not allowed to use any media for personal use.
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            • kitykids3
              Daycare.com Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 581

              #96
              Yeah, not going to happen. I would give up my license before they can tell me that I can't have some quiet time on my laptop while the kids all take their nap. Plus I use my phone for texting parents or sending them pics, etc. And I need to be able to use the phone to call and set up doctor appts. etc. during the day because they aren't open when I'm off work. They can't make that a law, not for how little we make and long 10 hour days with no breaks. Ridiculous.
              lovethis daymommy to 7 kiddos - 5 girls and 2 boys

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              • Annalee
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 5864

                #97
                Originally posted by kitykids3
                Yeah, not going to happen. I would give up my license before they can tell me that I can't have some quiet time on my laptop while the kids all take their nap. Plus I use my phone for texting parents or sending them pics, etc. And I need to be able to use the phone to call and set up doctor appts. etc. during the day because they aren't open when I'm off work. They can't make that a law, not for how little we make and long 10 hour days with no breaks. Ridiculous.
                I am not saying banning electronics will become law but I do feel licensing has to monitor it. That being said, as a provider, I am NOT going to text just anyone nor answer just any call if licensing or QRIS are in my home. I have answered the phone during an assessment but I kept it brief. I was NOT discounted nor was I turned in to licensing. I think all things are good with moderation. Now if something happened in my daycare that caused a negligence charge, I can see where licensing or whomever may track my electronic use to support their case for my negligence. BUT as I stated earlier, quality providers know their limits and home providers, in particular, are very aware of their surroundings. I am in one room.....I can keep tabs on many things during the day!

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                • Play Care
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 6642

                  #98
                  The regulations in my state (New York) make it clear they mean personal use media not business. And really, anyone with an ounce of brain can spin media use towards business purposes

                  But honestly, that's common sense. Of course they expect you to keep in touch with dcp's should the need arise. Of course you're expected to call emergency services should the need (God forbid) arise.

                  You're not going to be cited for texting a parent during the day about something regarding their child. Or updating forms, etc. or probably even being on some social media during the day/nap time (again, it's all in the spin)

                  You would be cited for texting your friends/candy crushing/ tweeting, etc while you're sitting in your yard ignoring the dck's and your licensor is standing there watching (and you have no idea because your face is buried in your phone.)
                  Or perhaps cited for watching inappropriate shows in view of the dck's because "it's nap time!" (here's a hint, if your dck's go home telling their parents all about the teacher making drugs in his garage or can tell you all about Game of Thrones because they watch it at your house, this means you )

                  Granted, I don't believe we needed new regulations to deal with these issues as we already have ones regarding appraise supervision and television viewing. They need to enforce what they have... but they don't call New York the "nanny state" without good reason

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                  • crazydaycarelady
                    Not really crazy
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 1457

                    #99
                    This presenter is another in a long line of people telling us how to do our job who have never done our job!


                    I do my menus, add pictures of the kids so the parents can see them, etc. during the day. That is a part of my job and I am not going to devote anymore time to it (by doing those chores at night) than I do already.

                    And I also in the camp of so what if a provider happened to post on Facebook during the day?
                    When I do post pictures of the kids or announcements on my fb page almost all of the dcparents have "liked" it while at work, before they come get their child that night.

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                    • daycarediva
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 11698

                      Here was the second regulation I posted re: electronics and social media.

                      the use of any type of device for social or entertainment purposes, listening to music on headphones, playing screen games, using the internet, or making personal calls by caregivers while supervising children is prohibited. Use of any device for brief and necessary communications or purposes directly related to the child care program, such as communication with parents or the Office and it's representatives is allowable.

                      -this includes rest time.
                      -this includes ANYTHING personal.

                      My registrar doesn't even agree with these, and wouldn't cite me if she saw me pick up a phone call from my kids school (what parent wouldn't?)

                      It is more to crack down on the providers with public facebook pages posting about facebook games ALL DAY. Providers talking on their phone to friends while doing childcare ALL DAY. Providers texting, playing screen games, on facebook, twitter, etc ALL DAY.

                      I answered an email from my sons teacher while the kids were eating breakfast. I was sitting next to them. Yes, it's a citable offense, but I would fight it, because it was BRIEF and NECESSARY.

                      The kids nap in my daycare room, and I bring my laptop in the room and sit facing all of them (screen faces away). My registrar has come in during nap, seen my headphones plugged in, this website and pinterest and my email up (I leave one earbud out) and not said a word.

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                      • Annalee
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 5864

                        Originally posted by daycarediva
                        Here was the second regulation I posted re: electronics and social media.

                        the use of any type of device for social or entertainment purposes, listening to music on headphones, playing screen games, using the internet, or making personal calls by caregivers while supervising children is prohibited. Use of any device for brief and necessary communications or purposes directly related to the child care program, such as communication with parents or the Office and it's representatives is allowable.

                        -this includes rest time.
                        -this includes ANYTHING personal.

                        My registrar doesn't even agree with these, and wouldn't cite me if she saw me pick up a phone call from my kids school (what parent wouldn't?)

                        It is more to crack down on the providers with public facebook pages posting about facebook games ALL DAY. Providers talking on their phone to friends while doing childcare ALL DAY. Providers texting, playing screen games, on facebook, twitter, etc ALL DAY.

                        I answered an email from my sons teacher while the kids were eating breakfast. I was sitting next to them. Yes, it's a citable offense, but I would fight it, because it was BRIEF and NECESSARY.

                        The kids nap in my daycare room, and I bring my laptop in the room and sit facing all of them (screen faces away). My registrar has come in during nap, seen my headphones plugged in, this website and pinterest and my email up (I leave one earbud out) and not said a word.
                        I agree that social media is playing a part in the rules/regs. A center employee here had put on FB how kids were xxxxx and she hated working with them. Some parent of the center turned her in and she lost her job. I think common sense is the key to this rule and I feel most licensors will know if we abuse electronics but they will respect that we have to use these devices occasionally just to run our business.

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                        • Baby Beluga
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Aug 2014
                          • 3891

                          Originally posted by Annalee
                          I agree that social media is playing a part in the rules/regs. A center employee here had put on FB how kids were xxxxx and she hated working with them. Some parent of the center turned her in and she lost her job. I think common sense is the key to this rule and I feel most licensors will know if we abuse electronics but they will respect that we have to use these devices occasionally just to run our business.
                          It truly has and many people don't know where to draw the line. I have a few previous co-workers who I am personal FB friends with. They work in centers and are constantly posting photos of the the children in their care on their personal FB page. As a parent I would go ballistic if I saw that.

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                          • Annalee
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 5864

                            Originally posted by Baby Beluga
                            It truly has and many people don't know where to draw the line. I have a few previous co-workers who I am personal FB friends with. They work in centers and are constantly posting photos of the the children in their care on their personal FB page. As a parent I would go ballistic if I saw that.
                            Just like with anything else...COMMON SENSE plays a role in this......but too many today have NO COMMON SENSE

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                            • Baby Beluga
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 3891

                              Originally posted by Annalee
                              Just like with anything else...COMMON SENSE plays a role in this......but too many today have NO COMMON SENSE

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                              • Play Care
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 6642

                                Originally posted by Annalee
                                Just like with anything else...COMMON SENSE plays a role in this......but too many today have NO COMMON SENSE
                                So true! It's not only providers who are getting into hot water over being online/social media.

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