How Would You Deal With This 3 Year Old?

[PolkaTots]

I once heard someone equate family daycare to having a birthday party in your home for 8 children, 10 hours a day, 5 days a week, with no other parents there to help.

I wonder, how would mom feel about doing that...and no one has a nap, ever???

That's a very good comparison!

I do have in my contract that per state guidlines, a rest period is mandatory for children preschool age and younger. While I don't expect each child to sleep, it is expected that they remain quiet during this time as to not be disruptive to the other children. It always frustrates me when parents think their child should be exempt...she has 2 weeks left of the trial period, I will talk to the mom again, but if this behavior continues, I will be terming her. It is just too disruptive to the schedules of others...nobody is able to take a nap when she is here

[cheerfuldom]

Lay down the law one last time with mom. Either she supports your napping rules or she finds a better fit for her daughter. I had the EXACT issue with a 3yo girl as well. mom was offering this and that to the girl (not insisting my rules be followed) and I really had to be firm in saying that daycare will not offered if she cannot support the napping rules i have in place. it got a lot better after that!

[Blackcat31]

Here is how that situation would have played out at my house:

Me:"It's time for rest period."
DCG: "No, my mommy said I don't have to lay down."


I am now dialing the phone......

Me: "Hello? DCM, it is time for rest period here and DCG said you told her she didn't have to have a rest period. You will need to come and pick her up so the others can rest quietly. You can bring her back when rest period is over. Thank you."

Then at pick up, I would have told mom that from now on DCG will rest and will rest quietly.

If she cannot do that and is being told she does not have to, then someone will need to pick her up daily at the beginning of rest time and return her to care once rest period ends.

The only other option is to be billed an additional fee of $150 per week to pay for an assistant to come supervise the DCG while the others nap.

[Heidi]

Here is how that situation would have played out at my house:

Me:"It's time for rest period."
DCG: "No, my mommy said I don't have to lay down."


I am now dialing the phone......

Me: "Hello? DCM, it is time for rest period here and DCG said you told her she didn't have to have a rest period. You will need to come and pick her up so the others can rest quietly. You can bring her back when rest period is over. Thank you."

Then at pick up, I would have told mom that from now on DCG will rest and will rest quietly.

If she cannot do that and is being told she does not have to, then someone will need to pick her up daily at the beginning of rest time and return her to care once rest period ends.

The only other option is to be billed an additional fee of $150 per week to pay for an assistant to come supervise the DCG while the others nap.

oooooh...

[LaLa1923]

Here is how that situation would have played out at my house:

Me:"It's time for rest period."
DCG: "No, my mommy said I don't have to lay down."


I am now dialing the phone......

Me: "Hello? DCM, it is time for rest period here and DCG said you told her she didn't have to have a rest period. You will need to come and pick her up so the others can rest quietly. You can bring her back when rest period is over. Thank you."

Then at pick up, I would have told mom that from now on DCG will rest and will rest quietly.

If she cannot do that and is being told she does not have to, then someone will need to pick her up daily at the beginning of rest time and return her to care once rest period ends.

The only other option is to be billed an additional fee of $150 per week to pay for an assistant to come supervise the DCG while the others nap.

exactly this!!

[LaLa1923]

I did move her cot to the other room, which is out of sight to the other children (I can still see her), but it is not possible for her to be out of earshot. Per registration guidelines, (Level B in Iowa) I must operate on one level of my home and I must be able to view all children under 1 and hear all children over 1 at nap time...her tantrum was so loud, there was no place in my home I could move her where she would not be heard.

OT-

WOW! Their rules don't seem to be very reasonable! In MD they can nap on one floor and we can go up or down one floor. They also do not need to nap in the same room. I don't know what I would do if I couldnt split them up. I have 1-2 in each bedroom! Nap time is sacred! I really feel for you and the other littles....hugs!!

[LK5kids]

I would stop trying to work it with the child altogether. Without mom on board with your rules there is no way this will get better.

Talk to mom directly, these are my rules, this is why I need everyone to follow them, I need you to be supportive so we can remedy this nap time issue promptly. If she doesn't agree and has no plans to back you up then be prepared to have the "or else you need to move on" conversation.

Agree! Mom is trying to make the rules. Doesn't work that way.

[wdmmom]

FULL afternoon nap or a new daycare.

[nannyde]

I did move her cot to the other room, which is out of sight to the other children (I can still see her), but it is not possible for her to be out of earshot. Per registration guidelines, (Level B in Iowa) I must operate on one level of my home and I must be able to view all children under 1 and hear all children over 1 at nap time...her tantrum was so loud, there was no place in my home I could move her where she would not be heard.

Not to sidetrack your post but what regs are you referring to? I'm in Iowa and I haven't read anything about viewing all children under one and hearing all children over one at nap.

You can have multi levels if you have an exit.

Cat B

Two exits: The home shall have a minimum of two direct exits to the outside from the main
floor. If the second level or the basement of the home is used for the provision of child care,
other than the use of a restroom, each additional child-occupied floor shall have at least one
direct exit to the outside in addition to one inside stairway.

[Heidi]

Not to sidetrack your post but what regs are you referring to? I'm in Iowa and I haven't read anything about viewing all children under one and hearing all children over one at nap.

You can have multi levels if you have an exit.

Cat B

Two exits: The home shall have a minimum of two direct exits to the outside from the main
floor. If the second level or the basement of the home is used for the provision of child care,
other than the use of a restroom, each additional child-occupied floor shall have at least one
direct exit to the outside in addition to one inside stairway.

WB NanDe. Glad you're still lurking here! We miss you!lovethis

[daycare]

I actually did what BC suggested about picking up at nap time and it worked like a charm...

last year I had a dcg that refused to nap. She was loud and rude and would say similar things to what your girl is saying.

All it took was for that conversation to take place on the phone with mom and BINGO it never happened again....

so let me tell you.....it works.,.


Also, I have in my PHB that all parents are required to follow the rules of the daycare and are expected to BACK me at all times. I expect for the parents to be in charge when they are here with their child, if they are not, I will make any necessary actions or changes to see that it does not continue.

[nanglgrl]

Not to sidetrack your post but what regs are you referring to? I'm in Iowa and I haven't read anything about viewing all children under one and hearing all children over one at nap.

You can have multi levels if you have an exit.

Cat B

Two exits: The home shall have a minimum of two direct exits to the outside from the main
floor. If the second level or the basement of the home is used for the provision of child care,
other than the use of a restroom, each additional child-occupied floor shall have at least one
direct exit to the outside in addition to one inside stairway.

I was going to ask the same thing. I'm a level B and use two floors. The only thing that I've ever heard about seeing/hearing is that they should be within earshot at all times. That said I've never seen anything in the regulations about this. It seems you might have an aggressive worker making up his/her own rules. Sounds like what happened here with the landline issue.

[My3cents]

OT-

WOW! Their rules don't seem to be very reasonable! In MD they can nap on one floor and we can go up or down one floor. They also do not need to nap in the same room. I don't know what I would do if I couldnt split them up. I have 1-2 in each bedroom! Nap time is sacred! I really feel for you and the other littles....hugs!!

I am a one room daycare, open concept. My kids and babies all nap together. It is tricky but we do it. My parents are amazed. Sometimes my break is long and sometimes very short. All depends on the dynamics of the group, and clean up from lunch. I do require all children to have a rest period. It is the only break that I get during the day. Some days I don't know how I do it.::