Saga Continues- Late DCM, I Wasn't Home..... :) She Wants To End Care...

[snowball]

Your situation is nothing like the OP's. Nothing. This was not a life threatening/ending emergency. This was a provider who wanted to prove a point, so she did. And I say this as a provider who HAS left my house as a family was pulling in because they were over THREE hours late and didn't answer my call to see when/if they were coming. I rolled down my window and told them that because they didn't answer my call/call me, I was unable to provide care that day (and that's in my contract which they had signed)
I don't think the client was a good fit for the OP, and the relationship probably should have been terminated before it got to this point.

But the OP had an emergency...she wasn't just proving a point.

[LaLa1923]

But the OP had an emergency...she wasn't just proving a point.

Thank you!!!


My brother's baby mom had dropped his son off and said "goodbye"!!! He's 4 months old!! I had to rush to my mothers to get him!

[LaLa1923]

This was the first time I had even ever met the little guy! 4mo old baby!! alone!!! wth!!!

[MyNana23]

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[Willow]

I have said this EXACT thing several times!! She HAS come unannounced when we were walking out the dooor!!

And you did what then? Admit to care or tell her that because she was late with no notice she'd have to find alternate care?

I'm sorry if I'm missing where you have stated you told this mom not only did her time management irk you BUT that the next time she flubbed you may not be available....

I didn't see where you explained to her future consequences?

[Willow]

I think I understand what you're saying. Provider could have said "if you're going to be late and I am not notified, I may not be here when you arrive". Am I understanding you correctly? If so, that just seems like an obvious consequence to me, and I think it might not occur to me to point it out.

Not much occurs to those with common sense, but at the end of a daycare career how fat does a provider's parent handbook end up being

We don't just say "Please pay in full and on time for care provided - thank you!

We say "Please pay in full and on time for care provide -OR- late fees can accrue, admittance can be denied, care can be terminated, I can take you to court etc etc etc


Should be obvious though right? So why spell all that out and not an issue like this?

If you don't spell it all out this is the type of stuff that happens unfortunately.

[Play Care]

Thanks Snowball...I'm sorry that I obviously mislead/offended Playcare...I was using the fact that the reason for leaving was because of an emergency..just as I had ... it was NOT to prove a point...it was an emergency..perhaps not life threatening/ending but still the same reason.....this is too sensitive a thread for me to comment any further...some people relish any reason to argue and fuss ..I'm a loverlovethis not a fighter so hopefully you all can have a nice day...best wishes on getting this "resolved' to everyone's satisfaction..::

I wasn't at all offended :confused:

I was simply pointing out that your "emergency" was an actual one. Obviously in that case I would have also left and not cared a bit about the dc families. I did read the OP and found her "emergency" to be rather convenient, is all.
She handled it as she wanted to and it's over.

[allsmiles]

good riddance to ppl that cant follow rules.. she would have kept doing the same thing (coming in late, no shows) over and over anyway.. you are free now LOLhappyface

[providerandmomof4]

I didn't do it to teach her a lesson. I had an emergency and I had to go. She has called or texted lots of times after 9am to tell me she is not coming. I don't think it's my responsibility to contact her, I've got other littles to care for....

Exactly! It would be different if you left before her contracted time...you didn't.
I personally, am fed up with dcp expecting me to call them,"hello...will little Johnny be joining us today, or were you keeping him home without calling again?" Ghesh!!

[Crystal]

It wouldn't be a big inconvenience for the parent either to shoot a quick text "we're running late, will be there around _________".

If I'm the parent, and the provider had just told me, and not for the first time, that she needs to be notified if I'm going to be late...I slept in or wanted an extra few minutes with my child or whatever, I wouldn't be angry if I arrived to find no provider! I'd be irritated with myself for not letting her know. Especially since she just asked.

The parent also cannot expect to dictate the providers time...I'll just show up when I feel like it and she'll just be hanging around with her group waiting for me. No.

Oh, I agree. I certainly feel the parent has some responsibility in this. She should let her provider know what's up, and I too would be annoyed. However, I would make it VERY clear, in no uncertain terms, EXACTLY what I expect of the parent. Also, if I felt that if the parent did not call and I decided to leave that I could do so without warning, I would CLEARLY convey that to the parent so she would not be surprised showing up to an empty house.

Regradless though, I feel that, as a matter of professional courtesy, the parent should be notified if the provider is going to be unavailable for care, no matter what the reason is.

[Crystal]

So the dcm can be rude/ignorant and NEVER let the provider know ahead of time if she's going to be late or not come but just let the provider have an emergency ONE time, have to leave and SHE'S the bad guy???

The day I was called to the hospital because my father was dying, I quickly called my neighbor to see if she could keep the kids I had here...I dropped them with her, raced to the hospital to spend the last 5 minutes I'd ever have with my Dad, and didn't leave a note on the door or call any of the parents...it was an emergency...was I ignorant or thoughtless for not calling?? Apparently -- according to some of the posts on here I guess I was ...cell phones weren't around then so I couldn't text..

If parents don't show up more than an hour past when they're supposed to be here, I would assume that they aren't coming and if I had things going on for the kids or a field trip to do, I wouldn't be calling or waiting around..why should that be MY responsibility?? They know when I am expecting them and if they make a habit of never coming at the usual time, then it's on THEIR shoulders to contact ME!

You are comparing apples to oranges here. The provider did not have this sort of emergency.

[Crystal]

some of you guys kill me, whats the difference between this parent not showing up to drop her child off and a parent who is schedualed for an interview and doesn't show up. I don't know how many times I have read how angry some of you get and how some of you leave the house when they don't show up. I have never read a person sending a text to the parent to see where they are at, so you can sit and wait. Whats the difference between the two. NOTHING. Schedual time means COME ON TIME.
Oh and who ever called the op unprofessional, your the one thats unprofessional for not supporting a fellow worker wether you agree with her disicion or not.

FTR....I haven't said that, so this does not include me. I have never has a no-show to an interview. And, I do beleive that the vast majority of provders with a no show interview WOULD call them to see what's up.

And, no I am not being unprofessional by not supporting a fellow provider. I support what I beleive is right and fair. I don't support every provider and I don't support every parent. It depends on the circumstance, not the person.

[Crystal]

I just wanted to add ...on the day my father died, my first thought was NOT to worry about if some parent was going to be "inconvenienced" just as it wasn't my first thought to leave a note on the door, nor was it a thought to waste precious time I didn't have calling each one...my first thought was: "I.AM.NEVER. EVER.GOING .TO.GET.TO.SEE.MY.DADDY.AGAIN. !!!!!!!

I have the world's most awesome neighbors...they took the kids in, called their parents, fed them, laid them down for naps, provided diapers for the baby...all with NO thought of payment or anything else...THEY were the people I felt bad for inconveniencing...

Of course not.

BTW, I don't know when your father passed, but I would like to send my condolences. I am sorry for your loss

[Crystal]

This was the first time I had even ever met the little guy! 4mo old baby!! alone!!! wth!!!

He was left alone, or your Mom was there?

And, that's crazy. Did she just abandon him, or did she come back?

[Crystal]

Going back to the original post, the Mom's reason for being late was that she was stuck in traffic. Do you not allow late arrivals due to traffic, or is it only if Mom hung out at home with the kid?