Would You Turn Unlicensed Providers In?

[Annalee]

Not everyone who runs unlicensed has something to hide... in my state they won't license me because I take 4 or less kids, and yes i still have over site, but only because I am on food program & I care for Foster kids; I run licensed whenever possible, but even TN has gotten rid of registration for providers not having enough kids to get licensed; thats not my fault... I run like I am licensed still but the state has rules in place that don't always make sense.

AR was the same way... Either take enough kids to get licensed or stay legally license exempt with fewer kids. Registration is really no longer an option because the state thinsk it's to much of a pain to essentially license homes that don't have alot of kids.

You are in my state of TN and licensing will license you for a FCC for up to 7 children if you want.....might not be feesible if you only keep 4 but you can get a license. I am group so I keep 12 + 3 school age with an assistant... If I chose to keep 4 or under, I would avoid licensing and the whole QRIS thing, in my opinion, but you CAN get a license if you desire one.

[craftymissbeth]

There are so many laws. Do you know them all? What if you accidentally broke one? Or did something to comply with one law that broke another? I'm just according to the logic everyone is using here, if you did (no one here would because you all know every law on Earth ) you're guilty until proven innocent. As I said before, with anything (not just child care), make sure you're doting your is and crossing your ts, because maybe one day someone will return your favor. As I said, my friend got into a fight with an annoying neighbor (not about daycare) and neighbor turned out to be a lawyer. Every little pinky toe my friend got out of line, there was legal trouble.

http://www.menshealth.com/best-life/crimes Look at this. Most of these I knew, but two shocked me. Did you know all of these things were illegal? I'm just saying, it's all fun and games to call the authorities on people. If you're even in the hot seat don't feel bad.

Before I decided to begin watching children in my home you better believe I made sure it's legal. Not educating yourself about the law is an extremely poor excuse for breaking it. Try again, unreg.

[craftymissbeth]

LOL Are you serious? Nice reading comprehension skills. I was BEING SARCASTIC, S T U P I D. Got it? I know that might be too much for your pea brain. P.S. I get most you care, because it's about M O N E Y. Like I said, pat yourself on the back. When the government and CPS is too busy checking on your competition and not on real abuse, give yourself a gold medal.

Hell yeah it's about money... I own a business for the sole purpose of making money, paying my bills, and taking care of my family. Of course I genuinely LOVE my dcks.. I'm very attached to them, but in the end of it all it IS about the money.

If I didn't know better, I'd say you sound a whole lot like our old friend QOTP.

[LysesKids]

In my previous comment, I mentioned that in my state you have to beicensed if watching children for a total of 20 hours or more per week. I'm referring to ILLEGALLY unlicensed providers. Guess I should have specified again.

And when I say "something to hide"... well, if they're running illegally then THATS something to hide. Ugh, I'm not saying every illegal provider is doing terrible things.., I'm saying that they should be reported because they're doing something ILLEGAL.

...and up to 20 hrs week is limited to 1 kid at 20 hrs or 2 kids at 10 hrs each... I was registered in KCMO right on the border when the laws changed in KS. I understood what you meant about the illegal providers.

[LysesKids]

You are in my state of TN and licensing will license you for a FCC for up to 7 children if you want.....might not be feesible if you only keep 4 but you can get a license. I am group so I keep 12 + 3 school age with an assistant... If I chose to keep 4 or under, I would avoid licensing and the whole QRIS thing, in my opinion, but you CAN get a license if you desire one.

Tried... turns out if I still had a 750 sq ft ranch home it wouldn't be a problem for licensing even with 4 kids, but a brand new 784 sq ft singlewide is .

Yep, I lost getting a license because I moved out of a small home with mold last year and bought a brand new one but unless I can turn it into a doublewide, they won't touch me. I can take vouchers, I'm on food program; I even do respite for foster babies ( that did require the state to do complete background)... heck I even have a federal passport issued after 9/11 and the feds don't leave any criminal records untouched, but nope can't get licensed here unless I sell the house

[craftymissbeth]

...and up to 20 hrs week is limited to 1 kid at 20 hrs or 2 kids at 10 hrs each... I was registered in KCMO right on the border when the laws changed in KS. I understood what you meant about the illegal providers.

If you understood, then I'm not getting why you felt I was talking about unlicensed providers in general...since you went on to explain how you're legally unlicensed. If your state lets you run unlicensed then I'm glad for you... I wish I COULD run unlicensed. But my opinion is that if a person is illegally unlicensed then they DO have something to hide. Just my opinion.

[Annalee]

Tried... turns out if I still had a 750 sq ft ranch home it wouldn't be a problem for licensing even with 4 kids, but a brand new 784 sq ft singlewide is .

Yep, I lost getting a license because I moved out of a small home with mold last year and bought a brand new one but unless I can turn it into a doublewide, they won't touch me. I can take vouchers, I'm on food program; I even do respite for foster babies ( that did require the state to do complete background)... heck I even have a federal passport issued after 9/11 and the feds don't leave any criminal records untouched, but nope can't get licensed here unless I sell the house

Got it! A single-wide is a definite NO-NO for licensing.. Sorry bout that!

[Annalee]

If you understood, then I'm not getting why you felt I was talking about unlicensed providers in general...since you went on to explain how you're legally unlicensed. If your state lets you run unlicensed then I'm glad for you... I wish I COULD run unlicensed. But my opinion is that if a person is illegally unlicensed then they DO have something to hide. Just my opinion.

Illegally unlicensed do have things to hide and there are lots of those in my county......but if licensing won't fix it, who will???? The state will wait till something bad happens and then it will be like "why didn't someone go in there?"

[craftymissbeth]

Illegally unlicensed do have things to hide and there are lots of those in my county......but if licensing won't fix it, who will???? The state will wait till something bad happens and then it will be like "why didn't someone go in there?"

Luckily, my two county surveyors are very good about going out to illegally unlicensed providers homes and getting the scoop. It's a completely confidential process here to report them, we do have to have a name and address. I know I've heard that so many areas of the country have problems with licensing being understaffed, but I live in the largest (by size, not population) county in my state and one full time and one part time surveyors do a great job at keeping up. Now, I don't like either of those ladies for personal reasons, but I'll admit they keep up very well.

At my annual inspection in march, I was told that they've been shutting down illegal providers like crazy. Here, it's a $500 fine for every day you run illegally. That's way more money than just getting licensed, so I just don't get it.

[MrsSteinel'sHouse]

If I didn't know better, I'd say you sound a whole lot like our old friend QOTP.

That is EXACTLY what I was thinking!!

[MsLisa]

...never mind...

[daycare]

That is EXACTLY what I was thinking!!

OMG I thought that same exact thing.....but I thought that it was made were that person was not able to gain access again???

[craftymissbeth]

OMG I thought that same exact thing.....but I thought that it was made were that person was not able to gain access again???

It seems like she came back a time or two using different IP addresses. I have no idea if it's really her, but it could be possible.

[melilley]

Hell yeah it's about money... I own a business for the sole purpose of making money, paying my bills, and taking care of my family. Of course I genuinely LOVE my dcks.. I'm very attached to them, but in the end of it all it IS about the money.

If I didn't know better, I'd say you sound a whole lot like our old friend QOTP.

I was thinking the same exact thing about QOTP!

[KiddieCahoots]

If I didn't know better, I'd say you sound a whole lot like our old friend QOTP.

Could beeee.......but then again, most ignoramuses sound like that. ::.........