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  • Little Star75
    Daycare.com Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 367

    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    sorry....but why is your daughter still helping you if she has strep???!!!
    If I need to use the potty...... She will supervise for no more than 5 min
    I have nobody to help me. The kids been exposed already

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    • Unregistered

      #17
      Originally posted by Little Star75
      If I need to use the potty...... She will supervise for no more than 5 min
      I have nobody to help me. The kids been exposed already
      I think I am going to just bite my tongue.....

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      • Crystal
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 4002

        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered
        I think I am going to just bite my tongue.....
        Good idea....but I think I agree with you

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        • Crystal
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 4002

          #19
          Okay. I can't bite my toungue. I have to be honest here, even if it "hurts".

          Your daughter should not be around the other children. Period. In California, you could get in trouble for that. But, regardless of that.....would you allow DCK's to attend with strep throat just because others "might" have been exposed? If the answer is no, then your daughter should be treated as a DCK and not be allowed to "attend" until she has been on antibiotics for 24-48 hours.

          Your decision to allow her to work with the children is irresponsible, at best. You are knowingly, intentionally exposing other children to a potentially EXTREMELY dangerous illness. NOT COOL

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          • Crystal
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 4002

            #20
            One other thing. In California your daughter cannot be left alone to supervise the children for 1 minute, much less five. Under the age of 18 can NEVER be left alone with children.

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            • momofsix
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 1846

              #21
              Originally posted by Crystal
              One other thing. In California your daughter cannot be left alone to supervise the children for 1 minute, much less five. Under the age of 18 can NEVER be left alone with children.
              ?? So if a provider in CA has one of their older children in the room with the dc children-be it a 12 yo or a 17yo-that child would need to leave the room whenever provider walked out? Whether to use the bathroom, get a drink, make a bottle??? I'm assuming provider is still w/in hearing distance of the kids.
              Not trying to start a debate here, but I'm curious what the proper action is.
              fwiw, I have a sick 16yo here at home-she's stuck in her room all day even though she was around all the kids right before she got sick

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              • Jewels
                Daycare.com Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 534

                #22
                I wouldn't close, but I would have kept her away, laying down and resting somewhere. I'm confused on the statement "I have no other helper" do you really need one You can't do it by yourself, thats what it sounded like from your statement... She's sick,she shouldn't be exposingj( even though she already has) anymore, she should be resting and away.

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                • Crystal
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 4002

                  #23
                  Originally posted by momofsix
                  ?? So if a provider in CA has one of their older children in the room with the dc children-be it a 12 yo or a 17yo-that child would need to leave the room whenever provider walked out? Whether to use the bathroom, get a drink, make a bottle??? I'm assuming provider is still w/in hearing distance of the kids.
                  Not trying to start a debate here, but I'm curious what the proper action is.
                  fwiw, I have a sick 16yo here at home-she's stuck in her room all day even though she was around all the kids right before she got sick
                  I have had three of my own children work with DCK over the years and I would never leave them alone with DCK for one second, as a personal preference, because I would never want any accusations made against my children. Even if I did want to allow it, in California your own children do not count in ratios after the age of ten but they are never to be left alone to care for children. For a brief second, I am sure that is okay. But the OP is saying that her daughter supervises the children ALONE for "no more than five minutes" Aside from that, in California she would have to be 14 to be counted as an "assistant" and even then she could never be left alone with the children.


                  I don't make the regs....I just follow them

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                  • Crystal
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 4002

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Jewels
                    I wouldn't close, but I would have kept her away, laying down and resting somewhere. I'm confused on the statement "I have no other helper" do you really need one You can't do it by yourself, thats what it sounded like from your statement... She's sick,she shouldn't be exposingj( even though she already has) anymore, she should be resting and away.

                    I am curious to know how many children the provider has in care that she would require the need for assistance instead of allowing her sick daughter to rest in bed away from other children. And, if homeschooling, then her focus should be on school, not working in her mother's daycare.

                    Call me judgemental, but something just doesn't seem right about it.

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                    • lovemykidstoo
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 4740

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Crystal
                      I am curious to know how many children the provider has in care that she would require the need for assistance instead of allowing her sick daughter to rest in bed away from other children. And, if homeschooling, then her focus should be on school, not working in her mother's daycare.

                      Call me judgemental, but something just doesn't seem right about it.
                      I was wondering the same. Not judging, just curious.

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                      • Crystal
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 4002

                        #26
                        From license regs on illness:

                        102417 OPERATION OF A FAMILY CHILD CARE HOME (Continued) 102417
                        (e) When a child shows signs of illness he/she shall be separated from other children and the nature of the illness determined. If it is a communicable disease he/she shall be separated from other children until the infectious stage is over.

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                        • momofsix
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 1846

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Crystal
                          I am curious to know how many children the provider has in care that she would require the need for assistance instead of allowing her sick daughter to rest in bed away from other children. And, if homeschooling, then her focus should be on school, not working in her mother's daycare.

                          Call me judgemental, but something just doesn't seem right about it.
                          I don't remember reading anywhere that she desperately needs an assistant ("requires") just that her dd is there and she uses her. DD has already had strep for about a week if I'm reading things correctly and may already be "feeling" much better. Strep will get better on its own without antibiotics. I would doubt that she would make her daughter be with the kids if she were really feeling sick. I myself would have her separated, but I don't see the huge problems you are seeing,
                          As for the homeschooling part, that I can answer from experience. The time it takes a dedicated 13 yo to do schoolwork (if she's a dedicated worker and self motivated) isn't long. My oldest dd graduated homeschooled (with a great ACT score, just so you know we weren't slackers ) but did school usually in the evenings because that's when she enjoyed doing it and her brain worked best. A child that age can get her school finished and have tons of time leftover to help with the daycare if she chooses.

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                          • Unregistered

                            #28
                            Originally posted by momofsix
                            I don't remember reading anywhere that she desperately needs an assistant .
                            Little Star 75 said herself "I have nobody to help me." I know there is alot of us out here who do this on our own and don't have any help during the day and we do it just fine. If she is having to rely on her daughter every day to help her out (and she can not take a day off because she is sick) then maybe Little Star75 has to many kids in her care since she is not able to manage them on her own or this isn't the right thing for her ..... sorry...just my honest opinion....I don't want to hurt any feelings or stir up a bunch of controversy.

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                            • Kaddidle Care
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 2090

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Little Star75
                              Last week I closed as an emergency for 2 days because I had step-throat... Do you all remember that? Well the next day I took my daughter to get checked because she had the same symptoms. Doctor did a check up and noticed irritation but refused giving her meds for it that not until she knew exact what she had, this was last Thursday. I remained closed the rest of the week waiting for the results, this week i open as normal then today i get a call from the doctor saying my dd was positive for it. So now the question is, what do I do? Close again for 2 days while she starts the antibiotics? Or do I keep her in her room all day? :confused:
                              She has to stay away from the children until she is on the antibiotics at least 24 hours.

                              The overnight Strep Test is just that - overnight. They should have let you know on Friday. Always call to verify after 24 hours. It's clear that the Dr.'s office cannot be counted on to let you know. Be proactive, not reactive.

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                              • Crystal
                                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 4002

                                #30
                                Originally posted by momofsix
                                I don't remember reading anywhere that she desperately needs an assistant ("requires") just that her dd is there and she uses her. DD has already had strep for about a week if I'm reading things correctly and may already be "feeling" much better. Strep will get better on its own without antibiotics. I would doubt that she would make her daughter be with the kids if she were really feeling sick. I myself would have her separated, but I don't see the huge problems you are seeing,
                                As for the homeschooling part, that I can answer from experience. The time it takes a dedicated 13 yo to do schoolwork (if she's a dedicated worker and self motivated) isn't long. My oldest dd graduated homeschooled (with a great ACT score, just so you know we weren't slackers ) but did school usually in the evenings because that's when she enjoyed doing it and her brain worked best. A child that age can get her school finished and have tons of time leftover to help with the daycare if she chooses.
                                Well, unregistered answered the need for an assitant part.....yes OP did say she needed her daughter's assistance.

                                Re. Homeschooling. I get that a 13 year old probably finishes on her own more quickly than a younger child. I homeschooled my son last year when he was 14 and yes, he did finish early, BUT I had him do other school-related things. Reading, researching, studying, sending on field trips, etc.....things that are a neccessary part of school, not part of my job. Sure, he'd take regular breaks, just like he would at school and "drop-in" and say hi to the kids, but he wasn't responsible for helping in any way.

                                I suppose whatever works for the OP is fine, and it is really none of my business....but I consider home-schooling to require MORE time from the child, rather than less and I think it is unfair to have a child help me with my job just because they aren't "at school". I am not saying this provider homeschools for the purpose of having help, but from my own experience with neices and nephews whose parents DID do that....well they ended up not finishing high school and GREATLY resent their parents now.

                                Regardless, her daughter should not be around the other children, as per licensing regs, until she is no longer contagious. Regardless of if the other children had previously been exposed (who knows, maybe they didn't get it from last week but might this week....perhaps the daughter forgets to cover her mouth or wash her hands and NOW a child catches it) she should be separated from the other children.

                                Yes, strep CAN be relatively minor, but for some people, like my husband, it can cause EXTREME issues. I wouldn't take a chance with it.

                                I will NEVER understand how providers expect and demand one thing from a parent but do the EXACT opposite when it comes to their own children.

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