Pay For My Carpet?

[Crystal]

I would NOT charge for it. I would put her back in diapers, NOT PULL UPS, diapers, protest or not.

How old is she? You say she does it on purpose for attention, but unless she is a much older than normal potty trainee, I would think it was NOT on purpose. This is one of my pet peeves. The vast majority of children are NOT going to intentionally potty themselves for attention. They may not be developmentally ready for potty training, but to say she does it for attention is a leap, IMO. Laying down and having an accident at naptime is probably the most "comfortable" time for her, which is why she does it at that time. It sounds to me that she is in a diaper or pull up at that time, so it shouldn't really be an issue then. Just change her as you would any other child in a diaper and leave it at that.

As the parent, if I were presented with a bill, I would be asking where you were that she had the opportunity to get it all over the rug. I am not sure if you mean she smeared it on the rug, rolled around in it or what, so I am assuming that she made a mess out of it in some fashion, which would indicate that she was not being adequately supervise to prevent it. Now, if she was simply playing and it leaked out of her pants, and she did not play in it, that would be different, but I still would not expect, as a parent, to be billed for a new rug.

As the provider, I understand your frustration and I would insist on Diapers until fully trained at home. No ifs, ands or buts. When she is trained then she can wear underwear at daycare. It sounds as they are pressuring her to train early and she will NOT be successful when she is being pushed, so let them deal with it at home and leave you out of it.

[Unregistered]

Would you charge a parent for a carpet cleaning if their child pooped all over themselves, and it got all over the carpet, while learning to use the potty? I didn't charge in this instance, but used my steam cleaner, which didn't work, and paid for a professional cleaning out of pocket. Just today, this same child had a BM in underwear at rest time (does this for attention), and it also got all over the bathroom carpet. The first time dcg did this, I threw out the carpet- I was really grossed out. Today, I'm thinking of charging them for a replacement. Would you charge to replace it, or eat the cost figuring it's part of this type of business?

If they are over age 3 and did it on purpose I would! I had a little brat of a child that did that to me. If you think I was nice to him afterward, I wasn't nor was I very nice to mom and dad who babied him. He got it EVERYWHERE! I don't think that POOP all over the place is "part of the business" normal wear and tear type stuff, but a kid trying to get attention by manipulating you with his BM's is NOT normal business. I didn't go in the bathroom after my children after age 3 unless they needed help which they had to ask for. I will check after a couple minutes, but believe me kids can be FAST!

[Shell]

I had a chat with dcm at pick up, and mentioned to her that dcg does so well during the day with asking/using the potty, that this seems to be a nap time issue. Dcm said that they sometimes use diapers at rest time at home-which was news to me, since she told me she is fully underwear trained at home, and that she even gets up in the middle of the night to go poop! So, they are absolutely contributing to dcg's potty training confusion. So, I decided she is going in a diaper at rest time for now, and dcm complied.
Hopefully, adopting the accident free for two week policy will prevent any future poop/carpet incidences
Thank you all for your wisdom and suggestions!

[NeedaVaca]

How is wearing a diaper during rest time or while sleeping potty training confusion? Many kids are deep sleepers and don't wake up to use the restroom. This can last even up to age 5-6 for some kids.

[nannyde]

I had a chat with dcm at pick up, and mentioned to her that dcg does so well during the day with asking/using the potty, that this seems to be a nap time issue. Dcm said that they sometimes use diapers at rest time at home-which was news to me, since she told me she is fully underwear trained at home, and that she even gets up in the middle of the night to go poop! So, they are absolutely contributing to dcg's potty training confusion. So, I decided she is going in a diaper at rest time for now, and dcm complied.
Hopefully, adopting the accident free for two week policy will prevent any future poop/carpet incidences
Thank you all for your wisdom and suggestions!

They are lying to you. They have been lying to you from the go. They have one problem and that is keeping the lies straight. They don't have a problem with her destroying your property. They don't have a problem with her taking a disproportionate amount of your time for cleaning and talking with them. They want to proclaim their child is potty trained and they don't want to spend their money on diapers.

Set up your own rules on diapers and don't base them on parents words. You have seen how expensive that is so don't allow it again.

[Shell]

They are lying to you. They have been lying to you from the go. They have one problem and that is keeping the lies straight. They don't have a problem with her destroying your property. They don't have a problem with her taking a disproportionate amount of your time for cleaning and talking with them. They want to proclaim their child is potty trained and they don't want to spend their money on diapers.

Set up your own rules on diapers and don't base them on parents words. You have seen how expensive that is so don't allow it again.

I think you nailed it! This is exactly how I was feeling about it all.

[Shell]

How is wearing a diaper during rest time or while sleeping potty training confusion? Many kids are deep sleepers and don't wake up to use the restroom. This can last even up to age 5-6 for some kids.

Agreed. I think she is confused about when she should wear a diaper since sometimes she gets one at nap at home, and sometimes she doesn't.

[Lucy]

Would you charge a parent for a carpet cleaning if their child pooped all over themselves, and it got all over the carpet, while learning to use the potty?

No...

[Play Care]

I would NOT charge for it. I would put her back in diapers, NOT PULL UPS, diapers, protest or not.

How old is she? You say she does it on purpose for attention, but unless she is a much older than normal potty trainee, I would think it was NOT on purpose. This is one of my pet peeves. The vast majority of children are NOT going to intentionally potty themselves for attention. They may not be developmentally ready for potty training, but to say she does it for attention is a leap, IMO. Laying down and having an accident at naptime is probably the most "comfortable" time for her, which is why she does it at that time. It sounds to me that she is in a diaper or pull up at that time, so it shouldn't really be an issue then. Just change her as you would any other child in a diaper and leave it at that.

As the parent, if I were presented with a bill, I would be asking where you were that she had the opportunity to get it all over the rug. I am not sure if you mean she smeared it on the rug, rolled around in it or what, so I am assuming that she made a mess out of it in some fashion, which would indicate that she was not being adequately supervise to prevent it. Now, if she was simply playing and it leaked out of her pants, and she did not play in it, that would be different, but I still would not expect, as a parent, to be billed for a new rug.

As the provider, I understand your frustration and I would insist on Diapers until fully trained at home. No ifs, ands or buts. When she is trained then she can wear underwear at daycare. It sounds as they are pressuring her to train early and she will NOT be successful when she is being pushed, so let them deal with it at home and leave you out of it.

This was my first thought when I read the OP. I do know there are situations in which I WOULD require payment for ruined carpet/furniture due to accidents, but in the case of parents willfully disobeying my rules regarding protective pants in the first few phases of potty training (ie: sending newly trained kids in undies without telling me in hopes I'll be pleasantly surprised when their child uses the bathroom on their own. Usually I'm surprised but not in a pleasant way. Sigh.) It does sound that the parents are telling the provider one thing and doing another (telling the provider that the child is completely in underwear when in truth they are diapering her for sleeping) and that is something that should be addressed.