Hmm...I Think I Smell a Lie (Vent)
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I posted for help but have not got a response...My situation is kind of like yours but, full of LIE and LIE..
Ive got a daycare client who has been with me for a few months. Dad has drifted in and out of work and from what I hear he is not working right now. The family was evicted from their home last week and now live with gma. I knew it was coming...nonpayment but I did not know when. This morning at drop off they wrote me a check knowing good and well they did not have any money in their account. I called mom and told her that the check was rejected and she needed to come pick up the child ASAP. She took everything out of his cubby too. I have been looking to get rid of this child due to behavior issues and afraid of him hurting other kids. Here lately he has been out of control. I sent an email stating that if payment is not paid by 6:00pm today (at closing) he is terminated due to my policy and contract. Of course, I know they are not going to pay. How long do you give your clients before you dismiss? I require payment in advance and I have a strict no pay no play policy...If she does not come up with the money at 6:00 and I do not let him reenter do they still owe the money for the week even though I dismissed? I am confused!!!
If you have a strong contract that states they have to give 2 weeks notice when leaving and payment is due regardless of attendance, then yes they owe you money. You may have to go to court to get it though, especially knowing the financial situation.
I would assume they are not coming back. You told mom they had until tonight to pay. Not paying is their choice not to return, however, if it were me they would still owe me the 2 weeks notice.
In this situation though, knowing they don't have the money, you might just drop it and be done, but it depends on how you feel about the whole thing. If you need the money, have no replacements for dck, you would probably win in court if it went that far. But if your just glad to see them go and can fill the spot easily, you might drop it- Flag
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Whatever, because she did bring $200 cash that morning, all in 20's, which was weird because she owed $160. Then today she brought 2 100's, and she owes $115 (or even only $75 with the extra $40). I'm not saying anything, and will just keep crediting their account. They are strange people...- Flag
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I learned to collect a 2-week notice period deposit up front. I have never had a DCF balk at this, as it is explained that it is not free money for me, just that the last two weeks with me-whenever that may be-are already paid for. I am also willing to set up payment schedules of $50 every two weeks until it's satisfied if the full amount is too steep. That way, if a situation like yours happens, you don't feel so financially bad about them leaving suddenly.
If I were in your shoes, I would just let them go, count my blessings, and be done with them. It sounds like they are such a mess that it would be a herculean feat to get a penny from them anyway, and cost you way more in time, stress, and legal costs than it would be worth.- Flag
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That happens a lot in this line of business. I have lost income in the past but was so happy that they left I hardly cared about the money.
I learned to collect a 2-week notice period deposit up front. I have never had a DCF balk at this, as it is explained that it is not free money for me, just that the last two weeks with me-whenever that may be-are already paid for. I am also willing to set up payment schedules of $50 every two weeks until it's satisfied if the full amount is too steep. That way, if a situation like yours happens, you don't feel so financially bad about them leaving suddenly.
If I were in your shoes, I would just let them go, count my blessings, and be done with them. It sounds like they are such a mess that it would be a herculean feat to get a penny from them anyway, and cost you way more in time, stress, and legal costs than it would be worth.- Flag
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How does the security deposit work? Is this a two week fee that they pay for the last two week of care? I think that would be a really good idea.- Flag
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I require cash ONLY after the first incident with a check.
However, if I have a self-admitted "non-rememberer" like your DCM has claimed to be, I require the family to submit a months worth of pre-written checks in the beginning of the month.
I keep these pre-written/pre-dated checks in child's file and take one on each scheduled pay day.
When there is only one check left, I remind the parent and require another envelope to be brought with another months worth of pre-dated/pre-written checks.
However, like previously stated, once one of the check bounces, then payment via checks is no longer an option.- Flag
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I get a deposit that's applied to the LAST week's tuition. I'd like to do 2 weeks, but that may be pushing it. This way if someone bails, I at least have that slight cushion. I don't think I'd ever be okay with working for no pay. At least this way I'm ahead something.- Flag
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This post has me giggling. I think I have about heard it all and then some. Sometimes I would love to say to the parents "Really? Do you think I have not heard this before?" Cause they seriously cannot think me THAT dumb. Bad checks, wrong name, wrong amount, post dated, wrong account, I forgot, etc etc etc
I love the "OH I left my checkbook on the counter. I will stop by and pick it up and pay you when I pick up"....then Gmom picks up.....then I get a message saying little Jonny is sick and will be out till Wed......... Seriously? Come on.
My thing is, would these parents be happy if they got paid whenever THEIR boss remembered? I doubt a "Oh you know what, I forgot about your check. I will have to bring it on Friday. But you will have to wait until Monday to cash it. Hope that isn't a problem" would go over well! So WHY do they feel it is ok to do it to the person that watches their most prized procession?
And that passive aggressive reminder that she WILL do it again would send me over the edge. I would give her a hefty fee and a note saying again=cash. Then I would up her late cash payment fee each time it is 'forgotten'. She will either leave, remember or pay for your next vacation in fees!
:hug: Hang in there.- Flag
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AMEN to that!!
This post has me giggling. I think I have about heard it all and then some. Sometimes I would love to say to the parents "Really? Do you think I have not heard this before?" Cause they seriously cannot think me THAT dumb. Bad checks, wrong name, wrong amount, post dated, wrong account, I forgot, etc etc etc
I love the "OH I left my checkbook on the counter. I will stop by and pick it up and pay you when I pick up"....then Gmom picks up.....then I get a message saying little Jonny is sick and will be out till Wed......... Seriously? Come on.
My thing is, would these parents be happy if they got paid whenever THEIR boss remembered? I doubt a "Oh you know what, I forgot about your check. I will have to bring it on Friday. But you will have to wait until Monday to cash it. Hope that isn't a problem" would go over well! So WHY do they feel it is ok to do it to the person that watches their most prized procession?
And that passive aggressive reminder that she WILL do it again would send me over the edge. I would give her a hefty fee and a note saying again=cash. Then I would up her late cash payment fee each time it is 'forgotten'. She will either leave, remember or pay for your next vacation in fees!
:hug: Hang in there.
happyface I am glad to see I am not the only one who thinks like this. I ask my clients to pay every monday morning at drop off. I had three parents tell me that they "forgotten" the check and I would have to wait till that evening. I finally go sick of it and sent a newsletter to my parents advising a late fee would apply to anyone who neglected to make their payment at drop off. One parent, told me that the check was no good and I would have to wait till Friday to cash it. I told her that her daughter would not be able to stay for ONE second without the payment. I know it sounds mean, but no child is allowed to stay without payment in hand.
In my newsletter I ask them to put think how they would feel if their boss told them they did not get a paycheck because it was "forgotten". After that, no one was late again! I let a few things slide, but NEVER will I allow payment to slide.- Flag
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