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    Would You Term?

    I have a pair of twin 4 year old boys, today was the 2nd time here. This is what happened today with 1 of the boys..
    wouldn't stay in the playroom
    kept opening my safety gates and going into the off limits areas
    was not listening to instruction at all
    stomping on and breaking toys
    throwing toys at the window and walls
    wouldn't sit on his bum in the chairs, kept standing up on them
    locked the bathroom door 2-3 times after he was asked not to ( i had to find something to jimmy the lock open)
    When put in time out sat and smirked and had a sassy mouth

    This all happened in the space of 3 hours.... I called for pickup cuz I wasn't going to deal with this any longer. The other twin follows along with his sibling.... I was so upset that I was shaking..Do you think this can be worked with?
  • roxy1
    New Daycare.com Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 2

    #2
    I had a similar child here once. She was 3 1/2 and I stuck it out for a month (my probationary period) and ended it after she was holding my 9 mo old sons hand down against his stroller and slapping it repeatedly. Even though it was over half my income at the time, my sanity and all the childrens safety were at risk. Maybe they are just getting used to the limits in your place but if it continues... you are not paid enough to handle this kind of behavior!

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    • Tdhmom
      Daycare.com Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 314

      #3
      Just from personal experience..****N, RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN!!!! The boy you're describing is the set of twins I have (they're 5 and boy and girl) and I have stuck it out since august....I have a countdown until they are out of my house and I only have 15 days left!!!! happyface

      They have a couple days a week when they fit right in...the other days make me want to beat my head against a wall!!

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      • Tdhmom
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jun 2013
        • 314

        #4
        I wasn't cussing :: all I was saying was run run as fast as you can!!! Haha not sure why it was blurred

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        • EntropyControlSpecialist
          Embracing the chaos.
          • Mar 2012
          • 7466

          #5
          That is reslly out of control for a 4yo. Yes, I would term.

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          • lynne
            Daycare.com Member
            • Apr 2014
            • 94

            #6
            thanks

            I'm the OP just registered.... I have 4 kids of my own and my first was a live wire, but in all my years of childcare I've never seen this kind of behavour.. I keep telling myself that I need to put this back on the parents ( great advice from here) I'm going to call mom tomorrow and term, I guess I feel like I've failed these kids. It really comes down to safety of my other kids.

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            • cheerfuldom
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 7413

              #7
              Term.

              We providers need to redefine failure. You ARE a success when you can know your limitations and abide by those.....when you can keep all adults and children in your care safe....when you can put a child first and insist parents find adequate supervision and care for demanding children instead of keeping kids for your own income.....you did the right thing! You are not failing these kids! You succeeding in making the right choice for your business, family and frankly, for these twins.

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              • SignMeUp
                Family ChildCare Provider
                • Jan 2014
                • 1325

                #8
                Originally posted by cheerfuldom

                We providers need to redefine failure.
                happyfacehappyfacehappyfacehappyface
                Last edited by SignMeUp; 04-25-2014, 06:15 AM. Reason: formatting

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                • Leigh
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 3814

                  #9
                  Originally posted by cheerfuldom
                  Term.

                  We providers need to redefine failure. You ARE a success when you can know your limitations and abide by those.....when you can keep all adults and children in your care safe....when you can put a child first and insist parents find adequate supervision and care for demanding children instead of keeping kids for your own income.....you did the right thing! You are not failing these kids! You succeeding in making the right choice for your business, family and frankly, for these twins.
                  Good advice.

                  While it's easy to think that it COULD turn around (and it could)-it's really not your problem to deal with. If these were 2 year olds, I'd tell you to give them a chance. At FOUR, these kids certainly have a history of this behavior that YOU are not likely to be able to change.

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                  • daycarediva
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 11698

                    #10
                    Originally posted by cheerfuldom
                    Term.

                    We providers need to redefine failure. You ARE a success when you can know your limitations and abide by those.....when you can keep all adults and children in your care safe....when you can put a child first and insist parents find adequate supervision and care for demanding children instead of keeping kids for your own income.....you did the right thing! You are not failing these kids! You succeeding in making the right choice for your business, family and frankly, for these twins.


                    If you cannot control it, and it is a safety risk, AND you are so upset it is affecting you physically, you have certainly reached your limit.

                    You haven't failed them, you are making the right decision. Hopefully the parents take this as a wake up call. ((((HUGS))))

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                    • lynne
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 94

                      #11
                      thanks!

                      Thank you so much for the advice... You all are right, At 4 these boys should know better and be able to behave. I'm nervous about the call to mom this morning but there is no way I can keep everyone safe when I'm chasing these boys around my house. I should have listened to what mom had to say at the interview..Lesson learned. Thanks again!

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                      • Mister Sir Husband
                        cook, cleaner, bug killer
                        • May 2013
                        • 306

                        #12
                        Oh yea... definite term. Breaking and throwing toys cant happen. One toy hits another child and you've got worse problems. I can imagine trying to explain to a parent that the marks on their child's face are there because another kid threw a toy and hit them. The parent then decides my home isn't safe enough and pulls kid.
                        Chief cook, bottle washer & spider killer...

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                        • KidGrind
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 1099

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered
                          I have a pair of twin 4 year old boys, today was the 2nd time here. This is what happened today with 1 of the boys..
                          wouldn't stay in the playroom
                          kept opening my safety gates and going into the off limits areas
                          was not listening to instruction at all
                          stomping on and breaking toys
                          throwing toys at the window and walls
                          wouldn't sit on his bum in the chairs, kept standing up on them
                          locked the bathroom door 2-3 times after he was asked not to ( i had to find something to jimmy the lock open)
                          When put in time out sat and smirked and had a sassy mouth

                          This all happened in the space of 3 hours.... I called for pickup cuz I wasn't going to deal with this any longer. The other twin follows along with his sibling.... I was so upset that I was shaking..Do you think this can be worked with?
                          Definitely a no for me if it’s part-time or drop-in care.

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                          • KidGrind
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 1099

                            #14
                            Originally posted by cheerfuldom
                            Term.

                            We providers need to redefine failure. You ARE a success when you can know your limitations and abide by those.....when you can keep all adults and children in your care safe....when you can put a child first and insist parents find adequate supervision and care for demanding children instead of keeping kids for your own income.....you did the right thing! You are not failing these kids! You succeeding in making the right choice for your business, family and frankly, for these twins.
                            I love, love, love this!happyfacehappyfacehappyfacehappyfacehappyface

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                            • wdmmom
                              Advanced Daycare.com
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 2713

                              #15
                              No way!!! If they aren't full time Monday through Friday kids, get them gone!!! If I've learned anything, it's that drop in care and part time care aren't any good. If it's not full time, I don't want to mess with it. The sooner you can get them to go native (as Nan would say), the better it is for you.

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