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  • Blackcat31
    • Oct 2010
    • 36124

    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    Definitely think its state by state. I am from NJ. 6 years ago my child went to a large center and they had a crib room which was off the infant room but separated by a wall and half door. They had a dozen cribs in the crib room for naps.
    Center rules also vary from in-home child care rules. Even in the same state.

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    • NightOwl
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Mar 2014
      • 2722

      #17
      The parents know this and do it themselves! Most children have their own room at home where they sleep. I think that's what my state bases their sleep regulations on.

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      • NightOwl
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Mar 2014
        • 2722

        #18
        Originally posted by Blackcat31
        Center rules also vary from in-home child care rules. Even in the same state.
        Yes, here centers have a totally different set of regulations from home daycares.

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        • melilley
          Daycare.com Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 5155

          #19
          Our state just says that we have to maintain supervision and monitor infants' breathing, sleep position, bedding and possible signs of distress.

          I keep infants in my sight at all times, but the other children sleep in the nap room, dc room, or my room.

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          • Crazy8
            Daycare.com Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 2769

            #20
            my DH would have been kicked out of the room, especially if he didn't have very valid reason for being there - I will delay nap a half hour or so but that's about it - I don't do cranky babies and he doesn't want a cranky wife, LOL!!!!

            And our regulations (NJ) say nothing more than having a "clean, safe" place for sleeping and "within hearing". All my littles in cribs sleep in the bedrooms, just like they do at home. I have monitors on them but I can hear them without the monitors too. I think its pretty weird to have to stare at sleeping kids all day.

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            • NightOwl
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Mar 2014
              • 2722

              #21
              I have a baby monitor in there also! So I always hear what's going on in there.

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              • NightOwl
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Mar 2014
                • 2722

                #22
                Doh!! He left and came back and is making all kinds of racket!! And went in the room with the sleepers. If he wakes them, y'all may hear me yelling all the way from here.

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                • NightOwl
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 2722

                  #23
                  20 minutes later, one baby is awake. So this baby got a 20 minute nap this morning and a 50 minute nap this afternoon, where he usually gets about 3 hours total for the day. Sigh.... Thanks, hubby. When are you going back to work??

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                  • Heidi
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 7121

                    #24
                    I have 4 children under the age of 2, that is all. If I napped them all in the same room, assuming I even had a room big enough to do that (and leave pnp's up in all the time), no one would sleep more than 20 minutes at a time.

                    If my state made it a reg for FCC (it is for center), that infants must sleep within the same room, I'd be done.

                    They sleep in the front room (living room) until about 3 1/2-4 months...when sounds and other children nearby start to bother them. Then, it's a room nearby for frequent checks for a few months, then, it' further away.

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                    • Annalee
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 5864

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Heidi
                      I have 4 children under the age of 2, that is all. If I napped them all in the same room, assuming I even had a room big enough to do that (and leave pnp's up in all the time), no one would sleep more than 20 minutes at a time.

                      If my state made it a reg for FCC (it is for center), that infants must sleep within the same room, I'd be done.

                      They sleep in the front room (living room) until about 3 1/2-4 months...when sounds and other children nearby start to bother them. Then, it's a room nearby for frequent checks for a few months, then, it' further away.
                      I run a fan by each pnp to drown out noise. I only have one infant right now but am allowed 4 in my ratio. Once infants reach 12 months they go on a mat for nap....Supervision is BIG here and considered a major violation....First thing licensor does upon entrance is look in pnp....kinda funny because sometimes there is no infant in there.::

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                      • NightOwl
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 2722

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Heidi
                        I have 4 children under the age of 2, that is all. If I napped them all in the same room, assuming I even had a room big enough to do that (and leave pnp's up in all the time), no one would sleep more than 20 minutes at a time.

                        If my state made it a reg for FCC (it is for center), that infants must sleep within the same room, I'd be done.

                        They sleep in the front room (living room) until about 3 1/2-4 months...when sounds and other children nearby start to bother them. Then, it's a room nearby for frequent checks for a few months, then, it' further away.
                        Yes, this! They nap at different times and can't tolerate the noise!

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                        • Annalee
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 5864

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Heidi
                          I have 4 children under the age of 2, that is all. If I napped them all in the same room, assuming I even had a room big enough to do that (and leave pnp's up in all the time), no one would sleep more than 20 minutes at a time.

                          If my state made it a reg for FCC (it is for center), that infants must sleep within the same room, I'd be done.

                          They sleep in the front room (living room) until about 3 1/2-4 months...when sounds and other children nearby start to bother them. Then, it's a room nearby for frequent checks for a few months, then, it' further away.
                          I think providers here have made this statement at least once in their lifetime, but, bottom line is, I have been in business too long to give it up that easy...It is hard to roll sometimes but it is the choice I have made to do!

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                          • Heidi
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 7121

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Annalee
                            I think providers here have made this statement at least once in their lifetime, but, bottom line is, I have been in business too long to give it up that easy...It is hard to roll sometimes but it is the choice I have made to do!
                            No, I'm not lying. I would be done. At least with regulated care. I have 4 kids enrolled, 2 are 3-4 days a week. I can take 3 without regulation here. I have 4 children here maybe 1-2 days a week right now. With a little juggling, I could be legally exempt easily. If I were, I'd still do things the way I do. I'd go to trainings, I'd follow safe sleep practices, I'd keep up my CPR.

                            This is family childcare. In families, children generally sleep in beds, in rooms. It's not cruel, it's not dangerous, it's normal behavior in most industrialized countries. I follow safe sleep practices; not because I particularly agree with all of it, but because I have to. I'll absolutely do that, no problem, but that's my limit, honestly!

                            I'm really glad that those who live in states where it's required are able to make that work. My first child arrives at 7, and the last one leaves at 5:30. There is no way on earth I could stay in the same room with them for 10.50 hours a day with no help. That is beyond my capacities.

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                            • Annalee
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 5864

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Heidi
                              No, I'm not lying. I would be done. At least with regulated care. I have 4 kids enrolled, 2 are 3-4 days a week. I can take 3 without regulation here. I have 4 children here maybe 1-2 days a week right now. With a little juggling, I could be legally exempt easily.

                              This is family childcare. In families, children generally sleep in beds, in rooms. It's not cruel, it's not dangerous, it's normal behavior in most industrialized countries. I follow safe sleep practices; not because I particularly agree with all of it, but because I have to. I'll absolutely do that, no problem, but that's my limit, honestly!

                              I'm really glad that those who live in states where it's required are able to make that work. My first child arrives at 7, and the last one leaves at 5:30. There is no way on earth I could stay in the same room with them for 10.50 hours a day with no help. That is beyond my capacities.
                              Totally understand where you are coming from. My hours are 6 to 4:30. My children have to stay in the room together. There are FCC homes here whom use 2 or 3 rooms and they can make it work but I feel they run themselves ragged attempting to do so with extra assistants.....not worth that to me! I actually got hit one year on supervision for my FCCERS-R assessment because they said a child could sit by a shelf and I could not adequately view them?????? Not enough to drop my score, but just saying so you know what we deal with here all in the name of QUALITY...go figure!!!! :confused:

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                              • Heidi
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 7121

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Annalee
                                Totally understand where you are coming from. My hours are 6 to 4:30. My children have to stay in the room together. There are FCC homes here whom use 2 or 3 rooms and they can make it work but I feel they run themselves ragged attempting to do so with extra assistants.....not worth that to me! I actually got hit one year on supervision for my FCCERS-R assessment because they said a child could sit by a shelf and I could not adequately view them?????? Not enough to drop my score, but just saying so you know what we deal with here all in the name of QUALITY...go figure!!!! :confused:
                                Judging a family daycare by institution standards. That is not a quality issue; that's a flaw in logic. I know you have no choice. Just sayin', that just because "they" say it's right or wrong, doesn't mean it is.

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