New New York Regulations- What Are You All Doing ?

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  • Familycare71
    Daycare.com Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 1716

    #91
    Originally posted by Leanna
    Ok...we have one of those meetings coming up too. I am assuming a VOICE rep will be there, but I am going to call and invite one to come anyway. Any other suggestions? Maybe call the providers I know and encourage them to go with questions too.

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    • nannyde
      All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
      • Mar 2010
      • 7320

      #92
      Originally posted by nanglgrl
      And YOU helped! I'm pretty sure that between my big mouth, your voice of reason and Terry's connections Iowa will have a hard time implementing regs that do not benefit the health and safety of children. Now if I could only get them to do mandatory registration constant with investigation and consequences for those who operate unregistered. I know the state is trying but I wish they would try harder. You may not agree with this one, I don't know, but I've seen huge new problems around here because of people just wanting to "watch a few kids" and be unregistered.
      They won't stop unregistered. They passed a bill in 2008 and had the law behind them but the DHS put a stop to it. They passed yearly inspections, a fee for registration, required fingerprinting, and mandatory registration to go in effect July 1, 2013. The dhs only did the yearly inspections and fingerprinting.

      They tried again this year and it got thrown out. Even if they do pass it there has to be enough money to register and do the yearly inspections. There isn't enough money. Even if they pass it it will take five years to make it happen and they could still do what they did and just not do it.
      http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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      • TwinKristi
        Family Childcare Provider
        • Aug 2013
        • 2390

        #93
        Originally posted by slorey
        For my initial inspection, prior to opening, my registrar told me I needed to add a second hand rail to my front stairs (my alternate egress door) because the regulation stated all stairways needed railings, and because that word was plural, I needed 2 railings (I had a railing on one side and it is only 4 stairs to the ground). That is my other big complaint...your licensor can interpret a reg one way and someone else could be told something entirely different.
        This is what bugs me about being licensed as well... one person reads things one way, another reads them another way and YOU are stuck in the middle. I had the same issue here, my pre-licensing inspector said they may want me to put a rail in the middle of my deck that has ONE step down. ONE STEP! I kinda and hoped the actual licensing agent wouldn't and he didn't even suggest anything of the sort. He was more worried about the cement not being 100% level in some areas. My back yard has 6 trimmed cement squares because we live on adobe that moves with weather. Sometimes it's perfectly straight, sometimes it not. That's the beauty of having 6 squares and not 1 large slab or it would be broken to bits by now. Now we've had some rain and they're level again! The other big issue was knives in a block. My friend said her initial licensor told her she had to keep them up above the fridge to keep them out of reach of children. When she was inspected a year later the inspector told her to keep them in the corner of her counter the further from the edge and that was safer than above the fridge. What if there was an earthquake and they fell down? So 2 people, from the same office, with 100% different ideas as to what the regs would mean. So mine is in the corner, it passed my initial inspection that way and that's where it stays. One of my SA DCBs could reach it on the counter OR the fridge if he wanted to. But that's what MY supervision is for.


        Originally posted by KidGrind
        I’ve documented and have met with higher ups. It has been a retaliatory situation in my case. I have close to approximately 50+ documentation pages. Now what I’ve been complaining about & stating for over a year, others are seeing. Recently some inspections have been removed from my file because I wouldn’t sit back and just take it. Once this particular individual visited my home 15 times in one month.

        I should add I am not in New York. I just understand why many providers have some concerns. I get inspections are important in an attempt to KEEP CHILDREN SAFE & weed out unsatisfactory providers. I just believe some personnel do not comprehend the regulations or abuse their positions.
        That's CRAZY!!! I'm in shock!

        I'm in CA and I've been operating in my home for 2yrs, licensed just over 1, but aside from my initial inspection I've yet to have an unannounced visit aside from the Food Prog. Rep and even they're off schedule now and haven't been here since August I think? I know providers who haven't been inspected since 2009. Our particular city doesn't have a designated inspector who just goes around inspecting daycares in our city, they only go based on complaints or their lottery system. If you don't get drawn in their lottery, you don't get inspected. Unfortunately I think this has set the wrong precedence in that people get sloppy. They're used to not being inspected and don't stay as strict. I guess being somewhat new I'm paranoid and I don't ever want to be cited, especially for something silly. I mean, if they see a safety violation by all means correct me and cite me if needed. But if it's something as silly as "leaves on my front walkway" or "one, not TWO, railsssss" then that's going to make me mad. I've shared my story a few times but my children were neglected by their past provider who was an alcoholic and severely intoxicated (to the point of vomiting and passing out) and no one EVER inspected her during that time and could have possibly caught her in the act sooner. I get why these rules are in place, I really do, but it's the execution of the rules that worry me. And hearing more and more about QRIS in CA scares me. :confused:

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