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  • Shell
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 1765

    Pay For My Carpet?

    Would you charge a parent for a carpet cleaning if their child pooped all over themselves, and it got all over the carpet, while learning to use the potty? I didn't charge in this instance, but used my steam cleaner, which didn't work, and paid for a professional cleaning out of pocket. Just today, this same child had a BM in underwear at rest time (does this for attention), and it also got all over the bathroom carpet. The first time dcg did this, I threw out the carpet- I was really grossed out. Today, I'm thinking of charging them for a replacement. Would you charge to replace it, or eat the cost figuring it's part of this type of business?
  • EntropyControlSpecialist
    Embracing the chaos.
    • Mar 2012
    • 7466

    #2
    Are they aware that this has happened before?

    I would issue an invoice for a new carpet (or, if you are feeling generous issue them a warning this time) and insist that the child wear plastic pants over their underwear for AT LEAST two weeks after any accidents or go back to using pull-ups/diapers. I have 2 accidents in one week and you're back in pull-ups for 2 weeks rule (or plastic pants if their accidents aren't huge). But, if they had a poop accident once they would NOT be wearing underwear here for at least two weeks.

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    • butterfly
      Daycare.com Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 1627

      #3
      I personally would never charge for things like this. As a parent, I would be totally ticked to pay for this type of thing. I think this comes with the job. It's frustrating, but it is what it is.

      I'm sure others will tell you to charge the parents, but I never would....

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      • melilley
        Daycare.com Member
        • Oct 2012
        • 5155

        #4
        If a child pooped all over my carpet more than once, I would not let them wear underwear until they can control themselves and go in the toilet. I'm not sure if I would charge them, but they definitely would not be wearing underwear in my house! I have a rule that they need to be accident free for two weeks before they can wear underwear here.
        I would revise my potty training rules before all of your carpet is ruined!
        Good luck!

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        • Square one
          Daycare.com Member
          • Aug 2013
          • 16

          #5
          I would require the child to be in pull-ups until the time I decide they are fully potty trained. I had this happen a few years back my dcg urinated on my couch, twice. The first time I paid to have it professionally cleaned, after the second time (just a few weeks later) I threw it out. That's when I decided pull-ups only!
          Remember to save all of your receipts for tax time

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          • mamac
            Tantrum Negotiator
            • Jan 2013
            • 772

            #6
            Originally posted by butterfly
            I personally would never charge for things like this. As a parent, I would be totally ticked to pay for this type of thing. I think this comes with the job. It's frustrating, but it is what it is.

            I'm sure others will tell you to charge the parents, but I never would....
            I agree with this as long as the parents are willing to follow your requests regarding proper clothing, etc during potty training.

            If they continually disregard requests or your rules for PTing (not wearing a liner, no pull ups, whatever) then I would give a warning first and then charge after that.

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            • blandino
              Daycare.com member
              • Sep 2012
              • 1613

              #7
              Originally posted by butterfly
              I personally would never charge for things like this. As a parent, I would be totally ticked to pay for this type of thing. I think this comes with the job. It's frustrating, but it is what it is.

              I'm sure others will tell you to charge the parents, but I never would....
              To me, little stains and tears are part of the job. A BM accident that was spread all over the carpet, and it sounds like it was on purpose (done for attention), would be a whole new issue to me. I have in my contract that any deliberate damage is the financial responsibility of the parents. They could argue that it wasn't deliberate, but then again it really shouldn't have spread that far if it were just a BM accident. If they argued that it wasn't deliberate, I would say that the child isn't PT then, and just like ECS said, have the child wear plastic covers until teu go two weeks without an accident.

              Maybe invoice them for a professional carpet cleaning.

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              • Play Care
                Daycare.com Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 6642

                #8
                Originally posted by mamac
                I agree with this as long as the parents are willing to follow your requests regarding proper clothing, etc during potty training.

                If they continually disregard requests or your rules for PTing (not wearing a liner, no pull ups, whatever) then I would give a warning first and then charge after that.


                In this case the only way I would charge is if there were blatant disregard for policy. The *first* time it happened I would have put the child back in pull ups. I have a parent now who didn't want his child in pull ups, but she has way too many accidents for me to be comfortable without them. I told him that he could send her without, but I would be charging him for any clean up fees or replacement fees for ruined furniture. He sends in the pull ups

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                • Laurel
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 3218

                  #9
                  Originally posted by melilley
                  If a child pooped all over my carpet more than once, I would not let them wear underwear until they can control themselves and go in the toilet. I'm not sure if I would charge them, but they definitely would not be wearing underwear in my house! I have a rule that they need to be accident free for two weeks before they can wear underwear here.
                  I would revise my potty training rules before all of your carpet is ruined!
                  Good luck!


                  Laurel

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                  • Blackcat31
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 36124

                    #10
                    My handbook specifically states that normal wear and tear of furniture, environment and toys are natural and expected. HOWEVER, any blatant disregard for these things will result in the parent having to pay for the replacement, cleaning and/or repair.

                    After the first incident, the child would have not been allowed to be in underwear until they remained accident free for two full weeks AT child care.

                    If he did it again, I would again go back to pull ups/diapers until accident free for 2 weeks.

                    The third time, I would require diapers/pull ups for 30 days.

                    Eww!

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                    • Shell
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 1765

                      #11
                      Ugh, her parents are so difficult! They are so proud of her for potty training early (she's the youngest here, and all the other kids trained early, too), that I know they are going to put up a fight about going back to pull-ups. I have nothing in my handbook about this since everyone else potty trained without incident.

                      Whenever she poops during rest time, whether it's in a pull-up or underwear, they act shocked and say she never does it at home. One time they slipped up, and admitted it happens at home, so now I know it happens there too.

                      She just started this today after a 3 day weekend home- I bet she did it with them at home and got lots of attention for it! I can't say getting it on my carpet is on purpose, but it always happens. Today, I was getting a changing pad out, she pulled down her pants before I could stop her, and you know the rest

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                      • Blackcat31
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 36124

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mrsmichelle
                        Ugh, her parents are so difficult! They are so proud of her for potty training early (she's the youngest here, and all the other kids trained early, too), that I know they are going to put up a fight about going back to pull-ups. I have nothing in my handbook about this since everyone else potty trained without incident.

                        Whenever she poops during rest time, whether it's in a pull-up or underwear, they act shocked and say she never does it at home. One time they slipped up, and admitted it happens at home, so now I know it happens there too.

                        She just started this today after a 3 day weekend home- I bet she did it with them at home and got lots of attention for it! I can't say getting it on my carpet is on purpose, but it always happens. Today, I was getting a changing pad out, she pulled down her pants before I could stop her, and you know the rest
                        It really doesn't matter what she CAN do at home. ONLY what she CAN do at daycare and obviously at daycare she isn't fully trained.

                        Kids can do lots of things in one place and not the other....

                        If they throw a fit, I would consider giving them the option then of pull ups until she ahs been accident free for a FULL 2 weeks at your house OR they can pay for PROFESSIONAL carpet cleaning EACH time she poops. After the 3rd time though, I'd tell them you are having the carpet replaced at their expense.

                        Let them choose which option they want to go with.

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                        • Margarete
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 290

                          #13
                          I don't think it would be legal to charge for new 'replacement' value. Only current value based on the carpet's age, and years of life left. That's the way it is for rental's and I would assume the same applies here.

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                          • Familycare71
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 1716

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Blackcat31
                            It really doesn't matter what she CAN do at home. ONLY what she CAN do at daycare and obviously at daycare she isn't fully trained.

                            Kids can do lots of things in one place and not the other....

                            If they throw a fit, I would consider giving them the option then of pull ups until she ahs been accident free for a FULL 2 weeks at your house OR they can pay for PROFESSIONAL carpet cleaning EACH time she poops. After the 3rd time though, I'd tell them you are having the carpet replaced at their expense.

                            Let them choose which option they want to go with.

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                            • Cradle2crayons
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 3642

                              #15
                              OP, sounds like its time to revise their potty training rules.

                              Here, they have to be accident free for two weeks before going into undies. And then , after the first accident, if it was not really an accident, they go back into pull ups.

                              However, if you don't have that policy, I'm not sure You can charge a parent for poop or urine clean up.

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