Sunscreen...And Avoiding Sunburns

[Cradle2crayons]

Last summer, I went through 26 cans of spray sunscreen, 2 bottles of lotion sunscreen, and 4 face sticks.

When we go to the beach or water park, I line the kids up in my back yard and spray them down. We spray again when we get wherever we're going. I also spray again after lunch.

I bathe the younger kids when we get home and then lotion them down. I have the older kids shower themselves and lotion themselves down.

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[Country Kids]

Star....this is not the first time you have posted inaccurate information about licensing regs in Ca. Please, do us all a favor and verify what you are saying is REQUIRED by licensing to be accurate before posting it. It is very frustrating when people post innacurate information based on what they have "heard" rather than what they have researched to be valid and reliable. And trust me, your ECE professors don't know everything.....really, how many of them have ever been a FCCP?

Thanks!

Chrystal, states change rules/regs all the time and not everyone knows about it. Might be the case here.

Happened last year in our state. No one except liscensing knew there had been a rule change on sunscreen till they were coming to our homes for inspections and having to tell us. It was in the new rule book that was put out in the very beginning of summer. My inspection was towards the end of summer but someone had told me about it which the licensor said was great and loved how we were spreading the word amongst ourselves.

Right now we have something like 54 rule changes being proposed. I called our local CCR&R about it with some questions. Guess what-they knew NOTHING about it and didn't even know a couple weeks later that there was opportunities for us to comment on us.

So maybe you just haven't heard of the changes yet, there is a chance of that. It does happen.

[sharlan]

Chrystal, states change rules/regs all the time and not everyone knows about it. Might be the case here.

Happened last year in our state. No one except liscensing knew there had been a rule change on sunscreen till they were coming to our homes for inspections and having to tell us. It was in the new rule book that was put out in the very beginning of summer. My inspection was towards the end of summer but someone had told me about it which the licensor said was great and loved how we were spreading the word amongst ourselves.

Right now we have something like 54 rule changes being proposed. I called our local CCR&R about it with some questions. Guess what-they knew NOTHING about it and didn't even know a couple weeks later that there was opportunities for us to comment on us.

So maybe you just haven't heard of the changes yet, there is a chance of that. It does happen.

We DO NOT have to have the parents sign a form in order to use sunscreen, boggie wipes, diaper ointment, etc. in CA. It is a nice form to use, but it is NOT required.

[Country Kids]

We DO NOT have to have the parents sign a form in order to use sunscreen, boggie wipes, diaper ointment, etc. in CA. It is a nice form to use, but it is NOT required.

Heres what I found when I looked it up for CA.

http://nrckids.org/cfoc3/htmlversion/chapter03.html (hopefull this comes through)

Look under the sunscreen portion-you have to scroll down aways I believe.

It does say written permission for sunscreen so why not use a form?

[sharlan]

That is not from CA licensing.

[Starburst]

Star....this is not the first time you have posted inaccurate information about licensing regs in Ca. Please, do us all a favor and verify what you are saying is REQUIRED by licensing to be accurate before posting it. It is very frustrating when people post innacurate information based on what they have "heard" rather than what they have researched to be valid and reliable. And trust me, your ECE professors don't know everything.....really, how many of them have ever been a FCCP?

Thanks!

Actually, as I have mentioned many times on this forum before, one of my ECE teacher was a FCCP before she was a director and she does teach a class specifically for family child care providers as well as 1st Aid/CPR classes (I took both classes) where she stated in both classes not to give children anything without parental permission due to risk of allergic reaction and legal issues.

Thought the other teacher I was mentioning in that other class was not a FCCP she does do regular visits/evaluations and research in other child care facilities, including home daycares. And as stated before she asked in July and we went over it around November and not only I but other people interested in FCC asked if it applied to FCC and she said yes they just made that a rule that was only a few months ago and like I have said the rules change all the time.

In that class we went over the entire title 22 and where to look for things and she said that that section applied to FCC as well because you need permission before you give any child anything as a general rule. It does not flat out say "sunscreen" but it can fall under the category of non prescription medication. Wouldn't you need permission for the parent if you gave them aspirin or Benadryl?

[Willow]

Just to clarify, children should never be given asprin.

[craftymissbeth]

This link to the Mayo Clinic's site says aspirin is approved for children 2 and older :confused:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/reyes-syndrome/DS00142

[Starburst]

Just to clarify, children should never be given asprin.

I was saying if you were to give a child some type of non-prescription medication wouldn't you think you need the parents permission- it was not literally it was an example. I was using aspirin as a generic term because not many people go around saying "I have a fever, I need acetaminophen" but I know lots of people who just call pain relievers/fever reduces 'aspirin' no matter what brand it is or even if it is technically not aspirin.

[Willow]

This link to the Mayo Clinic's site says aspirin is approved for children 2 and older :confused:


http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/reyes-syndrome/DS00142

Do you feel qualified enough to distinguish if someone else's child definitely does or does not have a fever causing or viral illness as opposed to other kinds of illnesses?

I've never heard of any licensor advising a FCCP administer asprin even with parental permission.


"The U.S. Surgeon General, the Food and Drug Administration, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the American Academy of Pediatrics the National Reye's Syndrome Foundation, and WHO recommend that aspirin and combination products containing aspirin not be given to children under 19 years of age during episodes of fever-causing or viral illnesses."

[Willow]

I was saying if you were to give a child some type of non-prescription medication wouldn't you think you need the parents permission- it was not literally it was an example. I was using aspirin as a generic term because not many people go around saying "I have a fever, I need acetaminophen" but I know lots of people who just call pain relievers/fever reduces 'aspirin' no matter what brand it is or even if it is technically not aspirin.

Why not just call it Tylenol?

And I happen to believe it's an INCREDIBLY important distinction. Lots of people read these boards. It could literally mean life or death for a child.

[craftymissbeth]

Do you feel qualified enough to distinguish if someone else's child definitely does or does not have a fever causing or viral illness as opposed to other kinds of illnesses?

I've never heard of any licensor advising a FCCP administer asprin even with parental permission.


"The U.S. Surgeon General, the Food and Drug Administration, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the American Academy of Pediatrics the National Reye's Syndrome Foundation, and WHO recommend that aspirin and combination products containing aspirin not be given to children under 19 years of age during episodes of fever-causing or viral illnesses."

First of all, I don't administer ANY OTC medications to children other than my own. In fact, I rarely give my own child OTC medications.

Actually, the fact that I rarely give my child OTC medications is the reason I posted that. I wasn't saying that anyone should give a child aspirin, but rather expressing my confusion about the conflicting information I was reading. Hence the "confused" emoticon. I guess I should have clarified.

[Starburst]

Why not just call it Tylenol?

And I happen to believe it's an INCREDIBLY important distinction. Lots of people read these boards. It could literally mean life or death for a child.

Because aspirin was just the first thing that came to mind, it was not to be taken literally. But growing up people just call pills aspirin as a blanket term- that is a vernacular I am trying to get rid of to be more specific for future. But there is also baby aspirin, though I wouldn't give that to kids either.

[Willow]

First of all, I don't administer ANY OTC medications to children other than my own. In fact, I rarely give my own child OTC medications.

Actually, the fact that I rarely give my child OTC medications is the reason I posted that. I wasn't saying that anyone should give a child aspirin, but rather expressing my confusion about the conflicting information I was reading. Hence the "confused" emoticon. I guess I should have clarified.

Nope, I gotchya. Sorry if I came across as if I was jumping on YOU you. General you is where I meant to go with that.

[Willow]

Because aspirin was just the first thing that came to mind, it was not to be taken literally. But growing up people just call pills aspirin as a blanket term- that is a vernacular I am trying to get rid of to be more specific. But there is also baby aspirin though I wouldn't give that to kids either.

Uh, right. But baby asprin are not for babies. That's why they're now called "low dose" asprin instead. The mere term is grossly misleading.