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  • countrymom
    Daycare.com Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 4874

    #61
    I think thats why most of us are doing contract hours. Just because I'm opened from 7 to 5 doesn't mean you can come and go as you please, I'm not a store. She signed the contract to be there at a certain time, she didn't hold up her end, you waited for an hour and she didn't even call you. So you went about your business, just like the rest of us.

    lets look at this way, dcm has been contracted to come to work from 7 to 3, she decides not to come till 8 am with no call, she will be docted her one hour pay, and she could be fired or put on probation. Same thing as the above. You can't come and go as you please.

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    • mrsp'slilpeeps
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • May 2011
      • 607

      #62
      Originally posted by Crystal
      After going back and re-reading the original thread, I can say that I am not at all surprised and I would be surprised if you won if this goes to court.

      Good luck
      I'm confused as to why you have to be like this? She needs support, not criticism.

      I'm sorry but I find you to be incredibly rude to a lot of people on here and I don't see why you need to comment if you cant be nice.

      I feel that you are a bully.

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      • Crystal
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 4002

        #63
        Originally posted by mainemomma
        Ummm really? Because of WHAT reason do you think this???
        read the original thread on the topic and you will know why.

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        • MyAngels
          Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 4217

          #64
          Originally posted by mrsp'slilpeeps
          I'm confused as to why you have to be like this? She needs support, not criticism.

          I'm sorry but I find you to be incredibly rude to a lot of people on here and I don't see why you need to comment if you cant be nice.

          I feel that you are a bully.
          Support isn't always about telling people what they want to hear. We are all entitled to express our opinions, whether they happen to agree with the OP (or anyone else here for that matter).

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          • Crystal
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 4002

            #65
            Originally posted by mrsp'slilpeeps
            I'm confused as to why you have to be like this? She needs support, not criticism.

            I'm sorry but I find you to be incredibly rude to a lot of people on here and I don't see why you need to comment if you cant be nice.

            I feel that you are a bully.
            You're right, some times I do come off rude. I don't intend it that way, I just am sometimes appalled at what some providers say/do because they feel they hold some sort of "power" over parents and frankly, I have grown very tired of it, and yes, I say what I feel.

            When a provider intentionally leaves, knowing that the parent is likely to show up-as it was a pattern with this particular parent- and doesn't bother to send even a text or call the parent to say "hey, ya know I have an unexpected emergency, I have to leave for a bit" and the parent shows up and care is not available....well the provider got what she (the OP) actually WANTED....to no longer have the family in care and any provider who does the same can expect the same. To go after her for term notice fees, especially after stating she would fill the space from her waitlist....therefore she is out no money.....is, well, silly.

            We expect our families to respect us, to call us if they are going to be late, etc. WHY is it any different for us? I understand it can be frustarting when a parent doesn't do every. little. thing. we ask, but you know what? They are human, just like us. They get busy and forget, just like us. They PAY us, so for a provider to leave the home and not be available for care for which the parent has paid, regardless if the parent calls or not, is unprofessional and unethical, IMO. AND, when parents come on this forum, looking for information about FCC, this is the type of thing they see and they lump us all in to the same, unprofessional category.

            Pay close attention to the posts on the forum. The providers you hear complaining the loudest about high turnover, problem parents, etc. are the providers who are never willing to make exceptions, compromise or, basically, work WITH parents intead of AGAINST them. I am not saying to kiss anyones _ _ _, but come on, we gotta give a little now and then.

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            • Crystal
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 4002

              #66
              Originally posted by MyAngels
              Support isn't always about telling people what they want to hear. We are all entitled to express our opinions, whether they happen to agree with the OP (or anyone else here for that matter).
              Thank you.

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              • CedarCreek
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 1600

                #67
                I've read the original thread.

                I also would have called if I were leaving, however,I still think op would win if it was taken to court.

                Its not a matter of whether not calling was right or wrong. The contract is what matters.

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                • Crystal
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 4002

                  #68
                  Well, maybe I am mistaken. If I knew the EXACT verbiage in the contract, I might have a differnet opinion. In the original thread, that inquiry (which was asked several times) was never specifically answered, so who knows?

                  I do know, as a provider, I would NEVER just leave when children have yet to arrive....I would call first and as a Parent, I wouldn't pay for services not rendered after the provider is unavailable for care.

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                  • Crystal
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 4002

                    #69
                    Also, in regards to support, as Nannyde once said, support can sometimes be a dangerous thing.

                    I don't automatically support someone because they are a provider. I support what is right, fair and ethical. IMO, this provider displayed NONE of that in this parent/provider interaction, or lack thereof.

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                    • lovemykidstoo
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 4740

                      #70
                      Originally posted by MyAngels
                      Support isn't always about telling people what they want to hear. We are all entitled to express our opinions, whether they happen to agree with the OP (or anyone else here for that matter).
                      I have to agree with this statement.

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                      • LaLa1923
                        mommyof5-and going crazy
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 1103

                        #71
                        Originally posted by mrsp'slilpeeps
                        I'm confused as to why you have to be like this? She needs support, not criticism.

                        I'm sorry but I find you to be incredibly rude to a lot of people on here and I don't see why you need to comment if you cant be nice.

                        I feel that you are a bully.
                        me too

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                        • LaLa1923
                          mommyof5-and going crazy
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 1103

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Crystal
                          You're right, some times I do come off rude. I don't intend it that way, I just am sometimes appalled at what some providers say/do because they feel they hold some sort of "power" over parents and frankly, I have grown very tired of it, and yes, I say what I feel.

                          When a provider intentionally leaves, knowing that the parent is likely to show up-as it was a pattern with this particular parent- and doesn't bother to send even a text or call the parent to say "hey, ya know I have an unexpected emergency, I have to leave for a bit" and the parent shows up and care is not available....well the provider got what she (the OP) actually WANTED....to no longer have the family in care and any provider who does the same can expect the same. To go after her for term notice fees, especially after stating she would fill the space from her waitlist....therefore she is out no money.....is, well, silly.

                          We expect our families to respect us, to call us if they are going to be late, etc. WHY is it any different for us? I understand it can be frustarting when a parent doesn't do every. little. thing. we ask, but you know what? They are human, just like us. They get busy and forget, just like us. They PAY us, so for a provider to leave the home and not be available for care for which the parent has paid, regardless if the parent calls or not, is unprofessional and unethical, IMO. AND, when parents come on this forum, looking for information about FCC, this is the type of thing they see and they lump us all in to the same, unprofessional category.

                          Pay close attention to the posts on the forum. The providers you hear complaining the loudest about high turnover, problem parents, etc. are the providers who are never willing to make exceptions, compromise or, basically, work WITH parents intead of AGAINST them. I am not saying to kiss anyones _ _ _, but come on, we gotta give a little now and then.
                          She was supposed to contact me, not the other way around. She always contacted me if she was running late.

                          This is my business and I will not be walked on.

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                          • Blackcat31
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 36124

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Crystal
                            Also, in regards to support, as Nannyde once said, support can sometimes be a dangerous thing.

                            I don't automatically support someone because they are a provider. I support what is right, fair and ethical. IMO, this provider displayed NONE of that in this parent/provider interaction, or lack thereof.
                            I agree with this.

                            Yes, this board can be supportive but that isn't the sole purpose.

                            Sometimes posters come here asking for advice and when they don't hear what they want, they get upset or mad about it and start saying people are criticizing or being unsupportive when in fact each and everyone of us here has a different perspective and a different opinion about things.

                            I think support is just a perk of this forum but it isn't the purposeful intention.

                            Just because Crystal doesn't agree or see things in the same way as the 20 posters who posted before her, doesn't mean she is a bully or rude. :confused:

                            The OP asked for advice on a public forum. She got an array of responses about what "might" or "could" happen. The only one that really matters though is hers. (the OP).

                            Depending on the circumstances, she may or may not win in court.

                            This forum is not judge and jury. We are a group of providers that do things in a million different ways and have a million different outlooks and opinions on things.

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                            • LaLa1923
                              mommyof5-and going crazy
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 1103

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Crystal
                              You're right, some times I do come off rude. I don't intend it that way, I just am sometimes appalled at what some providers say/do because they feel they hold some sort of "power" over parents and frankly, I have grown very tired of it, and yes, I say what I feel.

                              When a provider intentionally leaves, knowing that the parent is likely to show up-as it was a pattern with this particular parent- and doesn't bother to send even a text or call the parent to say "hey, ya know I have an unexpected emergency, I have to leave for a bit" and the parent shows up and care is not available....well the provider got what she (the OP) actually WANTED....to no longer have the family in care and any provider who does the same can expect the same. To go after her for term notice fees, especially after stating she would fill the space from her waitlist....therefore she is out no money.....is, well, silly.

                              We expect our families to respect us, to call us if they are going to be late, etc. WHY is it any different for us? I understand it can be frustarting when a parent doesn't do every. little. thing. we ask, but you know what? They are human, just like us. They get busy and forget, just like us. They PAY us, so for a provider to leave the home and not be available for care for which the parent has paid, regardless if the parent calls or not, is unprofessional and unethical, IMO. AND, when parents come on this forum, looking for information about FCC, this is the type of thing they see and they lump us all in to the same, unprofessional category.

                              Pay close attention to the posts on the forum. The providers you hear complaining the loudest about high turnover, problem parents, etc. are the providers who are never willing to make exceptions, compromise or, basically, work WITH parents intead of AGAINST them. I am not saying to kiss anyones _ _ _, but come on, we gotta give a little now and then.
                              You've repeatedly called me unprofessional and you are incorrect.

                              You may wish to be owned and be a slave to your parents but I do not.

                              I will not wait around for my parents if they cannot respect my time. !

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                              • Blackcat31
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 36124

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Willow
                                Ever heard the phrase "Minnesota nice?"

                                Pretty sure I grew up and live in the part of the state that originated from


                                If I miss a doctors appointment or hair appointment the most I get is a phone call asking if everything is ok!
                                :::: I think it is statewide. It's like that here too.

                                My DD was late for a doctor apt one day for a follow up on a rash she had. She ended up missing the appt all together.

                                She stopped into Target later that same afternoon and saw her Dr there.

                                He stopped her and talked with her about the rash, looked it over right there in the store and walked over to the pharmacy with her and got her a prescription cream right then and there.

                                Minnesota Nice!!

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