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  • Kabob
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 1106

    Super Concerned

    So this family that suddenly has been having issues following policies sent their 2 month old baby here today after she apparently didn't eat all weekend and slept all weekend. Of course dcd didn't mention this at drop off but said that she's been coughing so bad that she's been coughing up all her milk. Shortly after he left I put her down for a nap and she hasn't been up since. I got worried and offered her bottles at the usual times and her diaper has remained dry. If I try to wake her she'll scream and fall back to sleep mid screaming. She'll cough sometimes and that will wake her up long enough to scream in pain.

    So I called dcm and she said this has been going on a weekend and she figured it was the remnants of the flu but she said she couldn't leave work since she wants to save her time off but promised to bring baby to the ER after work. I said no...if she doesn't come then I'm calling dcd now.

    I just feel bad for baby and worry I'm over thinking this. But this baby's sister has a confirmed case of the flu...and my policy says if a baby won't eat and is acting lethargic then they must go home...
  • melilley
    Daycare.com Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 5155

    #2
    Originally posted by Kabob

    So I called dcm and she said this has been going on a weekend and she figured it was the remnants of the flu but she said she couldn't leave work since she wants to save her time off but promised to bring baby to the ER after work. I said no...if she doesn't come then I'm calling dcd now.

    I just feel bad for baby and worry I'm over thinking this. But this baby's sister has a confirmed case of the flu...and my policy says if a baby won't eat and is acting lethargic then they must go home...
    Wth? She wants to save her time while her baby is sick!? And she's worried enough to take her to the ER after? :confused: It sounds like she's really dehydrated! No wet diapers is a big concern!

    Did dcm come?

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    • Kabob
      Daycare.com Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 1106

      #3
      No. Still waiting. Tempted to have term papers ready if they wait until their usual pick up time to get her (which is in 3 hours). Clearly she knows something is up and tried to slip by if she said she wants to take her to ER...but why wait?

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      • NeedaVaca
        Daycare.com Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 2276

        #4
        Originally posted by melilley
        Wth? She wants to save her time while her baby is sick!? And she's worried enough to take her to the ER after? :confused: It sounds like she's really dehydrated! No wet diapers is a big concern!

        Did dcm come?
        You are not over thinking this-I can't believe they were not more concerned and they even brought her after she didn't eat all weekend! Dehydration would be a huge concern!!

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        • melilley
          Daycare.com Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 5155

          #5
          Originally posted by Kabob
          No. Still waiting. Tempted to have term papers ready if they wait until their usual pick up time to get her (which is in 3 hours). Clearly she knows something is up and tried to slip by if she said she wants to take her to ER...but why wait?
          That's total bs! She's not even my dck and I'm mad!

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          • crazydaycarelady
            Not really crazy
            • Jul 2012
            • 1457

            #6
            Is there anyway you can slip the bottle into the babies mouth while she is sleeping and get her to take a little? She's gonna go downhill fast with NO fluid.

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            • Kabob
              Daycare.com Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 1106

              #7
              Originally posted by crazydaycarelady
              Is there anyway you can slip the bottle into the babies mouth while she is sleeping and get her to take a little? She's gonna go downhill fast with NO fluid.
              I tried that multiple times...each time she woke up and flipped out. She sounds so congested that I'm afraid she'll inhale the milk. I'm so mad that I took her today...she didn't seem abnormal when she was initially dropped off.

              Finally got a text from dcd...he's on his way. Finally.

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              • Kabob
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jun 2013
                • 1106

                #8
                Dcd picked her up and is taking her to the dr. Not sure what I should do about tomorrow. Waiting to see what dcd says about the dr visit.

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                • Blackcat31
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 36124

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Kabob
                  So this family that suddenly has been having issues following policies sent their 2 month old baby here today after she apparently didn't eat all weekend and slept all weekend. Of course dcd didn't mention this at drop off but said that she's been coughing so bad that she's been coughing up all her milk. Shortly after he left I put her down for a nap and she hasn't been up since. I got worried and offered her bottles at the usual times and her diaper has remained dry. If I try to wake her she'll scream and fall back to sleep mid screaming. She'll cough sometimes and that will wake her up long enough to scream in pain.

                  So I called dcm and she said this has been going on a weekend and she figured it was the remnants of the flu but she said she couldn't leave work since she wants to save her time off but promised to bring baby to the ER after work. I said no...if she doesn't come then I'm calling dcd now.

                  I just feel bad for baby and worry I'm over thinking this. But this baby's sister has a confirmed case of the flu...and my policy says if a baby won't eat and is acting lethargic then they must go home...
                  Due to the severity of the Flu, I require ALL family members and siblings to be excluded if anyone in the house has the flu.

                  Colds and other common illnesses are okay and not something I exclude the whole family for but the flu...absolutely.

                  I also send a child home if ANY of their activity is abnormal or outside the normal range for them.

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                  • Blackcat31
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 36124

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kabob
                    Dcd picked her up and is taking her to the dr. Not sure what I should do about tomorrow. Waiting to see what dcd says about the dr visit.
                    ANY TIME a child is sent home from my care they are automatically excluded for 48 hours.

                    If a parent keeps them home on their own, it's only a 24 hour exclusion.

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                    • mountainside13
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 777

                      #11
                      Poor baby! That is really scary! Babies that young go down hill really fast!

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                      • Unregistered

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Kabob
                        So this family that suddenly has been having issues following policies sent their 2 month old baby here today after she apparently didn't eat all weekend and slept all weekend. Of course dcd didn't mention this at drop off but said that she's been coughing so bad that she's been coughing up all her milk. Shortly after he left I put her down for a nap and she hasn't been up since. I got worried and offered her bottles at the usual times and her diaper has remained dry. If I try to wake her she'll scream and fall back to sleep mid screaming. She'll cough sometimes and that will wake her up long enough to scream in pain.

                        So I called dcm and she said this has been going on a weekend and she figured it was the remnants of the flu but she said she couldn't leave work since she wants to save her time off but promised to bring baby to the ER after work. I said no...if she doesn't come then I'm calling dcd now.

                        I just feel bad for baby and worry I'm over thinking this. But this baby's sister has a confirmed case of the flu...and my policy says if a baby won't eat and is acting lethargic then they must go home...

                        The baby has been dry the whole day? The mom needs to get the baby to the doctor asap! That baby's dehydrated and refusing to drink!

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                        • Kabob
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 1106

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Blackcat31
                          Due to the severity of the Flu, I require ALL family members and siblings to be excluded if anyone in the house has the flu.

                          Colds and other common illnesses are okay and not something I exclude the whole family for but the flu...absolutely.

                          I also send a child home if ANY of their activity is abnormal or outside the normal range for them.
                          Thanks for the insight! Lesson learned. This baby has been on the verge of something since last week...not quite running a fever (99.8) but not quite healthy. And I'm pregnant so this flu thing is scary for me...I got it while pregnant with ds and ended up in the hospital for a few days.

                          I'll tell them I'm excluding. She's not getting better but worse. I know they'll be upset since they already missed a chunk of work for dcg but meh...this is too much worry...

                          I'm already fighting something myself since last week. Not running a fever either but haven't felt good. Another dcm picked up and told me I look terrible. Gee thanks. I felt bad enough since ds was sitting on the couch watching Fantasia and eating granola. Urgh.

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                          • Blackcat31
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 36124

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Kabob
                            Thanks for the insight! Lesson learned. This baby has been on the verge of something since last week...not quite running a fever (99.8) but not quite healthy. And I'm pregnant so this flu thing is scary for me...I got it while pregnant with ds and ended up in the hospital for a few days.

                            I'll tell them I'm excluding. She's not getting better but worse. I know they'll be upset since they already missed a chunk of work for dcg but meh...this is too much worry...

                            I'm already fighting something myself since last week. Not running a fever either but haven't felt good. Another dcm picked up and told me I look terrible. Gee thanks. I felt bad enough since ds was sitting on the couch watching Fantasia and eating granola. Urgh.
                            I totally understand parents not wanting to take time off or not having the time to take off work, but I have to watch out for the group as a whole and can't concern myself with each individual families ability to take time off or not...kwim?

                            I just tell my families that they MUST have back up care for those times in which their child cannot attend my care. What back up care they have is up to them. A friend, a family member, a neighbor or another daycare....I don't care....it's ALL on them.

                            My DH has type 1 diabetes and the flu could land him in the hospital and I can't risk that. I also have several little ones who haven't had their full set of immunizations and can't risk their health and well being just to provide care for one child that is really way too sick to be in care anyways.

                            I would sympathize with the family FOR SURE but sympathizing with them does not require you to act. I would definitely tell them you understand that life happens and sometimes things are beyond our control but you are still required to put what is best for the group of kids above and beyond one child's (or family's) needs.

                            It's that simple.

                            I am group care NOT one care.

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                            • Unregistered

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Blackcat31
                              I totally understand parents not wanting to take time off or not having the time to take off work, but I have to watch out for the group as a whole and can't concern myself with each individual families ability to take time off or not...kwim?

                              I just tell my families that they MUST have back up care for those times in which their child cannot attend my care. What back up care they have is up to them. A friend, a family member, a neighbor or another daycare....I don't care....it's ALL on them.

                              My DH has type 1 diabetes and the flu could land him in the hospital and I can't risk that. I also have several little ones who haven't had their full set of immunizations and can't risk their health and well being just to provide care for one child that is really way too sick to be in care anyways.

                              I would sympathize with the family FOR SURE but sympathizing with them does not require you to act. I would definitely tell them you understand that life happens and sometimes things are beyond our control but you are still required to put what is best for the group of kids above and beyond one child's (or family's) needs.

                              It's that simple.

                              I am group care NOT one care.
                              I get this too, but if a DCP called me and told me my baby was bone dry and something was up, I'd put work aside, and my desire to save my time off aside, and get my kid to a dr or hospital immediately. This isn't like a small cold or cough, this baby is dehydrated. That can be very dangerous in children.

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