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  • delferka
    Daycare.com Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 126

    #76
    Can't someone just take care of a couple of kids these days. Everything is helicoptered these days. Most states allow you a couple of kids without a license

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    • sharlan
      Daycare.com Member
      • May 2011
      • 6067

      #77
      Each state has different regulations.

      In CA, we can only watch family members without a license. Or we can watch 1 family without a license. As soon as you mix two families you have to be licensed.

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      • DebraHeschl
        Daycare.com Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 2

        #78
        Here in PA..You can care up to 3 unrelated children in your home & still do as a business. If she has more than 3 than she is doing it illegally. I would just have a friendly chat with her & maybe you both can bounce off each other for support. It could totally be innocent.

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        • Unregistered

          #79
          Originally posted by delferka
          Can't someone just take care of a couple of kids these days. Everything is helicoptered these days. Most states allow you a couple of kids without a license
          If she was licensed she would be over capacity! It's not just a couple of kids!I know she has had 8 kids at a time, some of which are infants. By herself. That is not a couple of kids!

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          • Playtime Shelly
            New Daycare.com Member
            • Jul 2013
            • 4

            #80
            Originally posted by blandino
            Yes, it is illegal. Unless they are family members or in care less than 15 hours a week, even having 1 child is illegal.
            Be careful telling people what is or isnt legal as you don't know where they are, each state is different.

            I live in CO and I am not licensed, I am currently watching one child and will be taking on another next week. The state says that I can watch 1 non related child or 2 if they are siblings. I find that to be ridiculous and am willing to take a stand with the state should someone choose to report me. The thing is that many people simply can't afford licensed daycare.

            In the Denver area the least expensive brick and mortar daycare I found was $290 a week. As for in home licensed daycare they are getting a MINIMUM of $50/day/child and most of them have no openings for children under 2 because the state makes it very difficult to get licensed for 2 under 2. There are "Nanny shares", I love this one, that are getting $60+/day/child and aren't subject to licensing because they are "nannies". I charge $40/day/child, I have a contract that is flexible for my parents and I claim my income so that my parents can get the tax deduction.

            I think the OP needs to just keep an eye on what is happening a few doors down. Like she said the neighbor will probably report her anyway but I care for up to 3 children 8 mos and younger and there is no issue here. Everyone is fed, cleaned and safe. Any more than 3 though and it would be too much to handle so if the neighbor is watching 2 kids no big deal, if you see 15 like the other poster then its in the kids best interest to report them.

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            • Blackcat31
              • Oct 2010
              • 36124

              #81
              Originally posted by Playtime Shelly
              Be careful telling people what is or isnt legal as you don't know where they are, each state is different.
              .
              The person you are quoting KNOWS it is illegal because she is in the same state as the person she is posting about so I am pretty sure she knows the laws/regulations for her state.

              She wasn't telling anyone from other states what was and wasn't legal.

              You are right about each state being different though.

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              • Unregistered

                #82
                How to report an illegal daycare

                Not sure I want report this; however, my ex-girlfriend runs an illegal daycare in Hennepin County, MN. I worry because our daughter lives there and I fear for her well-being. Furthermore, this woman has alienated My daughter from me (that's for another forum) claims disability and has people working for her!? A real piece of work. So, how would one go about reporting this conduct? Any input would be appreciated. Thank you.

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                • tntsmom
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 57

                  #83
                  We providers work far to long and hard and take our job seriously, I do not hesitate, I turn them in! I see people all the time posting on craigslist "need a babysitter, stay at home mom looking to watch a few kids" I flag them! We are way way more than "babysitters"

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                  • Cat Herder
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 13744

                    #84
                    Originally posted by My3cents
                    I am guessing that men don't hold back either. They say it how it is. I know in real life they do most of the time.
                    Yet, they are respected for it. Women who do that are called ____. Luckily ____'s don't care much about that.

                    I report illegal daycares. Licensing is NOT the SWAT team. ::::

                    The visit will be a well dressed person, with a rolling bag, filled with resources and an offer of help to become legal.

                    Nothing scary about that.

                    I don't know it Blandinos neighbor is running an illegal daycare, but the first time I ran across the ad or yard sign, I'd call in a heartbeat. We are SUPPOSED to. It is about child safety, not hurt fee-fee's.


                    2013 Ugh, I should know better than to post without checking a date... :::: Oh, well... Blandino, how did this turn out??
                    - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                    • LysesKids
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • May 2014
                      • 2836

                      #85
                      I didn't look at date either

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                      • Blackcat31
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 36124

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Unregistered
                        Not sure I want report this; however, my ex-girlfriend runs an illegal daycare in Hennepin County, MN. I worry because our daughter lives there and I fear for her well-being. Furthermore, this woman has alienated My daughter from me (that's for another forum) claims disability and has people working for her!? A real piece of work. So, how would one go about reporting this conduct? Any input would be appreciated. Thank you.
                        I am in MN. Here is the contact info for your area.

                        To file a complaint or check on complaint records call
                        •Hennepin County: 612-348-3883.
                        •Statewide: 651-296-3971.

                        Other important numbers
                        •Child protection concern: call 612-348-3552
                        •Emergencies: call 911
                        •Unlicensed provider operating illegally: call 612-348-3883

                        Complaints are confidential

                        Hennepin County is required to investigate possible violations of child care licensing rules. This is usually done face-to-face with the provider.

                        Once the investigation is complete, one of these findings is made:
                        •Occurred: Facts in the complaint were found to be true. This could result in a correction order, negative action, or some other form of correction as deemed appropriate by the licensor, the county attorney, and the program supervisor.

                        A negative action would only be taken in the most serious cases.
                        •Did not occur: Complaint found to be false. Usually no further action is taken.
                        •Unable to determine: County unable to determine whether the facts alleged were true. Licensing staff might offer suggestions or corrections if warranted.

                        After the complaint is filed, all complaints are retained in the licensing file

                        The Minnesota Data Privacy Act prevents the county from releasing certain information about the complaint, such as any identifying information about who made the complaint. The nature of the complaints considered public information once the investigation is complete. State law requires the county to release the basic complaint information, the results of the investigation, and whether or not any corrective action was taken as a result. Parents can contact the provider if they want more information.

                        Providers have the right to give input into the process

                        The provider has the right to appeal a correction or negative action if they believe it is incorrect. Under the licensing rule, the licensor has the right to enter your home at any time the child care program is in operation. The provider may opt not to talk with the licensor, although this may result in a substantiated finding, since most often the provider is the primary source of information.

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                        • Dilley Beans
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Jul 2014
                          • 98

                          #87
                          Just don't go out of your way to piss off your neighbors. You never know when you'll need them. That said, are children in danger? If you think that child safety is lacking, you may have reason to call your local certification office.

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                          • toriskids
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Aug 2014
                            • 13

                            #88
                            Some child care in Oregon does not require a license from the Office of Child Care
                            Child care is exempt from regulation if:
                            *The provider cares for three or fewer children in addition to the provider’s own children
                            *The provider cares for any number of children from the same family
                            *The care is provided in the home of the child
                            *The care is provided by the child’s parent or guardian or a relative
                            *The care is provided on an occasional basis by someone who does not usually provide child care
                            *The facility provides a preschool program that operates for less than four hours per day and provides education to children from age 3 through school age
                            *The facility provides training on a specific subject such as dancing, drama, music etc.
                            *The facility is an organized club or hobby group providing short athletic or social activities, such as soccer, scouts etc.
                            *The facility is operated by a governmental agency

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                            • Unregistered

                              #89
                              I had an illegal DC two doors down also. She could legally take 6 and not be licensed, and I'd count 13 coming in the morning!

                              One of my moms was a social worker. She would talk to me about the place, # of kids, they never came outside, etc. she eventually called it in. I wasn't comfortable doing it, but I didn't ask her to.

                              That woman still gives me the evil eye 18 yrs later! It didn't help our neighborly relationship that people would wait till I had an opening and then enroll with me. That didn't bother me a bit. If she was doing a decent job clients wouldn't have left!

                              Good luck.

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