Considering Terming And Need Advice

[wdmmom]

He gets hurt very easily. His skin is very light and any bump will make him bruise. He's gotten plenty already. He's needs to be wrapped in bubble wrap!

As for sleeping, dcm and dcd both say he's not on a schedule. They put him in his crib, turn on a fan, shut the door and let him cry. He just started sleeping through the night but that's only if she waits to put him to bed until 10-11pm.

According to the parents, they have what they call a "loose" schedule with him. In other words, they don't make him nap. They spend a lot of time at grandma's on the weekends and he doesn't sleep at grandma's either.

Here's my day with him:

530am - wakes up
has a bottle, gets dressed, plays
7am - oatmeal
8am-comes to daycare
8am-9am morning nap (very rarely does he nap)
9am - 11am play time
1115am - Lunch. 1/2 stage 2 fruit, 1/2 stage 2 veggie
1215pm - 4oz bottle
1230-3pm naptime (usually I get about 45 minutes out of him)
3pm- 6oz bottle (usually only drinks 4oz)
330pm-445pm play time before leaving

They only live a mile away from me. He never sleeps on the way here but dcm said he falls asleep at least twice a week on the way home and will nap up to 2 hours if she lets him. My guess is those 2 days he's sleeping are Mondays and Fridays. The days he doesn't sleep for me.

Today I put him down for a morning nap. Less than 2 minutes of whining and was out like a light. He got a 1 hour nap.

I've even cut out the morning nap before in hopes for an afternoon nap. Doesn't work out in my favor.

We do the same thing every single day here. I've decided I'm going to keep monitoring him and hope for improvement. If I'm still not seeing improvement by May (when he'll be 1), I really don't see any other ultimatum but to term.

Naptime is crucial here. Not only do the kids need it but I need it too! That's my key time of the day to get lots done with minimal distraction!

[countrymom]

urgh, its the loose schedual that would drive me crazy. I would stick to the schedual. When its 9am go and wake him up, not a second later. Eventually he will learn that he needs that sleep. As for afternoon nap, I would let him cio, sounds to me like the reason he's not sleeping long is because at home they are picking him up the minute he makes a noise, so he has learned that after 45 min. its time to get up. I also would start to make mom aware that the child needs to go sleep earlier.

[Holiday Park]

Uughh! I'm sorry but from the information provided, it sounds like they are puttinf him to bed way way too late, and that causes a baby to wake wat too early . Tgn by the time you tey to put him down for nap he is so over tired he is unable to sleep. And the cycle goes on&on and he is probsby SO over tired and so skilled at sleep fighting, ..... Combine that with the parents not being consistent at ALL and you've got a problem.
Also if you look up info on sleep deprivation tou'll find that sleep deprivation causes bad concentration and poor motor skills in an jndant his age. No wonder he doesn't move right ad seems so clumsy ! That makes so much sense noe after you explained more. If his parents would put him s stricr schedule and allow him to sleep more , he would probably not only become more coordinated, but want o eat more and even grow better.

He might be geneticly predisposed to just being petite like a Pp stated. My 17month old is 20lbs 4oz . He feels solid to me. He has nice healthy chunky little legs and a fat arms and a belly. He is short wnd really small. My dh is not s big man. I am what I would call "miniature" not a drwarf but very small as an adult. At my healthiest weight I am 100lbs and 5FT 1inch. I was 95lbs when I found out I was pregnant with my oldest, 15.5 yrs ago. All three of my kids by husband are TINY because *I* am. I know they are not failure to thrive.

[cheerfuldom]

this poor little guy. i dont understand how the parents see him struggle daily and just keep running around town and doing things like shutting him in his room and letting him cry till he passes out no wonder this baby is horribly confused and over tired. he needs a routine bad. I am sorry you are having to deal with this and hope that it gets better by one year old. honestly, the chances are slim. its next to impossible to overcome all the bad habits that the parents are setting in this childs life. i would imagine that if they dont have a sleep or nap routine, they probably arent scheduled about meals, exercise, cuddle time and other things that kids needs. i am thinking the crying is going to turn to tantrums pretty soon

[allsmiles]

wow..im new to daycare and my youngest is 11 so im VERY rusty on infants.. im glad im reading that this something that needs to be corrected because my 9 mnth and 11 mnth old dcg's both take catnaps throughout the day and dont sleep all of afternoon nap, i just thought that was regular LOL..

[wdmmom]

Today. He napped for 1 hour from 8am to 9am.

This afternoon, no issues putting him down. Fell asleep quickly. Napped for 50 minutes and then he debuted his new afternoon solo...again.

When he's awake, he's generally a happy, smiley kid. Dcm said they eat dinner close to the same time each night, bath time at the same time and usually is in bed near the same time (usually around 9pm) unless he naps when he gets home from daycare, then it's more like 10pm-11pm.

I just don't get it. He eats solids like they are going out of style and cries when he finishes but he isn't too keen on taking the bottle anymore. He gets about 28 ounces per day. Today he was crawling and his forehead hit the lego container. Very lightly yet he's got a nice shiner.

Ugh. I'm over it. EVERYONE else takes a full afternoon nap but this one!!

[Scout]

maybe you can suggest to mom that they have his iron levels tested? The bruising easily would worry me too!

[countrymom]

the late nap is throwing him off schedual. Also, when you feed him the baby food, I would add infant cereal with it because its thicker and it has iron in it, so it will keep him fuller. Give him a bottle at 9am when he wakes up, feed him food at lunch and then a bottle after he wakes up at afternoon nap, give about 4 oz each time. it sounds like he's eating is a bit off too. At 9mos, he should be going to bed around 730 or 8pm not that late.

[Cat Herder]

At 9 months, here, I am starting to wean them from the AM nap.

10 minutes later to lay down, 10 minutes earlier to get up, increasing every couple days.... gradually until they skip it entirely.

By 12 months they are on one afternoon nap a day, with everyone else, on mats. It is pretty stress free, here.

Would it be worth a try, to you, for your little guy?

[wdmmom]

Oh gosh no. I've tried keeping him up. He's a complete wreck by 11am.

He can't manage to make it when he's getting up at 530-6am until 1230pm. It's too long of a stretch.

[wdmmom]

Nan gave me some great suggestions. I'm going to try that and see what happens.

[allsmiles]

Nan gave me some great suggestions. I'm going to try that and see what happens.

care to share a few.. my infants are all up after the first hour LOL