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  • TwinKristi
    Family Childcare Provider
    • Aug 2013
    • 2390

    #61
    Sorry if I missed this but how do you know they're there more than 15hrs a week and/or not related? Because they brought packs of diapers?

    And why complain and stew about it and not turn her in? Illegal/unlicensed providers should be turned in, why get licensed if you're never going to need to? Maybe she's been applying for a license and operating for now (still illegal) ya know? If you saw someone breaking into a car would you call? If you saw someone stealing from a store would you tell someone? And as long as you're doing what you're supposed to be, who cares if licensing stops by while they're in the neighborhood? At least you're prepared!

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    • blandino
      Daycare.com member
      • Sep 2012
      • 1613

      #62
      Originally posted by TwinKristi
      Sorry if I missed this but how do you know they're there more than 15hrs a week and/or not related? Because they brought packs of diapers?

      And why complain and stew about it and not turn her in? Illegal/unlicensed providers should be turned in, why get licensed if you're never going to need to? Maybe she's been applying for a license and operating for now (still illegal) ya know? If you saw someone breaking into a car would you call? If you saw someone stealing from a store would you tell someone? And as long as you're doing what you're supposed to be, who cares if licensing stops by while they're in the neighborhood? At least you're prepared!
      I don't know that - that's why I didn't & won't report until I know more.

      I have no worries about licensing stopping by at all. If she were permitted or licensed, it would be posted online and it isn't. Also, they can't be licensed because their back yard isn't fenced, that's how I came to that conclusion.

      And totally not stewing, I just thought it was very bold to do something like that. I am not upset in the least .

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      • daycarediva
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 11698

        #63
        Originally posted by Leanna
        Daycarediva, you are in NY too right? Where did you see/hear that?
        Right out of my registrars mouth. They are responding to CL ads posing as women seeking child care, sitting outside of houses at drop off-pick up times to count heads, that sort of thing. My registrar (who I LOVE) just was moved FT to the position of tracking them down. It is SOOO BAD in my area because daycare is on the high end. They just closed a woman down who had 6 INFANTS in care.

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        • preschoolteacher
          Daycare.com Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 935

          #64
          Originally posted by My3cents
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          the point is that you are trying to do it the right way! Get on the phone and find out what is holding up the process of you getting your license. Just because someone decides to jump off the bridge doesn't mean that you have to do it too. Have a good feeling that you are doing things the right way and see what comes of that- Sorry I don't like the mentality of what's the point. Since when has doing things the right way become such a choice and an inner battle.

          Don't get me wrong I do understand what your saying and how you feel- but life is not fair, but that doesn't mean we have to stop trying and stop doing right, just because it doesn't seem fair. I am far from perfect but for whatever reason your comment got to me, even if I understand how you feel and have been there.
          Oh, don't worry... there is no way I'm going to quit waiting and cave in. I want to do things right. I've been on the phone A TON... they aren't even returning my calls now. Just venting, not saying I'm going to start running illegally too. I think I met someone at a class yesterday who has some connections and can possibly figure out what's going on... fingers crossed!

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          • harperluu
            New Daycare.com Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 173

            #65
            Originally posted by Unregistered
            I think your just being a busybody and it seems incredibly ridiculous you're thinking if reporting based on a pack of diapers. Maybe she's donating them, maybe they are having a playdate. You have no reason to report based on that...what a busybody you are! Geesh!
            Running an unlicensed daycare is a big deal. Around here, if you're caught running an unlicensed daycare you don't get to just get a license, you are shut down. There are licensing guidelines for a reason. The OP didn't go hunting around trying to find dirt on her neighbors, she reported her observation and came here to make an educated decision.

            I find your name calling a little silly. And also oddly enough, anonymous.

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            • Leanna
              Daycare.com Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 502

              #66
              Originally posted by daycarediva
              Right out of my registrars mouth. They are responding to CL ads posing as women seeking child care, sitting outside of houses at drop off-pick up times to count heads, that sort of thing. My registrar (who I LOVE) just was moved FT to the position of tracking them down. It is SOOO BAD in my area because daycare is on the high end. They just closed a woman down who had 6 INFANTS in care.

              I cannot imagine trying to care for 6 infants simultaneously! Wow.

              Four years ago I had a mom enroll her 14 mo. old with me after pulling her from a home daycare where the "provider" had eleven children aged four and under! The mom was a first time mom and didn't know that home day cares had to be licensed.

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              • Unregistered

                #67
                Originally posted by MNMommy2
                It would be really cool if "unregistered" were not allowed. All they do is either lie about who they are or come here to stir up trouble. Sad. I'm not licensed anymore but still have one family (legally) so I still like to peruse the site.

                Anyway, I would definitely keep an eye on it, just to see if she really does seem to be running an unlicensed daycare. I don't think it is being a busybody, it is being a concerned neighbor as part of a community, not to mention an actual business owner who went through the right channels to get licensed! IF something were to happen under her care, who's to say people wouldn't assume it was you? KWIM? For example, "oh, did you hear about what happened at the daycare on Maple Street? Oh, yeah, isn't that 'Blandino's' daycare?" Even if you know it wasn't you, others may not, and I would have for people to associate my street with the bad daycare... Esp. if you are a GOOD, legally licensed one!

                Ha--and I hope you don't live on Maple Street, I just pulled that out of the air.

                I agree with you, and thankfully the registered users don't do any of that!!!

                Hopefully the OP will keep us updated if there are cars there every morning, or if this was a one day thing.

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                • melilley
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 5155

                  #68
                  Originally posted by daycarediva
                  Right out of my registrars mouth. They are responding to CL ads posing as women seeking child care, sitting outside of houses at drop off-pick up times to count heads, that sort of thing. My registrar (who I LOVE) just was moved FT to the position of tracking them down. It is SOOO BAD in my area because daycare is on the high end. They just closed a woman down who had 6 INFANTS in care.
                  Awesome! Awesome that they are tracking people down! 6 infants, I could not imagine-I love babies...but

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                  • Starburst
                    Provider in Training
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 1522

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Unregistered
                    Or you could be a nice neighbor, go down there and introduce yourself!
                    Um, I'm pretty sure she said that she already knows who lives there.

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                    • Starburst
                      Provider in Training
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 1522

                      #70
                      Originally posted by MNMommy2
                      It would be really cool if "unregistered" were not allowed. All they do is either lie about who they are or come here to stir up trouble. Sad. I'm not licensed anymore but still have one family (legally) so I still like to peruse the site.


                      That's what I was thinking was happening. I thought Michael posted something about that a while ago that only registered members would be allowed to post, but I guess he decided not to. Some people on here have even admitted that they log out and post as unregistered to stir up drama (like that whole "sister wives" thread that they had to close in less than an hour from the original posting).

                      Plus, I think one of the unregistered posters wasn't really reading OPs post, just skimming through and then making an opinion based on the little bit they did read. Or that they just found this site in a Google search and don't work with kids or know anything about daycare/laws and just want to cause drama.

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                      • Blackcat31
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 36124

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Starburst


                        That's what I was thinking was happening. I thought Michael posted something about that a while ago that only registered members would be allowed to post, but I guess he decided not to. Some people on here have even admitted that they log out and post as unregistered to stir up drama (like that whole "sister wives" thread that they had to close in less than an hour from the original posting).

                        Plus, I think one of the unregistered posters wasn't really reading OPs post, just skimming through and then making an opinion based on the little bit they did read. Or that they just found this site in a Google search and don't work with kids or know anything about daycare/laws and just want to cause drama.
                        Michael created a section where ONLY members can post. It is the off-topic section. Posters will need to be registered in order to post in that section.

                        The regular board will NEVER be off limits to unregistered posters as they too seek advice, support and opinions.

                        NOT all unregistered posters are rude or unhelpful. A majority have valuable content to add and are welcome to post.

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                        • Unregistered

                          #72
                          I have a similar but different situation

                          I did a search on turning in illegal daycares and this thread came up.Here is my situation.I know someone who is running an illegal daycare,if she was licensed she would be over capacity by 2 kids.All of that doesn't bother me too much, to each their own.I worked hard for my license but I also charge twice what she does in return.Heres what really bothers me-she has a criminal background for violence.I wouldn't leave my kids with her and I worry about the kids she watches.She also isn't even CPR or First Aid certified.I would never want her to know I turned her in.She said that one of the moms that had taken her child to her before threatened to turn her in so i don't think I would ever be suspected but is it anonymous?From a business standpoint if something isn't hurting anyone I could care less what anyone does but something about her doing this keeps me up at night.I don't want any of her kids, by the way.I am full so before you jump on me, realize I don't want her business.Im just concerned. What do you guys think?

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                          • Familycare71
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 1716

                            #73
                            Originally posted by daycarediva
                            Right out of my registrars mouth. They are responding to CL ads posing as women seeking child care, sitting outside of houses at drop off-pick up times to count heads, that sort of thing. My registrar (who I LOVE) just was moved FT to the position of tracking them down. It is SOOO BAD in my area because daycare is on the high end. They just closed a woman down who had 6 INFANTS in care.
                            happyface happyface

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                            • Patches
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 1154

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Unregistered:401893
                              I did a search on turning in illegal daycares and this thread came up.Here is my situation.I know someone who is running an illegal daycare,if she was licensed she would be over capacity by 2 kids.All of that doesn't bother me too much, to each their own.I worked hard for my license but I also charge twice what she does in return.Heres what really bothers me-she has a criminal background for violence.I wouldn't leave my kids with her and I worry about the kids she watches.She also isn't even CPR or First Aid certified.I would never want her to know I turned her in.She said that one of the moms that had taken her child to her before threatened to turn her in so i don't think I would ever be suspected but is it anonymous?From a business standpoint if something isn't hurting anyone I could care less what anyone does but something about her doing this keeps me up at night.I don't want any of her kids, by the way.I am full so before you jump on me, realize I don't want her business.Im just concerned. What do you guys think?
                              Call licensing and turn her in

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                              • MyAngels
                                Member
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 4217

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Unregistered
                                I did a search on turning in illegal daycares and this thread came up.Here is my situation.I know someone who is running an illegal daycare,if she was licensed she would be over capacity by 2 kids.All of that doesn't bother me too much, to each their own.I worked hard for my license but I also charge twice what she does in return.Heres what really bothers me-she has a criminal background for violence.I wouldn't leave my kids with her and I worry about the kids she watches.She also isn't even CPR or First Aid certified.I would never want her to know I turned her in.She said that one of the moms that had taken her child to her before threatened to turn her in so i don't think I would ever be suspected but is it anonymous?From a business standpoint if something isn't hurting anyone I could care less what anyone does but something about her doing this keeps me up at night.I don't want any of her kids, by the way.I am full so before you jump on me, realize I don't want her business.Im just concerned. What do you guys think?
                                Sounds like a disaster just waiting to happen. I'd turn her in and I wouldn't care whether she knew it was me or not.

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