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  • ninosqueridos
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 410

    When dck's Are Spanked at Home....

    how do you discipline? I know for a fact that dck is spanked at home (we obviously don't spank here). Dck just does not listen and is not fazed by time out. Sometimes dck will cry in TO but then it's back to the same thing. Naps are turning into nightmares. Dck is waking everyone up with screaming, yelling, shaking the crap out of the playpen, etc. I tried taking away dck's loveys, blankies, etc. but still the same behavior. Apparently only spanking works (as dcm has said). WTH am I supposed to do?!?!? Oh and dck is 21 months.
  • DCMomOf3
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 1246

    #2
    Have you tried strapping into a high-chair for the TO and not visible to the other kids? Consisitancy is key. Stick to one way and never vary, and don't give in, you need to show him YOU are in charge, that is my advice.

    I would try a nap mat for a week instead of the PNP, even if you have to sit by him the whole time. I have a DCB that used to be vey loud and would shake the PNP. Now that he's on a mat he naps SOOO much better.

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    • MommyMuffin
      Daycare.com Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 860

      #3
      When my daughter was that age and she would cry like that or throw tantrums...i would set her in a "quiet" spot and continue doing what I am doing..cleaning, cooking. I would talk to her every few minutes..."_____ are you crying?" few minutes later "why are you crying ____" "are you sad ____?"
      I would keep the same happy voice too. "Do you need a hug___" and every 5 minutes I would go over to her and try to hug or hold her. She would eventually let me hold her or she would talk to me and calm down.
      It was usually all over in 15 minutes. Every child is different though I suppose.

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      • Blackcat31
        • Oct 2010
        • 36124

        #4
        A little of subject....I obviously do NOT spank but I had a mom recently give me a written notice saying she wanted me to spank her 2 yr old as a discipline method. I told her it was not something I could do and it was against the law and she said time out's do not work so since she was giving me written permission to spank I should be allowed to! LOL! I still said sorry no can do.

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        • mac60
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • May 2008
          • 1610

          #5
          Originally posted by Blackcat31
          A little of subject....I obviously do NOT spank but I had a mom recently give me a written notice saying she wanted me to spank her 2 yr old as a discipline method. I told her it was not something I could do and it was against the law and she said time out's do not work so since she was giving me written permission to spank I should be allowed to! LOL! I still said sorry no can do.
          It is so sad that it has come to this,,,,,outlawing adults to discipline children. No wonder society is in the shape it is.

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          • Crystal
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 4002

            #6
            Originally posted by Quincy
            Have you tried strapping into a high-chair for the TO and not visible to the other kids? Consisitancy is key. Stick to one way and never vary, and don't give in, you need to show him YOU are in charge, that is my advice.

            I would try a nap mat for a week instead of the PNP, even if you have to sit by him the whole time. I have a DCB that used to be vey loud and would shake the PNP. Now that he's on a mat he naps SOOO much better.
            Try strapping a child into a high chair for time out in some states and you'll lose your license.

            I do agree that OP should put 21 month old on napmat rather than pack n play.....he may be much happier and compliant if he has the same napping environment as the rest of the group.

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            • Crystal
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 4002

              #7
              Originally posted by mac60
              It is so sad that it has come to this,,,,,outlawing adults to discipline children. No wonder society is in the shape it is.
              So, you think we should be able to spank other people's children?

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              • DCMomOf3
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 1246

                #8
                Originally posted by Crystal
                Try strapping a child into a high chair for time out in some states and you'll lose your license.

                I do agree that OP should put 21 month old on napmat rather than pack n play.....he may be much happier and compliant if he has the same napping environment as the rest of the group.
                I guess I didn't realize, I was trying to think of a way to have the child notice what he is missing. In my state we can't time out at all until 3 years old.

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                • nannyde
                  All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 7320

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Quincy
                  In my state we can't time out at all until 3 years old.
                  ::::::

                  Not that it matters because time out doesn't work anyway BUT I think it's pretty funny that the ONE thing providers can do as "reasonable discipline" is now reserved for the over three crowd.

                  Sheesh

                  http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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                  • Crystal
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 4002

                    #10
                    I agree nannyde.....seems they are taking away any type of discipline.....if that happens, there will be alot of providers who go out of business. Even 2 year olds understand discipline, are capable of learning right from wrong, and need to be taught what is and isn't appropriate behavior.

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                    • ninosqueridos
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 410

                      #11
                      Thanks all for your replies. It's funny BLACKCAT31 - dcm actually okay'd me spanking and I informed her that it was against the law (mind you, dck was only 10 months at the time).

                      I cannot put him on a nap mat. I use my bedrooms upstairs (2 kids to a room) for naptime because there's no way they'll nap in my daycare room. And I cannot stay next to him as I have no help and I watch 2 infants who would be unattended downstairs.

                      I wonder if there are pnp "tents" on the market......

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                      • QualiTcare
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 1502

                        #12
                        okay - this is one topic i was always the blacksheep on in school because i don't think spanking is EVIL and NEVER okay. i definitely don't think that spanking is the best form of discipline or the ONLY form, BUT i also don't think that a 10 month old child or a 21 month old child can possibly deserve a SPANKING.

                        i never spanked my daughter bc she was basically an angel. my son got spanked bc he would try to take off running into the road/parking lots as soon as i parked the car. that kid would be unbuckled and trying to commit suicide in front of a vehicle before i could get it in park. he got SPANKED and i made/make no apologies for it. this was after i tried talking to him and explaining dead animals in the road, etc. what's worse? a small child ran over by a car or a small child crying bc they got spanked for running in the road? i'll take the child crying any day - especially mine. i had a debate with my professor over this - we actually ended up being great friends. even still - he's almost five, and he'll tell his sister who is older than him, "mommy said you have to wear your seatbelt!" cus she'll try to stall when we get in the car hoping i won't notice. even though he's old enough to get it, when we're outside, he's the first one to run toward the road! not to mention, if i have both of them out at the store or whatever and they start running around (like those kids you see in stores that you can't stand) i will tell them in front of God and everyone i'm gonna bust their um, bottom. i've never had anyone blink an eye at me for doing it, but i've seen people (including me) huff and puff and roll their eyes at parents who let their kids run around like wild monkeys. i sat and watched a 2 year old in a doctor's office smack his mom in the face over and over and she kept saying, "stop. stop. stop." stop my ass. okay, a little off topic, but this spanking thing makes me crazy.

                        with older kids who get spanked as their ONLY form of discipline, it's easy to tell. in my experience, they are used to being yelled out and spanked - so it might take a little while, but if you sit them down and talk to them nicely (something they aren't used to and probably never experienced) they will respect you. i worked in head start where most of those kids (if not all) got spanked and yelled at on a regular basis and they thought i was the nicest person ever. in your case - with a kid being spanked since they were 10 months old - umm. i don't even know. that mother is nuts. i would say just be consistent with talking to him and removing him from whatever situation he's in. DON'T give him any attention. he probably thinks unless you're yelling or spanking him - he hasn't reached your "point" yet. he'll realize you aren't going to yell or spank him soon enough and his "punishment" will be your silence.

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                        • mac60
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 1610

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Crystal
                          So, you think we should be able to spank other people's children?
                          Yep , in specific situations....The public schools did it for years and years, and it worked. When this form of discipline was taken out of the schools systems, all hell broke loose as the kids know that now basically nothing can be done for them for bad behavior. From what I see when I go out in public, no discipline and a lot of idiots, both parents and children. Someday people will realize today's way just isn't working.

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                          • melskids
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 1776

                            #14
                            WOW if anybody ever laid a hand on MY kids, they'd be getting a spanking from me!

                            i have spanked my kids, but nobody else is gonna do it, thats for sure.....

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                            • mac60
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • May 2008
                              • 1610

                              #15
                              I grew up in a large family, and there were 19 nieces and nephews between us 7 girls, when we had family parties, dinners, etc, we all took responsibility for one anothers children, and if they needed their but swatted and their parent wasn't around, we took charge of the situation. No one ever got beaten, abused or otherwise, and no parent ever got pissed because their child got in trouble when they were not around.

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