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  • Willow
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • May 2012
    • 2683

    #46
    Originally posted by Blackcat31
    wait....let me get my jacket too...


    We'll have to get t-shirts made up, it's way too hot for the jackets today ::


    BTW - you have your ac on yet?

    I'm not going to lie, I'm extremely tempted but also don't want mother nature to get her panties in a wad and go all bi-polar again on us for me getting too comfortable. I still have a Santa up on top my china hutch for the same superstitious reason......I swear she's watching, just waiting to throw the next loop as soon as she thinks we've sank too far into the land of complacency

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    • youretooloud
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 1955

      #47
      Originally posted by Willow
      ::

      Apparently boredom equates to bravery and brazen-ness for ya !!!!!!
      It's probably how I am all the time.. But, now I have too much time to sit here and think about it.

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      • Oneluckymom
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 1008

        #48
        Originally posted by dave4him
        LOL things are so crazy here. I have no problem with people, we are supposed to love everyone. And anyone who is firm on their faith and belief is going to follow through on that belief and faith as directed by their own personal heart.
        Well said. I couldn't agree more.

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        • Oneluckymom
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 1008

          #49
          This thread has gotten WAAAAY out of control.

          Never meant to cause a BIG controversy

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          • Willow
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • May 2012
            • 2683

            #50
            Originally posted by Oneluckymom
            This thread has gotten WAAAAY out of control.

            Never meant to cause a BIG controversy

            Not your fault.

            It was a perfectly valid question!

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            • MamaBearCanada
              Blessed
              • Jun 2012
              • 704

              #51
              Originally posted by youretooloud
              How did you even read it that way?

              I mean, I understand wanting to start an absurd argument, but at LEAST sign in as unregistered to do it so it can cause the extra drama.
              This is so hilarious that I just choked on my coffee... And I'm not even drinking coffee...::::::

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              • Blackcat31
                • Oct 2010
                • 36124

                #52
                Originally posted by Willow
                We'll have to get t-shirts made up, it's way too hot for the jackets today ::


                BTW - you have your ac on yet?

                I'm not going to lie, I'm extremely tempted but also don't want mother nature to get her panties in a wad and go all bi-polar again on us for me getting too comfortable. I still have a Santa up on top my china hutch for the same superstitious reason......I swear she's watching, just waiting to throw the next loop as soon as she thinks we've sank too far into the land of complacency
                LOL! :: Spoken like a true Northerner..... I am terrified to do anything to set her (Mother Nature) off.... my snow shovels are still on the front deck and although tempting, the A/C still has it's cover on it because....well because I am afraid of her.....

                and yeah, t-shirts might be a much wiser choice.

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                • Lyss
                  Chaos Coordinator :)
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 1429

                  #53
                  it seems to have become more trying to find ways to poke at someone that's been bothering "you" (general) then posting on topic
                  Originally posted by Willow
                  Not your fault.

                  It was a perfectly valid question!
                  I agree, it just took a hard left into crazy town ::

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                  • EntropyControlSpecialist
                    Embracing the chaos.
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 7466

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Willow
                    Anyone else need some wine n popcorn??!

                    This thread has officially crossed the line into bat crap crazy territory....jeezum freaking crow
                    Pretty much.

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                    • jokalima
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 477

                      #55
                      Originally posted by EntropyControlSpecialist
                      I know of many people looking for care in a non-faith based program.

                      I, personally, run a CHRISTIAN program and it's very obvious. The name of my program has the word "Christian" in it, we pray, we learn the 10 Commandments, we read the Bible, we memorize Bible verses, we discuss things from a Christian viewpoint (such as creation), etc. I have many in attendance here who aren't practicing Christians. I've only run into an issue with one interviewing family who wanted to know if I "cram Christianity down the children's throats." ::
                      If someone doesn't value a Christian program then I'm not the place for them. If someone doesn't value a non-faith based program then yours might not be the program for them.

                      I don't run a Christian based program but do cover a lot of Christian Themes and activities. During interview I tell the parents about this, and i even have them sign a form where it says that they know that the child is being exposed to the Christian religion, we pray, we read bible stories and sometimes do monthly themes from the Bible, we love it and so far parents don have anything against it.

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                      • Laurel
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 3218

                        #56
                        Originally posted by dave4him
                        Funny. Actually having faith in nothing.... well ill never quite get that because as far back I can remember I believed in God. I believe that the things in the Bible can be practiced by non believers and get just as much good results as far as doing good things and being loving to others. In the end I believe there is only One Way.
                        I have faith in a lot of things just not in a god/gods. I have faith in my doctor, for example.

                        I really wouldn't ever see a need to use a Bible to guide me in doing good things or being loving. I have been doing it all by myself with much success. Besides, as I like to joke with my Christian friends, if I ever do something bad there is always jail. That kind of gives me some guidelines if ya know what I mean.

                        Laurel

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                        • Laurel
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 3218

                          #57
                          Originally posted by jokalima
                          I don't run a Christian based program but do cover a lot of Christian Themes and activities. During interview I tell the parents about this, and i even have them sign a form where it says that they know that the child is being exposed to the Christian religion, we pray, we read bible stories and sometimes do monthly themes from the Bible, we love it and so far parents don have anything against it.
                          Well that is great that you let the parents know. The form is wonderful. I would not choose that for my child but at least I'd know. Good for you!

                          I'm curious though. How is the above NOT a Christian based program? Bible stories, praying and some monthly Christian themes seems like a Christian based program to me. I'm not sure I understand what would constitute a Christian based program if the above doesn't.

                          Thanks, Laurel

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                          • countrymom
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 4874

                            #58
                            our schools here are a bit different than you guys in the u.s Here you don't have to pay to go to school. We have public schools, and catholic schools.

                            public schools don't do religion
                            catholic schools teach catholic religion

                            so my odd is in grade 9, she has always gone to the public school. well when it was time to go to highschool, she could go to any highschool in our boundry. I did my homework and she goes to a catholic highschool. Not only is it uniformed but they have a great academic program. Even thou we are catholic, it had nothing to do with our religion. She did very well in the religion program last semester, she had a 95 percent--her reasoning, was that she wasnt all bibled out !

                            you see, religion shouldn't have to do with anything. If they offer religion, fine, but you need to look at the bigger picture. What do daycares offers, the food, the outside time. Places don't shove religion down anyones throat. Everyone learns the same things, religion is just a different perk.

                            I just find it rude to say that such and such a religion is into satan. How do some of you guys know unless you are that religion. Sure I heard all sorts of things about different religions, but that doesn't mean it true. My dh is athiest, he thinks if he goes to church it will burn down, well so far it hasn't burned down.

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                            • youretooloud
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 1955

                              #59
                              Originally posted by countrymom

                              I just find it rude to say that such and such a religion is into satan. How do some of you guys know unless you are that religion. Sure I heard all sorts of things about different religions, but that doesn't mean it true. My dh is athiest, he thinks if he goes to church it will burn down, well so far it hasn't burned down.
                              But, nobody said that. Someone misread it, and then it got snarky. (I might have caused most of the snark)

                              The person was saying "If religion is not important to you, would you also choose a satanic provider?" It in no way meant "Any religion other than Christianity is satanic"

                              The point was, for SOME people, the religion taught IS important. It might not be to everyone, but for some people, it is important, and there is nothing wrong with thinking it is important. Because each parent gets to choose for their own family. Nobody has it 100% right for all people. Individuals get to choose, and their choice is OK too. Not choosing a provider based on her faith, does not mean they hate Muslims and are stupid or ignorant. (that was not you who said it) I just means a choice. To say "We have two schools, non religious and Catholic....we are catholic, but we didn't care about the religion taught".....but, you are Catholic, so obviously, the choice wasn't hard. You only had TWO to choose from!

                              I choose not to bring up any religion at all in my daycare. Because I have very few Christian children. So, we don't say things like "Jesus is the reason for the season" or "Play with this nativity set while I make lunch" or "Who wants to sing This little light of mine?"

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                              • Willow
                                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 2683

                                #60
                                Uhhh.......frankly I'm not even sure how to answer that countrymom......

                                You don't need to actively practice a religion to understand the very core of what it is.

                                Satanists are into Satan. I'm not making that up nor is it any sort of judgment. They are no less legitimate than Buddhists, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Muslims or any other religion is.

                                The ONLY difference is that culturally it's far less socially acceptable to ascribe to such dark beliefs. That's why I used it as an example (read -NOT A COMPARISON). Odds are not many parents would feel comfortable sending their child to a provider who is a Satanist. EVEN IF they don't preach or practice during daycare hours it still wouldn't sit right with most.

                                There is nothing wrong with that.

                                Just like there is nothing wrong with parents feeling opposed to exposing their child to any other religion or set of beliefs would be (or at least that's how I feel).


                                If my grandfather believed my grandmother needed to live a life of submission to him I'd hesitate to bring either my son or my daughter around him much too. Not because I didn't love him or respect his beliefs, but because I don't share those beliefs and don't care to impose those "values" on their impressionable young minds.

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