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  • daycare
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    • Feb 2011
    • 16259

    #16
    Originally posted by My3cents
    I want to add one thing to this. Home life is a big contributing factor to all of this. IF the child is allowed to run amok at home then the child could have a harder time following directions etc... at daycare. IF a child is taught these things at home you see a big difference in these kids in your care. I do believe that children are able to know the difference of between being home and at care and the rules are different- most are, not all, but if it is chaos at home it does pour over at daycare. I see it all the time. If it calm at home you see that in the child at daycare.
    hmm- this is interesting as this child runs his house and wears the pants. The parents work A LOT!! So they often say I am too tired to parent. They even told me that it is easier just to give in so they don't have to hear them cry. Dad told me this, not mom. and dad is the main caregiver.

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    • MarinaVanessa
      Family Childcare Home
      • Jan 2010
      • 7211

      #17
      Originally posted by Blackcat31
      You aren't going to like my answer but ALL kids under school age are impatient. That is pretty much what drives them.

      It IS developmentally appropriate for that age to be impatient and not want or understand how to take turns or wait.

      That is one of the biggest reasons why so many people are against sit down rote-style education for children in the preschool years.

      Most don't have the ability, mentally or physically to sit still and wait their turns.

      If you do do activities like you are doing, I would do them in a manner that doesn't allow them to grab, reach or bump anything over. I would also make sure my lesson plans/activities are short and physically interactive.

      I would also do it in small groups and assign children to specific tasks so they know what their role is.

      Keep their hands busy WHILE they are listening to you or watching you. Give them some supplies to touch, feel and get acquainted with while you do the "adult" or "teacher" things. Talk with them. Ask continuous questions so their minds don't wander toward the materials you have laid out.

      Things like that definitely help minimize the risk of accidents and spillages.

      But it's also important to remember that ALL preschoolers have limited attention spans and BIG impatient streaks in them and I'd be concerned about sending a negative message to a child who IS acting developmentally on target and getting in "trouble" for something he is suppose to be doing at this age.......which is have brain activity and body parts that don't work in sync with each other.
      Well said BC.

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      • daycare
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        • Feb 2011
        • 16259

        #18
        Originally posted by MarinaVanessa
        Well said BC.
        I understand what BC is saying, but THIS is not what is happening. they are engaged and busy working on their projects. They have something to do, they have their hands an minds FULL..
        I have participated in the past in a program where I was video taped and then coached by a professional and I passed with all 5 stars....

        I just don't understand why I can't get this child to ask before touching or listen during project times.

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        • EntropyControlSpecialist
          Embracing the chaos.
          • Mar 2012
          • 7466

          #19
          He may, quite honestly, have ADHD. Sounds like my son before he was medicated.

          Just put ANYTHING you don't want him touching out of reach and make sure that him not listening isn't dangerous/going to ruin the fun for the other children/etc. You really can't force him to listen, especially if he truly has ADHD. His brain is likely elsewhere and his eyes are in the present oogling cool things. You could say many things to my son and even ask him the rules but his impulse control was lacking and so was his ability to actually FOCUS on the rules/what was said.

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          • daycare
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            • Feb 2011
            • 16259

            #20
            Originally posted by EntropyControlSpecialist
            He may, quite honestly, have ADHD. Sounds like my son before he was medicated.

            Just put ANYTHING you don't want him touching out of reach and make sure that him not listening isn't dangerous/going to ruin the fun for the other children/etc. You really can't force him to listen, especially if he truly has ADHD. His brain is likely elsewhere and his eyes are in the present oogling cool things. You could say many things to my son and even ask him the rules but his impulse control was lacking and so was his ability to actually FOCUS on the rules/what was said.
            This is exactly how this child is. He's always somewhere else mentally!!
            One I my Dcp calls him te dream weaver. His head is always in the clouds, except when he's reading

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            • Cradle2crayons
              Daycare.com Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 3642

              #21
              Originally posted by My3cents
              I want to add one thing to this. Home life is a big contributing factor to all of this. IF the child is allowed to run amok at home then the child could have a harder time following directions etc... at daycare. IF a child is taught these things at home you see a big difference in these kids in your care. I do believe that children are able to know the difference of between being home and at care and the rules are different- most are, not all, but if it is chaos at home it does pour over at daycare. I see it all the time. If it calm at home you see that in the child at daycare.
              Lol all three of this sibling set runs amok at home. I mean completely and totally amok. They eat when they want where they want. They open the fridge and help themselves to whatever they want 100% of the time. But here, since day two, I've not had the first problem.

              I agree that generally their home behavior does affect this. I guess these kids, who had never been to daycare before, are just adapting well here. Thank goodness .

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              • Cradle2crayons
                Daycare.com Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 3642

                #22
                Originally posted by daycare
                I undertand what you guys are saying. I NEVER expect a child to ever sit and wait for anything, except for the bathroom if it is already being used by another.

                I make sure that our activies are usually child lead and I stand by to answer questions or help them when they ask me for it.

                BECAUSE I know this child will be going to school in the fall, I am working hard on getting them to learn to wait for instructions. I will tell this child, lets focus on our (project). This child dominates both ends of hyper and a book worm. They love books, they bounce off the walls and they ask a million questions. Hes a sweetheart of a child, just often never in control of himself.

                Often more times than not, I will not invite this child to activities like the volcano, because I know that can't handle it. But with school around the corner, I want to try to keep him with the rest of the kinder ready kids. Not just for the learning aspects, but because of the social aspects.

                I BELIEVE that a child this age should be able to do a project like this.
                Absolutely he should be able to do what you are asking, unless there is something underlying going on. Sounds to me like instead of ADHD it's e home run by the child syndrome.

                In this case, I'd be extra super firm with him, make your expectations well known and EXPECT he will do as you ask. Sounds like he isn't expected to do ANYTHING at home and just continues the behavior in your care.

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                • daycare
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                  • Feb 2011
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Cradle2crayons
                  Absolutely he should be able to do what you are asking, unless there is something underlying going on. Sounds to me like instead of ADHD it's e home run by the child syndrome.

                  In this case, I'd be extra super firm with him, make your expectations well known and EXPECT he will do as you ask. Sounds like he isn't expected to do ANYTHING at home and just continues the behavior in your care.
                  I agree with you....I dont feel he has any label but just not direction or boundaries at home.

                  today went a lot better. I had him sit right by me at all times and kept everything on the highest shelf. I took his out last while he was occupied by the other parts of his project. he drove me a little batty asking wheres mine every 2 seocnds, but I would rather him do that than ruin it....

                  thanks for your help

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                  • Cradle2crayons
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 3642

                    #24
                    Originally posted by daycare
                    I agree with you....I dont feel he has any label but just not direction or boundaries at home.

                    today went a lot better. I had him sit right by me at all times and kept everything on the highest shelf. I took his out last while he was occupied by the other parts of his project. he drove me a little batty asking wheres mine every 2 seocnds, but I would rather him do that than ruin it....

                    thanks for your help
                    :hug: just keep doing what you are doing.

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                    • daycare
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                      • Feb 2011
                      • 16259

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Cradle2crayons
                      :hug: just keep doing what you are doing.
                      thanks....sometimes I think I have the wishful thinking that maybe there is something or some kind of trick that one of you can tell me.....I don't know it all and a lot of you have so much more wisdom than I. I have gotten so many good tips from this form

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                      • EntropyControlSpecialist
                        Embracing the chaos.
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 7466

                        #26
                        Originally posted by daycare
                        I agree with you....I dont feel he has any label but just not direction or boundaries at home.

                        today went a lot better. I had him sit right by me at all times and kept everything on the highest shelf. I took his out last while he was occupied by the other parts of his project. he drove me a little batty asking wheres mine every 2 seocnds, but I would rather him do that than ruin it....

                        thanks for your help
                        If that's the case, then naturally he'd be a lot further behind than other 4.5 year old children. Especially if YOU are the first place teaching him about impulse control.

                        I have an almost 5-year-old here who was never taught anything at home and only began here a few months ago. He has made drastic improvements, but still... he's a lot further behind than the children that have clearly defined boundaries at home and discipline.

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                        • Cradle2crayons
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 3642

                          #27
                          Originally posted by daycare
                          thanks....sometimes I think I have the wishful thinking that maybe there is something or some kind of trick that one of you can tell me.....I don't know it all and a lot of you have so much more wisdom than I. I have gotten so many good tips from this form
                          I have learned so much here too!!!! There are all kinds of tips and tricks. Ad sometimes its just trial and error.

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                          • daycare
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                            • Feb 2011
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by EntropyControlSpecialist
                            If that's the case, then naturally he'd be a lot further behind than other 4.5 year old children. Especially if YOU are the first place teaching him about impulse control.

                            I have an almost 5-year-old here who was never taught anything at home and only began here a few months ago. He has made drastic improvements, but still... he's a lot further behind than the children that have clearly defined boundaries at home and discipline.
                            yes.....this child pretty much runs the house at home. the parents are always telling me every time they go some where that something drastic happens that causes them to have to go home. They also told me that the child was kicked out of their karate class because they could not listen or should I say would not listen.......DCK is very smart and can make up stories like you would not believe.......just no ability to have any form of self control

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