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  • itlw8
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 2199

    #16
    My guess there are several things going on. He is extremely smart in some area. possible there is asbergers involved. I would suggest they have him evaluated by you early childhood special services program

    the cents also likely made every one sit and said this is an A and BOring is right. They also thought everyone should do the same thing and sit at a table at the same time...

    They needed to adapt the activities for each child and not require them to sit an color a picture of an A .


    should you or would I

    I would take him for a trial but the parents would get him evaluated and services if needed. I do not use worksheets and I do adapt activities for advanced children and delayed children. Heck I already do it for a mixed age group it is not hard.

    A child with asbergers is a challenge along with any other of the alphabet soup but when parents and provider work together it can be rewarding.

    so for should you only you can decide that.
    It:: will wait

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    • MotherNature
      Matilda Jane Addict
      • Feb 2013
      • 1120

      #17
      I wouldn't take them either. Too many suspicious red flags for me. I'd maybe consider it if you were able to contact the other centers.

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      • TheGoodLife
        Home Daycare Provider
        • Feb 2012
        • 1372

        #18
        Originally posted by Blackcat31
        I can totally see how you might be worried about how well he would fit in and how easily he would adjust.

        What kind of hours are they asking for? If it were only a couple days a week, I might consider seeing if he would fit in, kids are pretty quick to figure out routine and consistency is much easier and predictable than overly permissive parents...kwim? Sometimes kids like that seem to actually crave it so you could be a great fit. You just never know.

        I am guessing the parents aren't being truthful about why he was kicked out of the other center(s). I have never heard of a child CARE kicking out a kid for being too smart :confused: If it were a "school", I would think they would just move him into the next academic group..kwim?

        Maybe you could ask permission from the parents to speak with the other centers for the "whole" story before agreeing to enroll. Tell them you want to get a better understanding of the situation so you can be sure you are equipped to handle his needs BOTH academic and developmental.

        If that isn't a possibility and you really aren't looking for a TON of work, I'd pass.
        They need FT. BC, would you mind helping me with wording for a letter to them? I want to discuss my worries, but am nervous to say too much and possibly offend them, KWIM? I'm not sure how to bring up what I'm concerned about w/o indirectly accusing them of not telling me the whole truth from the center. If you have any ideas for wording, I'd really appreciate it! But I really do want to have a better idea of the situations with the centers before I decide if I 'm willing to do a trial

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        • Blackcat31
          • Oct 2010
          • 36124

          #19
          Originally posted by Mama2Bella
          They need FT. BC, would you mind helping me with wording for a letter to them? I want to discuss my worries, but am nervous to say too much and possibly offend them, KWIM? I'm not sure how to bring up what I'm concerned about w/o indirectly accusing them of not telling me the whole truth from the center. If you have any ideas for wording, I'd really appreciate it! But I really do want to have a better idea of the situations with the centers before I decide if I 'm willing to do a trial
          Sure can! I'll get back to you in a bit... I have to think about words for a minute

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          • Unregistered

            #20
            I have worked in centers before and it takes a considerable amount to term a child at a center in my experience. So that would be a big red flag for me. It could just be that the child needs to be in a smaller group so he is acting out to get the attention.
            As for the acting out during the interview. This isn't a red flag for me. A large number of my interviews the child acts out. But once they start they are fine with mom and dad gone. Some have even turned into my most well behaved children! Most of the acting out was due to not wanting to leave! I have only declined care once from a child acting out during an interview. The 4 year old chocked my then 11 week old puppy! The parents did nothing. Most of my declines are due to the parents.

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            • Unregistered

              #21
              I would not put anything like that in writing, would just call them,

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              • Blackcat31
                • Oct 2010
                • 36124

                #22
                Originally posted by Mama2Bella
                They need FT. BC, would you mind helping me with wording for a letter to them? I want to discuss my worries, but am nervous to say too much and possibly offend them, KWIM? I'm not sure how to bring up what I'm concerned about w/o indirectly accusing them of not telling me the whole truth from the center. If you have any ideas for wording, I'd really appreciate it! But I really do want to have a better idea of the situations with the centers before I decide if I 'm willing to do a trial
                I PM'ed you

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                • Maria2013
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 1026

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered
                  It could just be that the child needs to be in a smaller group so he is acting out to get the attention.
                  that's why "I" (not suggesting op do the same) would have to at least try!
                  Like I said, I'd quit parents before even giving them a chance to stress me out, but a child, I feel I at least would have to try, ( more so if others have already quit on him) I would go in knowing and expecting to have to work hard with him, still I would give it a fair try and I feel that takes longer than 2 weeks

                  again this is if "I" had that interview


                  Melilley "child whisper" love that::

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                  • countrymom
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 4874

                    #24
                    I agree with unreg. it takes alot for a center to boot you out. There has to be more to the story than they are telling you. I'm wondering if he's aggressive and they are not telling you, thats why he may need one on one care. Can you call the other places and explain that what is going on, and also let them know that you work alone so if the child is physical you have the right to know or you can creep their facebook page too.

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                    • Maria2013
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 1026

                      #25
                      one thing I should mention is that I have my daycare space set up to accomodate children that need temporary separation from the group, do to inappropriate behavior, that's also why I'm so willing to take in a child no one else wants

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                      • SilverSabre25
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 7585

                        #26
                        I'm wondering if *they* didn't remove him from the centers, rather than him being kicked out. If they think he needs 1:1 care then they may have been unhappy with the ratio the center provided.
                        Hee hee! Look, I have a signature!

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                        • Hunni Bee
                          False Sense Of Authority
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 2397

                          #27
                          Originally posted by cheerfuldom
                          I have never ever heard of a daycare kicking out a child for being too smart. how is being too smart a problem? its not disruptive. if a child already knew the material being presented, no one would care UNLESS the child was then getting bored AND disruptive which has to be the real reason. Providers, especially centers, are not going to pass up a the income because a child is just too smart for their program. That doesnt even make sense. He's 2 years old, right? so the majority of the day at daycare would have been taking care of personal needs (diapering and feeding and napping) and then lots of play. I bet the curriculum and preschool time was very limited for age 2. I am guessing the termination was behavior related and must have been pretty bad if he got kicked out so quickly from a center since centers notoriously keep poorly behaved kids to keep up enrollment. i bet they said one small comment in reference to his behavior during learning times and the parents took that as the one reason for termination.....its easier to say "oh my kid is too smart and too special to be there" than to realize that there were other issues that the center did not want to deal with at all. did they say what the other daycare situation was? you said you would be the third provider?

                          getting kicked out in TWO days is just a huge red flag. I personally would not do a trial period. TWO DAYS. remember that when you make your decision.


                          Run far away.
                          Last edited by Hunni Bee; 10-09-2013, 11:11 AM. Reason: pushed submit to early

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