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  • lovemykidstoo
    Daycare.com Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 4740

    #31
    I definately see your point about expecting one thing from our families and doing the same thing ourself. I will say though that I was just wondering how many kids that the op had in her care. Not because I wanted to slam her, I was just curious. I think her daughter helping normally is not a big deal. Both of my kids have helped me in the past, not becuause I "needed" them to, but because it was convenient. You also don't know what time of the day it is. Maybe it's during the daughters lunch or when she's done with her work. My son is home at 3:00 from school. I still have 2 1/2 hrs of work at that time of day. Maybe it was during that time of day. It doesn't sound like the daughter is neglecting her schoolwork. I think to get back to the original question of the daughter being around the dck's (that was the original question wasn't it? I forgot LOL). Probably should be on the sidelines until the medicine kicks in. When my kids have been home not feeling well, they stay in bed until they're better. They are not mingling with the dck's. I also tell the parents and let them decide after they are assured that their kids won't even see my sick child.

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    • Crystal
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 4002

      #32
      Originally posted by lovemykidstoo
      I definately see your point about expecting one thing from our families and doing the same thing ourself. I will say though that I was just wondering how many kids that the op had in her care. Not because I wanted to slam her, I was just curious. I think her daughter helping normally is not a big deal. Both of my kids have helped me in the past, not becuause I "needed" them to, but because it was convenient. You also don't know what time of the day it is. Maybe it's during the daughters lunch or when she's done with her work. My son is home at 3:00 from school. I still have 2 1/2 hrs of work at that time of day. Maybe it was during that time of day. It doesn't sound like the daughter is neglecting her schoolwork. I think to get back to the original question of the daughter being around the dck's (that was the original question wasn't it? I forgot LOL). Probably should be on the sidelines until the medicine kicks in. When my kids have been home not feeling well, they stay in bed until they're better. They are not mingling with the dck's. I also tell the parents and let them decide after they are assured that their kids won't even see my sick child.
      I agree that her daughter normally helping her is not a big deal.....I shouldn't even have commented on it further, like I said it really is none of my business I just got a little over the top irritated that a child with strep throat is "supervising" other children. If she is well enough for that, then she should be "at school". Oh, btw, I do know what time it is where OP is because I am in California too

      I digress and will leave the homeschool bit alone, like I said it is none of my business.

      I do, however, stand by that she should not be around the other children until on antibiotics for 24 hours and she should NEVER be left alone with the children.

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      • Country Kids
        Nature Lover
        • Mar 2011
        • 5051

        #33
        Chrystal,

        In reading this thread and the Strep Throat thread, she went to the doctor 7 days ago and the doctor just now told her yes, it was strep. Also, the doctor hasn't even given her an antibotic to take.

        So would you seclude your child for the last week away from the childcare when your not even sure what they have? The doctor didn't even confirm strep till yesterday and did the test on Thursday. So really the childcare was more then likely exposed to it ALL of last week and then the first of this week.

        Then her doctor hasn't even called the perscription in for the child and BlackCat even confirmed that Drs. in her area aren't in a haste to call in prescriptions for this.

        So if this was your child, how long would you keep them secluded when the doctor won't do anything about the antibiotic?

        This is the information I have read between this thread and the strep throat thread.
        Each day is a fresh start
        Never look back on regrets
        Live life to the fullest
        We only get one shot at this!!

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        • Little Star75
          Daycare.com Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 367

          #34
          Originally posted by Crystal
          Okay. I can't bite my toungue. I have to be honest here, even if it "hurts".

          Your daughter should not be around the other children. Period. In California, you could get in trouble for that. But, regardless of that.....would you allow DCK's to attend with strep throat just because others "might" have been exposed? If the answer is no, then your daughter should be treated as a DCK and not be allowed to "attend" until she has been on antibiotics for 24-48 hours.

          Your decision to allow her to work with the children is irresponsible, at best. You are knowingly, intentionally exposing other children to a potentially EXTREMELY dangerous illness. NOT COOL
          Did I say work? No! She supervises from her room for Gods sake! She's not near the children I think I know better than that. Is this clear now?!

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          • Little Star75
            Daycare.com Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 367

            #35
            Originally posted by Crystal
            One other thing. In California your daughter cannot be left alone to supervise the children for 1 minute, much less five. Under the age of 18 can NEVER be left alone with children.
            Okay I have a question for you... If you have 5 children under your care and you don't have NOBODY to help, what do you do with the children when you need to use the restroom? Leave them unattended?

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            • Little Star75
              Daycare.com Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 367

              #36
              Originally posted by Crystal
              One other thing. In California your daughter cannot be left alone to supervise the children for 1 minute, much less five. Under the age of 18 can NEVER be left alone with children.
              I think I know my license regulations as far as having an assistant they can help around if they are 14 or above. At least this is what I was told at my orientation. 18 and above need a to test and fingerprints.

              And no, I never have a child in the room with any of my own. They do not have access to any of the rooms

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              • Little Star75
                Daycare.com Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 367

                #37
                Originally posted by Jewels
                I wouldn't close, but I would have kept her away, laying down and resting somewhere. I'm confused on the statement "I have no other helper" do you really need one You can't do it by yourself, thats what it sounded like from your statement... She's sick,she shouldn't be exposingj( even though she already has) anymore, she should be resting and away.
                I guess I'm not being specific and honest,y I don't like people's judgements either, if they want to know more... Please ask before they start judging

                Thank you

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                • Country Kids
                  Nature Lover
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 5051

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Little Star75
                  Okay I have a question for you... If you have 5 children under your care and you don't have NOBODY to help, what do you do with the children when you need to use the restroom? Leave them unattended?
                  Its just me here and I have 6-10 and I just run in and use the restroom while their playing. I tell them they need to sit for a minute and just go. Really, I'm actually out of eye sight for about 30 sec..

                  I don't know about CA. but my state is sight/or sound for the kids.
                  Each day is a fresh start
                  Never look back on regrets
                  Live life to the fullest
                  We only get one shot at this!!

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                  • Little Star75
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 367

                    #39
                    :Sunny
                    Originally posted by Crystal
                    I am curious to know how many children the provider has in care that she would require the need for assistance instead of allowing her sick daughter to rest in bed away from other children. And, if homeschooling, then her focus should be on school, not working in her mother's daycare.

                    Call me judgemental, but something just doesn't seem right about it.
                    Yes you are definitely judge mental without knowing the facts. Please ask before speaking please. My daughter never watches the kids, her room is across from the playroom and supervises from her room while I use the restroom. FYI I'm licensed for up to 8 children and currently have 5 children under my care toddlers and 2 infants. My 18-yr old son whom is TB, fingerprinted, and is CPR certified helps occasionally but is hardly home since he goes to college and has 2 P/T jobs.
                    Now does this explain my situation better????

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                    • Little Star75
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 367

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Kaddidle Care
                      She has to stay away from the children until she is on the antibiotics at least 24 hours.

                      The overnight Strep Test is just that - overnight. They should have let you know on Friday. Always call to verify after 24 hours. It's clear that the Dr.'s office cannot be counted on to let you know. Be proactive, not reactive.
                      I did my part and had no results then called back on Monday and still no results.

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                      • Crystal
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 4002

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Country Kids
                        Chrystal,

                        In reading this thread and the Strep Throat thread, she went to the doctor 7 days ago and the doctor just now told her yes, it was strep. Also, the doctor hasn't even given her an antibotic to take.

                        So would you seclude your child for the last week away from the childcare when your not even sure what they have? The doctor didn't even confirm strep till yesterday and did the test on Thursday. So really the childcare was more then likely exposed to it ALL of last week and then the first of this week.

                        Then her doctor hasn't even called the perscription in for the child and BlackCat even confirmed that Drs. in her area aren't in a haste to call in prescriptions for this.

                        So if this was your child, how long would you keep them secluded when the doctor won't do anything about the antibiotic?

                        This is the information I have read between this thread and the strep throat thread.
                        If my child had symptoms of it, ESPECIALLY after having been diagnosed with it myself, YES, I would keep my child away from the other children.....for however many days that took. As the Mom, I'd be BLOWING UP THAT DOCTOR'S PHONE demanding that the prescription is called in IMMEDIATELY. I would then report the doctor for failure to act.

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                        • Crystal
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 4002

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Little Star75
                          :Sunny

                          Yes you are definitely judge mental without knowing the facts. Please ask before speaking please. My daughter never watches the kids, her room is across from the playroom and supervises from her room while I use the restroom. FYI I'm licensed for up to 8 children and currently have 5 children under my care toddlers and 2 infants. My 18-yr old son whom is TB, fingerprinted, and is CPR certified helps occasionally but is hardly home since he goes to college and has 2 P/T jobs.
                          Now does this explain my situation better????
                          Yes, this does. You initially said she "supervises"....who woulda thunk you meant from her bedroom? So, please, if you don't want me to "question" you, be more specific when you post. Or not, it's up to you

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                          • Little Star75
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 367

                            #43
                            Originally posted by momofsix
                            I don't remember reading anywhere that she desperately needs an assistant ("requires") just that her dd is there and she uses her. DD has already had strep for about a week if I'm reading things correctly and may already be "feeling" much better. Strep will get better on its own without antibiotics. I would doubt that she would make her daughter be with the kids if she were really feeling sick. I myself would have her separated, but I don't see the huge problems you are seeing,
                            As for the homeschooling part, that I can answer from experience. The time it takes a dedicated 13 yo to do schoolwork (if she's a dedicated worker and self motivated) isn't long. My oldest dd graduated homeschooled (with a great ACT score, just so you know we weren't slackers ) but did school usually in the evenings because that's when she enjoyed doing it and her brain worked best. A child that age can get her school finished and have tons of time leftover to help with the daycare if she chooses.
                            Thank you Yes you are right, she's never with the kids left alone. She comes along once in a while to join us in free play, she helps with set ups for activities and food.
                            As far as homeschooling she also does her work in the evenings and gets her work done the same way. I'm also a mother of 4 ages 20, 18, 15, 14, and 8. My step dd is 14. I do most of the corrections at night and I also work weekends trying to get her homework together for the week.

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                            • Little Star75
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 367

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Crystal
                              Yes, this does. You initially said she "supervises"....who woulda thunk you meant from her bedroom? So, please, if you don't want me to "question" you, be more specific when you post. Or not, it's up to you
                              Yes I will be more specific but please ask direct questions before judging.

                              Thank you

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                              • Little Star75
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 367

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Crystal
                                Yes, this does. You initially said she "supervises"....who woulda thunk you meant from her bedroom? So, please, if you don't want me to "question" you, be more specific when you post. Or not, it's up to you
                                Btw... What would you call someone watching/observing the dck from her/his room? Isn't that supervising? I call that supervising that's why I used that term. Sorry if you understood differently

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