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  • daycare
    Advanced Daycare.com *********
    • Feb 2011
    • 16259

    Do You Have Any Experience With.....

    So as of yesterday, I was ready to start September off at full capacity. THen today happened....UGH

    One of my long term clients is having money issues and of course I am getting the short end of the stick. AGAIN.

    DCF has 2 kids in my care. They want to go from full time to part time, but they want both of the kids to share a full time spot.

    So kid 1 comes MWF
    Kid 2 comes Tu Th
    trade off days

    When they are not with me, they will be with G-ma....

    NOw I do have to say this and I am sorry if I offend anyone out there. BUT I can't stand working with families who their kid comes to me and is babysat by grandparents on other days that they are not with me.....I feel that grandparents are to be the ones to spoil them and love the bogars out of them, not try to parent them. The ones that I have now that are in this situation drive me UP a WALL.

    I have not told the dcf if I would even consider this yet. I wanted to weight out my options first. If I don't take this schedule, I do lose 2 full timers, which means that I lose one of my asst....... I am trying to figure this out....

    any input on this would be welcomed...thanks ladies
  • Cradle2crayons
    Daycare.com Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 3642

    #2
    Originally posted by daycare
    So as of yesterday, I was ready to start September off at full capacity. THen today happened....UGH

    One of my long term clients is having money issues and of course I am getting the short end of the stick. AGAIN.

    DCF has 2 kids in my care. They want to go from full time to part time, but they want both of the kids to share a full time spot.

    So kid 1 comes MWF
    Kid 2 comes Tu Th
    trade off days

    When they are not with me, they will be with G-ma....

    NOw I do have to say this and I am sorry if I offend anyone out there. BUT I can't stand working with families who their kid comes to me and is babysat by grandparents on other days that they are not with me.....I feel that grandparents are to be the ones to spoil them and love the bogars out of them, not try to parent them. The ones that I have now that are in this situation drive me UP a WALL.

    I have not told the dcf if I would even consider this yet. I wanted to weight out my options first. If I don't take this schedule, I do lose 2 full timers, which means that I lose one of my asst....... I am trying to figure this out....

    any input on this would be welcomed...thanks ladies
    Ok wow.

    (1) are you okay financially with dropping from two full time as far as money and going to one full time

    (2) how do you think it's going to affect their routine and their behavior because of their decrease in days

    (3) if you agree to do this... And then fill the now extra full time position, what happens in re months if she wants both kids to go back to full time and you don't have a spot, if this scenario applies??

    (4) what happens if dck #1 is sick and misses one of her two days that week. Is mom going to give yu trouble as far as pay is concerned??

    (5) is there an option to charge two part time spots instead of one full time spot??

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    • Blackcat31
      • Oct 2010
      • 36124

      #3
      Originally posted by daycare
      So as of yesterday, I was ready to start September off at full capacity. THen today happened....UGH

      One of my long term clients is having money issues and of course I am getting the short end of the stick. AGAIN.

      DCF has 2 kids in my care. They want to go from full time to part time, but they want both of the kids to share a full time spot.

      So kid 1 comes MWF
      Kid 2 comes Tu Th
      trade off days

      When they are not with me, they will be with G-ma....

      NOw I do have to say this and I am sorry if I offend anyone out there. BUT I can't stand working with families who their kid comes to me and is babysat by grandparents on other days that they are not with me.....I feel that grandparents are to be the ones to spoil them and love the bogars out of them, not try to parent them. The ones that I have now that are in this situation drive me UP a WALL.

      I have not told the dcf if I would even consider this yet. I wanted to weight out my options first. If I don't take this schedule, I do lose 2 full timers, which means that I lose one of my asst....... I am trying to figure this out....

      any input on this would be welcomed...thanks ladies
      How are you losing 2 full time daycare kids? If they are sharing a space, you would be losing 2 part timers and have only one empty space...

      I'd start advertising and fill the space with one kid who either attends all 5 days or pays for them.

      otherwise, your only option is to take the short end of the stick. AGAIN.

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      • Cradle2crayons
        Daycare.com Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 3642

        #4
        Originally posted by Blackcat31
        How are you losing 2 full time daycare kids? If they are sharing a space, you would be losing 2 part timers and have only one empty space...

        I'd start advertising and fill the space with one kid who either attends all 5 days or pays for them.

        otherwise, your only option is to take the short end of the stick. AGAIN.
        I think she means she feels if she doesn't agree to do what dcm wants, she risks losing both kids if mom pulls, thus leaving two full time positions open instead of just the one... Or maybe I'm confused... Not sure

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        • sharlan
          Daycare.com Member
          • May 2011
          • 6067

          #5
          Personally, I wouldn't do it.

          I just turned down a similar situation. The mom wanted the 4 yo to come 2 days a week and the 4 mo to come 3 days a week. The 4 yo would go to preschool 2 days a week and Grandma's 1 day. The infant would go to Grandma's the other two days.

          IMHO, that would be too many caretakers for the 4 yo. He would have been somewhere different everyday. Plus, Mom wanted to pay for one spot.

          Mom called 3 times, "But I really want you to watch my kids". Each time I told her no.

          IMHO, it's more a lack of consistency that it is the grandparents being involved. I watch my grandkids 4 days a week and their other grandfather does 1 day a week. He puts up with less than I do and I'm fairly strict.

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          • daycare
            Advanced Daycare.com *********
            • Feb 2011
            • 16259

            #6
            Originally posted by Cradle2crayons
            Ok wow.

            (1) are you okay financially with dropping from two full time as far as money and going to one full time

            (2) how do you think it's going to affect their routine and their behavior because of their decrease in days

            (3) if you agree to do this... And then fill the now extra full time position, what happens in re months if she wants both kids to go back to full time and you don't have a spot, if this scenario applies??

            (4) what happens if dck #1 is sick and misses one of her two days that week. Is mom going to give yu trouble as far as pay is concerned??

            (5) is there an option to charge two part time spots instead of one full time spot??
            great questions....

            I didnt think about some of the this. I would still be ok if they dropped to one full time spot. THis way I still can keep my asst.

            As far as behavior goes. I know that it will ALL go out the window. when they first started with me they came here 3 days a week part time together and it was not fun getting them on board. It took me about 6 months to get them used to how I do things here, so this is a RED FLAG for me.

            IF I fill the other spot and they need to come back, they will be SOL

            I would make sure they DCM understood no credits, no make up days. This is already in my policies.

            My part time rates for 3 days a week is only about a $225 difference and that was not enough savings for them.


            One of my fears is that drop off will be He!! because kid coming to me will be upset that their sibling is at home with gma.....................

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            • daycare
              Advanced Daycare.com *********
              • Feb 2011
              • 16259

              #7
              Originally posted by Cradle2crayons
              I think she means she feels if she doesn't agree to do what dcm wants, she risks losing both kids if mom pulls, thus leaving two full time positions open instead of just the one... Or maybe I'm confused... Not sure
              yes you are correct.....that is if they pull

              at this point nothing has happened...

              Sharlan....I could see it working if the grandma had schedules, routines and transitions. BUT these kids rule the house. They were very difficult children when I first got them, but they have been with me for 2 years and I love the heck out of these kids. They are so so well behaved for me now.

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              • Cradle2crayons
                Daycare.com Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 3642

                #8
                Originally posted by daycare
                great questions....

                I didnt think about some of the this. I would still be ok if they dropped to one full time spot. THis way I still can keep my asst.

                As far as behavior goes. I know that it will ALL go out the window. when they first started with me they came here 3 days a week part time together and it was not fun getting them on board. It took me about 6 months to get them used to how I do things here, so this is a RED FLAG for me.

                IF I fill the other spot and they need to come back, they will be SOL

                I would make sure they DCM understood no credits, no make up days. This is already in my policies.

                My part time rates for 3 days a week is only about a $225 difference and that was not enough savings for them.


                One of my fears is that drop off will be He!! because kid coming to me will be upset that their sibling is at home with gma.....................
                Then if you are okay with the financial aspect of it, what about being honest with mom about your concerns:::

                (1) lack of consistency
                (2) behavior
                (3) general policies and any additional related to this change

                And then offer a two week trial period. Especially since you are going to have to re do your contract etc anyway.. That way at least you know you tried and she knows you tried to make it work.

                And at the same time, interview to fill the spare spot. If the new set up doesn't work and both kids leave, they will only be leaving ONE spot for you to fill if you fill their other spot

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                • daycare
                  Advanced Daycare.com *********
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 16259

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Cradle2crayons
                  Then if you are okay with the financial aspect of it, what about being honest with mom about your concerns:::

                  (1) lack of consistency
                  (2) behavior
                  (3) general policies and any additional related to this change

                  And then offer a two week trial period. Especially since you are going to have to re do your contract etc anyway.. That way at least you know you tried and she knows you tried to make it work.

                  And at the same time, interview to fill the spare spot. If the new set up doesn't work and both kids leave, they will only be leaving ONE spot for you to fill if you fill their other spot
                  this is a great idea about the two week trial.

                  I will just tell DCM that because this is a whole new situation, that I need to make sure that it is going to work out. I REFUSE to take the short end of the stick here. I was pushed over in the past for this family and I won't let it happen again. the DCM can be super super sweet at times and then the devil at times. I have worked so hard with this family.

                  I did tell the DCM that I am concerned about DCKs behavior. One of the DCKs CANNOT function without a consistent routine. It's almost like he has OCD......If I put his fork on the wrong side of the plate he will FLIP out.................

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                  • Cradle2crayons
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 3642

                    #10
                    Originally posted by daycare
                    this is a great idea about the two week trial.

                    I will just tell DCM that because this is a whole new situation, that I need to make sure that it is going to work out. I REFUSE to take the short end of the stick here. I was pushed over in the past for this family and I won't let it happen again. the DCM can be super super sweet at times and then the devil at times. I have worked so hard with this family.

                    I did tell the DCM that I am concerned about DCKs behavior. One of the DCKs CANNOT function without a consistent routine. It's almost like he has OCD......If I put his fork on the wrong side of the plate he will FLIP out.................
                    If it were me, and I'd had them this long already, I'd agree, sign a two week trial. Explain to mom what happens if it doesn't work out. I'd fill the ft spot they left and keep interviewing in case their trial doesn't work out.

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                    • daycare
                      Advanced Daycare.com *********
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 16259

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Cradle2crayons
                      If it were me, and I'd had them this long already, I'd agree, sign a two week trial. Explain to mom what happens if it doesn't work out. I'd fill the ft spot they left and keep interviewing in case their trial doesn't work out.
                      I agree...I think that this would be a good move on my part. Business has been really really slow here. It has taken me a year to get to full capacity, so I have a feelings that I will have these openings for a long long time........

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                      • canadiancare
                        Daycare Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 552

                        #12
                        nothing to add other than I currently have one (I had 2) sharing a spot doing grandparent care on alternate days and once this other child is gone in September I will not accept this type of arrangement again.

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