Overeating? WWYD?

[MarinaVanessa]

Although I haven't commented on this thread I have been folowing it and I just have to say that I was relieved/excited/happy/proud etc of you and your effort with this family

I hope the blood work turns out ok and that is just a scare for DCM and that things really turn around and they follow through at home with his new diet. The go-gurt dissapoints me though . I would tell DCM that I replaced the go-gurt with real yogurt and mention that go-gurt is like giving a chid Tampico in place of fresh OJ. And really, yogurt cups are MUCH less expensive than when you buy the smaller packages like go-gurts. Here's to hoping it's an eye opener for mom lovethis

[daycarediva]

Although I haven't commented on this thread I have been folowing it and I just have to say that I was relieved/excited/happy/proud etc of you and your effort with this family

I hope the blood work turns out ok and that is just a scare for DCM and that things really turn around and they follow through at home with his new diet. The go-gurt dissapoints me though . I would tell DCM that I replaced the go-gurt with real yogurt and mention that go-gurt is like giving a chid Tampico in place of fresh OJ. And really, yogurt cups are MUCH less expensive than when you buy the smaller packages like go-gurts. Here's to hoping it's an eye opener for mom lovethis

I told her as soon as I saw the package. The only flavored yogurt I buy is vanilla. Mainly, plain greek and I use real fruit popped into the food processor to add flavoring for me/my kids/daycare kids.

They aren't happy with me AT ALL, of course. Dcd usually picks up and he hasn't been here since I spoke to him. I am the bearer of bad news. I am surprised Mom didn't pull, honestly. I did send her a nice email thanking her for working with me to help dcb and for making his health her #1 priority.

They brought him here KNOWING I love health and fitness and put a great deal of that into my program, so I am more surprised at her, to be honest.

Dcb had 1/2 wheat bagel with FF cream cheese, 1/2c strawberries and 1/2c cottage cheese for breakfast (4 oz milk)

He had 1/2 serving of diced chicken with sugar free ketchup (hoping that would help get him to eat protein, it did help) 8 whole wheat crackers, fresh steamed broccoli (2 servings) and salad with raspberry vinaigrette (2 servings).

I changed my menus to reduce his carb consumption, no pasta! and sent updated menus to the other parents---blaming it on the warm weather, and wanting to have lighter meals.

[MarinaVanessa]

That's great that you found a way for him to eat the chicken. Hopefully he will be easy to wean from the extra sauces/dips after a time and he'll eat protein better. Good luck with all of this.

Isn't it amazing that parents get angry at the wrong people? How dare you care about their child's health you mad woman?!?! Can't you see that it was easier for these parents to feed him fatty/sugary/processed foods in exaggerated amounts in order to keep him content?!?! The nerve of some people

[renodeb]

It sounds to me like he is drinking his calories instead of having reasonable food portions. Can I awesome that he does not drink water? Sometimes them drinking water will help curb cravings. It sounds like he is hooked on carbs? I always make sure my dc has plenty of protein. Sounds like maybe he gets his way at home and expects that from you and mom is of little help.
To be honest I would not ask her to bring extra foods because I think that would just invite trouble around the other kids. I think you need to tell her that you will have to raise your rate by 10 dollars a week otobe able to feed him and see what she says! Keep us posted!
According to the food program he only needs 1/2 cup or so a meal!
Deb

[daycarediva]

It sounds to me like he is drinking his calories instead of having reasonable food portions. Can I awesome that he does not drink water? Sometimes them drinking water will help curb cravings. It sounds like he is hooked on carbs? I always make sure my dc has plenty of protein. Sounds like maybe he gets his way at home and expects that from you and mom is of little help.
To be honest I would not ask her to bring extra foods because I think that would just invite trouble around the other kids. I think you need to tell her that you will have to raise your rate by 10 dollars a week otobe able to feed him and see what she says! Keep us posted!
According to the food program he only needs 1/2 cup or so a meal!
Deb

He has seconds or more at every meal, of every component (except sole proteins, those have to be in something or mixed, dip, etc).

He drinks a TON of water. TON.

He is a carboholic. Food is also used as a pacifier, and he eats at least every 2 hours while he is awake. At home, there is always food available to 'graze on'. I'm torn between thinking he has a medical issue/condition (like diabetes) OR he has no full sensation and is always overfed so as soon as he feels LESS full, he thinks=hungry. Kwim?

He LOVES fresh fruit, fresh/raw veggies. I did my stand by "Eat all the veggies you want" thinking he was just playing me and would stop when I didn't give a preferred food group. Nope, he would eat bags of salad.

[CraftyMom]

How did his results turn out?

[NightOwl]

Any updates diva?

[My3cents]

UPDATE

dck is having fasting bloodwork done..

dcm returned the form yesterday with the nurse having written out a statement agreeing with the food program meal components and sizes (eg. one piece of toast, one serving of fruit for breakfast is FINE).

Says to limit milk consumption to 8-12oz at daycare, and 4oz at home with dinner, specifically says fat free.

Dr says even reduce fruit servings to 1/day since he always gets seconds. Offer vegetables or low fat protein like yogurt at snacks. Dcm brought in GO GURT (24g sugar EACH) to give him at snack. I have plain greek that I will offer him instead.

It also says he is to return in one month to recheck his weight. Dcm is taking him Friday AM for his fasting blood work.

He is also now off the charts for weight. Around 50% for height.

so did you tell her that the yoghurt she brought in had 24g of sugar? She is just oblivious or has a small budget for food which means she buys the junk foods that cost less. Good for you- this is a perfect example of how a provider can make a good impact difference in both the child and families lives-

I would increase his water, separate the food on his plate so it looks like he has more then he does and then make him wait for 2nds until everyone is finished eating to get more. I would do this for a child that I felt was over weight, but normally for my kiddos if they want more I give it to them because they all know their full and are very active here.

[My3cents]

He has seconds or more at every meal, of every component (except sole proteins, those have to be in something or mixed, dip, etc).

He drinks a TON of water. TON.

He is a carboholic. Food is also used as a pacifier, and he eats at least every 2 hours while he is awake. At home, there is always food available to 'graze on'. I'm torn between thinking he has a medical issue/condition (like diabetes) OR he has no full sensation and is always overfed so as soon as he feels LESS full, he thinks=hungry. Kwim?

He LOVES fresh fruit, fresh/raw veggies. I did my stand by "Eat all the veggies you want" thinking he was just playing me and would stop when I didn't give a preferred food group. Nope, he would eat bags of salad.

I think all your doing is great for this little one......but keep in mind they are going to do what they want at home. If the parents are over weight they are not that way from eating healthy, little guy knows how to get what he wants from the parents. Sad. And....sometimes all the education in the world can't help someone that is a food addict. Bless you for all your doing!!!

What I do is after 2nds tell the kiddo's its all gone. Unless its something that is healthy for them and then I decide if they need more or not.

[daycarediva]

UPDATE!

DCM finally had the bloodwork done. She forgot it was fasting () and had to have it rescheduled.


DCK is BORDERLINE diabetic. I figured something was up. The dr set them up with a nutritionist, she has specific serving sizes outlined, brought his dairy intake to 2 servings/day (I have a note for the food program on this, Mom wants both served at home).

My contract states that for a special diet, all food will need to be supplied by the parent. Dcm is of course, not happy with that arrangement and sent me an emailed list of 'acceptable substitutes' for things on the menu dck can't have.

I'm expecting them to give notice Friday. She brought his lunch today, but no breakfast or snacks and got very upset that I wouldn't give him something else. We had HM cereal bars for breakfast, blueberries, milk and for snack-yogurt (plain greek with fruit). Neither of which he can have, his fruit is limited to one serving/day and Mom had packed a banana of all things! I had to have her go home and get him something and come back. It pushed his breakfast time back, dck was upset and dcm of course is mad at me.

Sooo....wwyd? Stick to contract/handbook, make changes to everyone's meals or give ONLY him substitutes? I of course want to pass the additional cost on to DCM if I provide it, but I think she would probably take issue with that as well.

You know, heaven forbid she be the responsible party in all of this.

[craftymissbeth]

That's so sad. It doesn't sound like she's taking it very seriously, though... if this were my child I'd have no problem sending the food just so my child was healthy.

If your contract says no substitutions then I'd stick to it. I wouldn't accept him without a breakfast, lunch, and snack. And they would have to be in accordance with the doctors orders she provided.

[spinnymarie]

Awww what a dilemma. Diabetic-friendly substitutions, to me, means that you are basically cooking a SECOND meal for this kid alone. And that is unfair to you. I wouldn't even be willing to pass on cost to mom, I would make her provide it.

I would be wiling to work with her in these ways:
1. Provide a weekly menu (if you don't already) for her to provide ONLY the things that need to be substituted. And if we went off-menu sometimes, I would be willing to provide the necessary substitution for the day.
2. Make sure that some of our snacks each week wouldn't require any substitutions.

And that's it. I think that is reasonable enough.

[Play Care]

Awww what a dilemma. Diabetic-friendly substitutions, to me, means that you are basically cooking a SECOND meal for this kid alone. And that is unfair to you. I wouldn't even be willing to pass on cost to mom, I would make her provide it.

I would be wiling to work with her in these ways:
1. Provide a weekly menu (if you don't already) for her to provide ONLY the things that need to be substituted. And if we went off-menu sometimes, I would be willing to provide the necessary substitution for the day.
2. Make sure that some of our snacks each week wouldn't require any substitutions.

And that's it. I think that is reasonable enough.

Good idea!

[daycarediva]

Awww what a dilemma. Diabetic-friendly substitutions, to me, means that you are basically cooking a SECOND meal for this kid alone. And that is unfair to you. I wouldn't even be willing to pass on cost to mom, I would make her provide it.

I would be wiling to work with her in these ways:
1. Provide a weekly menu (if you don't already) for her to provide ONLY the things that need to be substituted. And if we went off-menu sometimes, I would be willing to provide the necessary substitution for the day.
2. Make sure that some of our snacks each week wouldn't require any substitutions.

And that's it. I think that is reasonable enough.

That is an awesome compromise! I will email Mom back with this counter offer and see what she says. THANKS!

[itlw8]

We do need to always remember the food program amount is a MINIMUM amount for an age group it does not mean that is all a child will eat. many children eat 2x that amount especially if they are not on the small side. a taller ( bigger)child will burn more calories I give those more to start with than the others. and yes 2nds after that is it... MOM is allowing it by stopping at McDonalds. Not much you can do about poor eating habits at home.