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  • wdmmom
    Advanced Daycare.com
    • Mar 2011
    • 2713

    #16
    Who do you have the contract with? The grandmother?

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    • sharlan
      Daycare.com Member
      • May 2011
      • 6067

      #17
      Yes, I did know the ball was there. I saw the 18 mo push it over the gate. 18 mo was being supervised. 10 yo was also being supervised or I wouldn't have seen the ball get kicked. I was walking towards the gate to make sure it was latched. Should I have walked the 10 yo child by the hand to the bathroom and assisted with the handwashing?

      10 yo got up from the kitchen table, walked through the gate, towards the bathroom, and rather than kick the ball forward towards the front door (no glass), he chose to kick it towards the wall with the curio cabinet, clock, and 2 large windows.

      Yes, I was upset with the child for kicking the ball. Child definitely knows better and knows the rules of my house. Child's been here for over 1 1/2 yrs.

      My issue was the grandmother's "It was an accident." No it was not an accident. I am hearing that excuse more and more. Kids are beginning to believe that everything they do is an accident and there is becoming less and less accountability repercussions for their actions.

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      • Chatter Box
        New Daycare.com Member
        • Oct 2012
        • 115

        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered
        not really....just that she needs to own up to her part in the matter. Little one WAS unsupervised, 10 year olds are notorious for not thinking things through. That is why he has a care giver. Grandma was a butt in excusing his behavior, but OP needs to admit that she did not remove the ball after the 18 mo old threw it over the gate and she admits to knowing it was there. She needs to admit that she played a part in the outcome!
        HI GRANDMA!!! ::

        Sorry but I disagree. I have a 5 year old that knows right from wrong and he knows better. Any adult who excuses this type behavior in a 10 year old is an irresponsible adult.

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        • Meeko
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 4349

          #19
          Originally posted by sharlan
          Yes, I did know the ball was there. I saw the 18 mo push it over the gate. 18 mo was being supervised. 10 yo was also being supervised or I wouldn't have seen the ball get kicked. I was walking towards the gate to make sure it was latched. Should I have walked the 10 yo child by the hand to the bathroom and assisted with the handwashing?

          10 yo got up from the kitchen table, walked through the gate, towards the bathroom, and rather than kick the ball forward towards the front door (no glass), he chose to kick it towards the wall with the curio cabinet, clock, and 2 large windows.

          Yes, I was upset with the child for kicking the ball. Child definitely knows better and knows the rules of my house. Child's been here for over 1 1/2 yrs.

          My issue was the grandmother's "It was an accident." No it was not an accident. I am hearing that excuse more and more. Kids are beginning to believe that everything they do is an accident and there is becoming less and less accountability repercussions for their actions.
          "Unregistered" is a perfect example of "it's always somebody else's fault and never the child's".

          One of my best friends is married to a veteran police officer. He has often told us about the different kinds of parents they have come in to the station to collect kids who have made some trouble.

          Some kids do something stupid and get themselves arrested. Their parents give them he!! at the station, make them apologize and ask what needs to be done to make things right. Then they make sure it gets done and make sure that junior regrets the second he even thought of making trouble.

          The police seldom see those kids again and they usually grow up to be model citizens.

          Then there's the parents who show up, yell at the cops about how there's been a big mistake and that THEIR angel would never do such a thing and it was all "an accident" and that they going to contact a lawyer......etc etc.. The kids smirk at the officers behind their parents backs and are arrested the following month on a similar charge and the whole thing repeats itself until both kids and parents are well known with the local PD!

          He said this happens over and over and over again and by the time the parents wise-up...it's too late to stop the downhill slide.

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          • lovemykidstoo
            Daycare.com Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 4740

            #20
            Why does someone come here and try to poke and post as "unregistered"? Is it a normal member or someone that just signed up? I love it when people hide behind that. Just to get the "ball" rolling I guess LOL! Pun intended.

            I would be very irritated with the child and more so the grandmother. 10 years old, they know better.

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            • Blackcat31
              • Oct 2010
              • 36124

              #21
              Originally posted by lovemykidstoo
              Why does someone come here and try to poke and post as "unregistered"? Is it a normal member or someone that just signed up?
              I have no idea.
              yes.
              no.

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              • Blackcat31
                • Oct 2010
                • 36124

                #22
                Originally posted by Meeko
                "Unregistered" is a perfect example of "it's always somebody else's fault and never the child's".

                One of my best friends is married to a veteran police officer. He has often told us about the different kinds of parents they have come in to the station to collect kids who have made some trouble.

                Some kids do something stupid and get themselves arrested. Their parents give them he!! at the station, make them apologize and ask what needs to be done to make things right. Then they make sure it gets done and make sure that junior regrets the second he even thought of making trouble.

                The police seldom see those kids again and they usually grow up to be model citizens.

                Then there's the parents who show up, yell at the cops about how there's been a big mistake and that THEIR angel would never do such a thing and it was all "an accident" and that they going to contact a lawyer......etc etc.. The kids smirk at the officers behind their parents backs and are arrested the following month on a similar charge and the whole thing repeats itself until both kids and parents are well known with the local PD!

                He said this happens over and over and over again and by the time the parents wise-up...it's too late to stop the downhill slide.
                I always tell my DCP that it isn't their child's behavior that defines them.

                It is the way in which they handle that behavior that defines the kind of parent they are.

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                • lovemykidstoo
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 4740

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Blackcat31
                  I always tell my DCP that it isn't their child's behavior that defines them.

                  It is the way in which they handle that behavior that defines the kind of parent they are.
                  very very true!

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                  • daycaremum
                    New Daycare.com Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 116

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered
                    not really....just that she needs to own up to her part in the matter. Little one WAS unsupervised, 10 year olds are notorious for not thinking things through. That is why he has a care giver. Grandma was a butt in excusing his behavior, but OP needs to admit that she did not remove the ball after the 18 mo old threw it over the gate and she admits to knowing it was there. She needs to admit that she played a part in the outcome!
                    Too bad you won't just stop replying! A ten year old should be responsible enough to trust to walk to the bathroom and wash up without supervision, and not kick a ball in the house as he walks by it. I have a ten year old and he would know better than to do this, especially in someone else's home. It is a providers fault when a child makes a poor decision. Sheesh, I think you need to go for a walk or something because you have too much time on your hands.

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                    • Play Care
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 6642

                      #25
                      I normally don't play the "old enough to know better" card because children are notorious for not knowing better. However this child is 10! He is NOT little. I can not imagine any of my school aged children seeing an actual little one drop a ball outside a gated area and think "let me kick it as hard as I can" but rather pick the ball up and drop it back over the gate (now, I could see them making a game out of it with the little kid - little kid tosses it over, older child puts it back etc. etc.etc)

                      But let's put a different spin on this - if the child had been in school, found a gym ball and decided it and kick it hard in the hallway - even knowing it was against the rule (as he did in the OP), he would have been in trouble - not the teachers or the principal - no one would be suggesting they were not doing their jobs. I'll admit I wouldn't leave a 10 yo to their own devices for long, but a minute to attend to another child? If I can't do that, then this child can't be here. Sorry, that is not "normal" in my experience caring for school aged kids.

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                      • bunnyslippers
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 987

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered
                        not really....just that she needs to own up to her part in the matter. Little one WAS unsupervised, 10 year olds are notorious for not thinking things through. That is why he has a care giver. Grandma was a butt in excusing his behavior, but OP needs to admit that she did not remove the ball after the 18 mo old threw it over the gate and she admits to knowing it was there. She needs to admit that she played a part in the outcome!
                        She didn't play any part in this incident. This was a 10 year old child who has no self regulation skills, personal responsibility, or respect for someone else's home. My children are 2 and 5 ~ they would NEVER do this in someone else's home.

                        I think we can all agree that you are a pot stirrer, and a bit ignorant of the reality of taking care of children while being a human. Either that, or you are the most perfect person in America who never has to turn her back on any child, ever. Hope you never have to pee, sneeze, or look at more than one child at a time. Just stop with your antagonistic and unhelpful comments. Jeez.

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                        • laundrymom
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 4177

                          #27
                          No grandma. That was an on purpose. And on purposes get time out and lose ball privileges for 2weeks.

                          Then do the smile.

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                          • My3cents
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 3387

                            #28
                            Goodness stuff happens when I am watching the child and two feet away. I don't think it factors in very much here. 10 years old, old enough to know better the kids made a wrong choice. I agree with the majority here.

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                            • My3cents
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 3387

                              #29
                              Originally posted by sharlan
                              I walked into my livingroom just in time to see my 10 yo kick a soccer ball towards my heirloom grandfather clock. Next to the clock, between the kicker's feet and the clock is an heirloom glass encased curio cabinet with 4 shelves of glass items. Luckily the ball bounced off of the sofa and didn't hit anything else.

                              As calmly as I could, I asked the child, "What were you thinking?"
                              Reply, "Umm, I wasn't thinking about anything." Honest answer but if handled right I am sure he will be thinking next time he makes that type of choice--- I know at age ten I did some awkward stuff myself- just didn't think before I acted-- but, I was taught right from wrong, not coddled and made to feel that what I did was non shalant and ok. I was not beaten either. I was made to apologise and fix my mistakes and have remorse for what I did.

                              Again, as calmly as I could be, I proceeded to explain the value of said items and the expense the father would have had to pay if anything was broken.

                              Grandma walks in at that time and I explained what just happened.

                              "Oh, I'm sure it was an ACCIDENT. Besides 10 yo should be outside playing not stuck in the house."

                              Said child had just finished eating snack and was on the way to the bathroom to wash up.

                              I swear, everything kids do today is an ACCIDENT. Stop making excuses for everything and start making kids accountable for their actions.
                              I responded above

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                              • KnoxMom
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 311

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Meeko
                                One day he'll be caught in a parking lot....with a ball bat......at 2AM.......with broken car windows all around........and Grandma will say that's an accident too.
                                Exactly.

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