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  • cheerfuldom
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 7413

    Trial Period Ended and They Didn't Stay

    This is just a vent but seriously, I should have just listened to my gut on this one and I didn't. Interviewed and did one week's care. Little one was horrendous at drop off and cried a lot during the day. Parents ended care at the end of the week because my rate was too high and because my ratio was too high. Well little do they know that I am in close contact with their previous provider and know for certain that my rate was only $5 more than the previous provider with only one more child (their child!) in my ratio as compared to the old provider. They are quite well off, travel a lot and the old provider said the same so I do not believe at all that $5 a week was cracking their finances. I find it odd that they suddenly have a problem with my ratio at the end of the week yet were fine with it at interview, same with the rate. None of the dropoffs or pickups were chaotic and for almost all of the times, they didn't even see the other kids (their kid was first drop off, last pickup) so it was not affecting them at all from what they could see or experience.

    I wish they would have just been honest. I know for a fact that they were getting an extra 90 minutes of care with their old provider (and she retired, gee I wonder why....) and I would not put up with that schedule. Mom was wanting several hours more per day outside of her work schedule which is just plain selfish if you ask me. 11 or 12 hours of care a day, 5 days a week is not something I will put up with when I know good and well that the parents can pick up A LOT earlier. I find it especially annoying that my ratio was "too high" yet they are okay with their child having no face time with them during most of the week. Its like parents want to act like they care but they only care so far as it doesn't cramp their own style and free time. I bet for sure that they found some poor soul to work 60 hours or more a week caring for their daughter and that is why they went somewhere else. And I caught mom in a lie saying kid wasnt going to be here on Friday because they were going out of town, then Dad comes to pickup and says no, just he is going. Mom and kid are not going anywhere yet they did not show up on Friday for daycare.

    Whatever. I dont need that drama and was not clicking with them or their child anyway but I would rather a person just be honest and say "We found someone that will work the longer hours we want" rather than trying to say my rates were high and my ratio was high and they were "concerned with the number of kids here" as if I had some crazy amount and the reason this did not work out was my fault. It does make me mad to have my judgement questioned on rates and ratios when I know good and well what is reasonable, fair for me and the kids, what is normal for this area, etc. I don't like for people to treat me like I am stupid and dont know what they are really doing.....using me for temp care while they continue to interview until they find someone that doesn't tell them no. Their previous provider was run ragged and gave into parents all the time so no wonder she finally retired. I am saying retired but it was really that she closed down. I dont know that she took care of kids for more than three years tops, maybe two. and I generally have five here including my own kids and am well within the legal limits. I know for a fact that their old provider had 4 and lots of time, had her school ager grand kids at the house too and caring for the daycare kids, something I would never allow.

    I do not appreciate being lied to or dealing with drama and fake people so good riddance.
  • KidGrind
    Daycare.com Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 1099

    #2
    Be happy, they did you a favor per your own words!

    Hopefully soon a child and parents you click with come a calling for your services.

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    • Annalee
      Daycare.com Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 5864

      #3
      Originally posted by cheerfuldom
      This is just a vent but seriously, I should have just listened to my gut on this one and I didn't. Interviewed and did one week's care. Little one was horrendous at drop off and cried a lot during the day. Parents ended care at the end of the week because my rate was too high and because my ratio was too high. Well little do they know that I am in close contact with their previous provider and know for certain that my rate was only $5 more than the previous provider with only one more child (their child!) in my ratio as compared to the old provider. They are quite well off, travel a lot and the old provider said the same so I do not believe at all that $5 a week was cracking their finances. I find it odd that they suddenly have a problem with my ratio at the end of the week yet were fine with it at interview, same with the rate. None of the dropoffs or pickups were chaotic and for almost all of the times, they didn't even see the other kids (their kid was first drop off, last pickup) so it was not affecting them at all from what they could see or experience.

      I wish they would have just been honest. I know for a fact that they were getting an extra 90 minutes of care with their old provider (and she retired, gee I wonder why....) and I would not put up with that schedule. Mom was wanting several hours more per day outside of her work schedule which is just plain selfish if you ask me. 11 or 12 hours of care a day, 5 days a week is not something I will put up with when I know good and well that the parents can pick up A LOT earlier. I find it especially annoying that my ratio was "too high" yet they are okay with their child having no face time with them during most of the week. Its like parents want to act like they care but they only care so far as it doesn't cramp their own style and free time. I bet for sure that they found some poor soul to work 60 hours or more a week caring for their daughter and that is why they went somewhere else. And I caught mom in a lie saying kid wasnt going to be here on Friday because they were going out of town, then Dad comes to pickup and says no, just he is going. Mom and kid are not going anywhere yet they did not show up on Friday for daycare.

      Whatever. I dont need that drama and was not clicking with them or their child anyway but I would rather a person just be honest and say "We found someone that will work the longer hours we want" rather than trying to say my rates were high and my ratio was high and they were "concerned with the number of kids here" as if I had some crazy amount and the reason this did not work out was my fault. It does make me mad to have my judgement questioned on rates and ratios when I know good and well what is reasonable, fair for me and the kids, what is normal for this area, etc. I don't like for people to treat me like I am stupid and dont know what they are really doing.....using me for temp care while they continue to interview until they find someone that doesn't tell them no. Their previous provider was run ragged and gave into parents all the time so no wonder she finally retired. I am saying retired but it was really that she closed down. I dont know that she took care of kids for more than three years tops, maybe two. and I generally have five here including my own kids and am well within the legal limits. I know for a fact that their old provider had 4 and lots of time, had her school ager grand kids at the house too and caring for the daycare kids, something I would never allow.

      I do not appreciate being lied to or dealing with drama and fake people so good riddance.
      Don't be too hard on yourself. More than likely, you dodged a bullet....the "first to arrive, last to leave" parents always bothered me the most....one reason I limited my hours in care. I bet their old provider let these parents do whatever/whenever....they are in for rude awakening.

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      • daycarediva
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 11698

        #4
        That IS frustrating! I know I am lied to sooo often, at interviews, when I have a conference, heck in daily conversation about the kids. YOU know the reason that they didn't stay, and honestly GOOD RIDDANCE.


        I hope you find a great fit ASAP!

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        • Cat Herder
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 13744

          #5
          Originally posted by cheerfuldom
          "We found someone that will work the longer hours we want" rather than trying to say my rates were high and my ratio was high .
          Vent away.... You deserve it. :hug:

          Translation: How dare you charge more per hour when you have just as many kids as the lady I could manipulate?? I can't get my money's worth this way and thanks to your detailed handbook DCD can see through my "Me Time" plans, now...

          She was doing crazy math.....

          See, I even vented a little with you..... ::::
          - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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          • crazydaycarelady
            Not really crazy
            • Jul 2012
            • 1457

            #6
            Consider it a blessing. They weren't honest with you because they aren't being honest with themselves Who wants to say" we are going somewhere else because we want to be with our kid less and pay less for the privledge of doing so!"

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            • Blackcat31
              • Oct 2010
              • 36124

              #7
              (((Hugs)))) Cheer! lovethis

              They didn't deserve a provider as good as you so their loss!!

              Totally hear what you're saying though... BTDT

              :hug: :hug: :hug:

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              • cheerfuldom
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 7413

                #8
                Originally posted by crazydaycarelady
                Consider it a blessing. They weren't honest with you because they aren't being honest with themselves Who wants to say" we are going somewhere else because we want to be with our kid less and pay less for the privledge of doing so!"
                that is nice of you to say. I know you all understand how frustrating it is to have a great setup, great location, fair rates, low ratios and still get complaining parents. it really is exhausting.

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                • cheerfuldom
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 7413

                  #9
                  update.....I told their former provider that this family did not stay with me (she asked about it previously) and she told me that this family had offered to pay her $175 a week to continue caring for their daughter, that is $20 more a week than they paid me! yet they had an issue with my rate. really, it was just what another poster said, they were getting more hours out of this other person and I wasnt willing to do that but still, I dont like being lied too. The previous provider also said this child started biting at the end of the care there so again, I dodged another bullet. DCK had been scratching here and I was keeping her separated and watching closely. She probably would have been biting too if given the chance.

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                  • spud912
                    Trix are for kids
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 2398

                    #10
                    :hug: Sorry it didn't work out but I agree.....it was for the best! The next family will probably be a million times better! It still stinks when someone leaves and weren't honest with the reason(s).

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                    • Laurel
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 3218

                      #11
                      For some reason this reminds me of a situation years ago that had nothing to do with daycare. Some people were treating me really badly for no apparent reason. It was upsetting me sooo much.

                      My husband was sooo supportive but I still couldn't seem to let it go. Finally, patient old wonderful him said "Why can't you just accept that some people are jerks? It is NOT you."

                      It's true. This is not about YOU at all. It is about her wanting something, not being able to manipulate you into giving it to her so moved on. You should too. It really does sound like you dodged a bullet anyway.

                      Hugs, Laurel

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                      • Naptime yet?
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 443

                        #12
                        You stood your ground and good for you! From what you described that family would have been a migraine! :hug:

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                        • taylorw1210
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 487

                          #13
                          Definitely sounds like you dodged a bullet!

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                          • melilley
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 5155

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Laurel
                            For some reason this reminds me of a situation years ago that had nothing to do with daycare. Some people were treating me really badly for no apparent reason. It was upsetting me sooo much.

                            My husband was sooo supportive but I still couldn't seem to let it go. Finally, patient old wonderful him said "Why can't you just accept that some people are jerks? It is NOT you."

                            It's true. This is not about YOU at all. It is about her wanting something, not being able to manipulate you into giving it to her so moved on. You should too. It really does sound like you dodged a bullet anyway.

                            Hugs, Laurel

                            It is hard not to think "what did I do or what could I have done better", but you have to remember almost 100% of the time, like you said, it is not you! Still hard to let go sometimes though.

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                            • mia
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 271

                              #15
                              Good for you .... some one better will come .....

                              I SOOOOO HATE the lying as well.

                              I HATE show case parents even more .... ( ones who only have to children, just to say they have children, and don't give two hoots other wise...)

                              Sorry...

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