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  • Unregistered

    #46
    Originally posted by Sugar Magnolia

    Ok "guns don't kill people, people kill people". True, and fair enough. But automatic assault rifles and 100 round clips DEFINITELY contribute to mass executions of innocent people.
    I heard this on TV today. Since 1968, one million Americans have been killed by gunshot wounds. That is like the entire populations of Tampa and Orlando. Chew on that .fact.
    Can you source that for me? When I read something like that it feels like an emotional trap. Are you referring to ALL gunshot wounds from our wars, suicides, crime, etc.?

    How many governments have taken away the peoples right to bear arms and summarily slaughtered them? Shall we go into real numbers?

    I do NOT think people should own tanks, bazookas, hand grenades, Biological, nuclear weapons. I DO believe in death control and personal protection.

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    • familyschoolcare
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 1284

      #47
      Originally posted by Unregistered
      Can you source that for me? When I read something like that it feels like an emotional trap. Are you referring to ALL gunshot wounds from our wars, suicides, crime, etc.?

      How many governments have taken away the peoples right to bear arms and summarily slaughtered them? Shall we go into real numbers?

      I do NOT think people should own tanks, bazookas, hand grenades, Biological, nuclear weapons. I DO believe in death control and personal protection.
      Americans are very me centered have been since before The United States of America, was its own country.

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      • MizzCheryl
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 478

        #48
        Antidepressants and mental illness are more to blame than the guns. For teen and young adults antidepressants can cause them to become very angry and suicidal. This combonation is dangerous.
        Yes some can benefit from antidepressants but others can flip out.
        I bet it will come out that this young man was on and off of antidepressants just like the others were.

        I know someone that has been on Paxil since age 7. Doctors should be so careful. These drugs are serious when it comes to young people.
        Not Clueless anymore

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        • Blackcat31
          • Oct 2010
          • 36124

          #49
          Originally posted by Sugar Magnolia
          "No Comment" from the NRA. THAT speaks volumes..
          On their behalf though, they probably are tired of being blamed as the root of these tragedies and would rather not comment since really what is the point? People who believe and support the NRA do and those that don't, don't. No need to comment in my opinion.



          Originally posted by Sugar Magnolia
          I heard this on TV today. Since 1968, one million Americans have been killed by gunshot wounds. That is like the entire populations of Tampa and Orlando. Chew on that .fact
          Just since 1982 that many people have died in drink driving accidents. http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-dr...tatistics.html

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          • littlemissmuffet
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 2194

            #50
            Originally posted by Blackcat31
            There is no other country in the world that lives as "freely" and as egocentrically as the United States. THAT is what I believe is at the root of things like this.
            I couldn't agree more.

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            • laundrymom
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 4177

              #51
              Originally posted by familyschoolcare
              Americans are very me centered have been since before The United States of America, was its own country.
              Can you explain this a bit, I'm afraid I may be a little unclear on what you mean and don't want to comment unless I'm sure.

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              • Michael
                Founder & Owner-Daycare.com
                • Aug 2007
                • 7946

                #52
                Originally posted by familyschoolcare
                Americans are very me centered have been since before The United States of America, was its own country.
                Originally posted by laundrymom
                Can you explain this a bit, I'm afraid I may be a little unclear on what you mean and don't want to comment unless I'm sure.
                Let me try. I do translation all the time:


                Americans are very self-centered and have been since before The United States of America was a country.

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                • Cat Herder
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 13744

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Michael
                  Let me try. I do translation all the time:


                  Americans are very self-centered and have been since before The United States of America was a country.

                  Thanks Michael.

                  ::::::

                  Which ones? From which countries?
                  - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                  • Blackcat31
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 36124

                    #54
                    Apparently there are no provisions stating I have the right to bear arms in my state.

                    Neither do residents of California, Iowa, Maryland, Minnesota, New Jersey, and New York.



                    Whereas states such as West Virginia and Wisconsin state

                    “A person has the right to keep and bear arms for the defense of self, family, home and state, and for lawful hunting and recreational use.”

                    so don't fret Countrygal....your right to shoot racoons and chickens can't be infringed upon
                    Last edited by Blackcat31; 12-17-2012, 06:00 PM.

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                    • lil angels
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 643

                      #55
                      Originally posted by daycarediva
                      I strongly believe that if a person this mentally ill is planning to perpetrate violence on such a massive scale, they will do so, regardless of the legality of it. (of course). Bombs, biological weapons, etc.

                      If a private citizen had been ARMED at the school, a LOT less lives would have been taken. It takes the police FOR.EV.ER. to respond. If someone was shooting in/near my home, my husband (a licensed, non criminal, mentally stable, sharpshooting, gun owner) would respond within minutes.

                      If we take the LEGALLY obtained guns away from private citizens, it will only enable illegal weapons and criminals to have that much fear/control over us as a whole.

                      This exactly.... I think the teachers should be aloud to be trained and legal to carry at school or any other business for that matter if the ad people know somebody else will be there with a weapon then they would think twice about it. Or they would be stopped a lot faster!

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                      • Country Kids
                        Nature Lover
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 5051

                        #56
                        The news just said for my area that gun sales have sky rocketed since Friday. They have noticed that when there is a shooting this happens as people worry about guns being banned from sales.
                        Each day is a fresh start
                        Never look back on regrets
                        Live life to the fullest
                        We only get one shot at this!!

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                        • Sugar Magnolia
                          Blossoms Blooming
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 2647

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Unregistered
                          Can you source that for me? When I read something like that it feels like an emotional trap. Are you referring to ALL gunshot wounds from our wars, suicides, crime, etc.?

                          How many governments have taken away the peoples right to bear arms and summarily slaughtered them? Shall we go into real numbers?

                          I do NOT think people should own tanks, bazookas, hand grenades, Biological, nuclear weapons. I DO believe in death control and personal protection.
                          It was on Morning Joe on msnbc, Joe (a Republican) was citing the Justice Department and CDC I believe. The number did not include wars. It was total deaths by gunshots involving crime or suicide.

                          I don't think anyone is suggesting we eliminate the 2nd amendment. Is that what you mean by "taking away right to bare arms"? I am not suggesting repealing the 2nd amendment, merely keeping military killing equipment in the hands of the military. Pretty straight forward.

                          I am still waiting for someone to tell me, aside from the entertainment or recreation, what a private citizen needs a 100 round clip during 16 rounds per second for?

                          Again, the silence of the NRA speaks volumes.

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                          • Country Kids
                            Nature Lover
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 5051

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Sugar Magnolia
                            Crystal (and everyone), I think it was me that took your original post to OT land, and for that I apologize. My initial horror and sorrow quickly gave way to anger over the circumstances. But so did many others in the national debate.
                            I will say this....if you can squeeze a trigger, hold it, and have up to 16 rounds per second discharge, that weapon should be for military use only. High capacity clips are for committing mass murder, or a military person to kill enemy combatants. Any alternate uses, besides "recreation"? Anyone? We all know that hunting and home protection are kinda silly arguments for automatic assault rifles with high capacity clips.

                            "No Comment" from the NRA. THAT speaks volumes.

                            Ok "guns don't kill people, people kill people". True, and fair enough. But automatic assault rifles and 100 round clips DEFINITELY contribute to mass executions of innocent people.
                            I heard this on TV today. Since 1968, one million Americans have been killed by gunshot wounds. That is like the entire populations of Tampa and Orlando. Chew on that .fact.
                            How many were killed in the Civil War in just 4 short years? With the weapons that had then it took a long time to get a gun loaded yet between those and the cannons many men died.
                            Each day is a fresh start
                            Never look back on regrets
                            Live life to the fullest
                            We only get one shot at this!!

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                            • Crystal
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 4002

                              #59
                              "Lt. J. Paul Vance with the Connecticut State Police told reporters Sunday morning that investigators are scrutinizing the guns Lanza took to the school, including the semiautomatic military-style rifle the state's medical examiner said was used in the school killings."

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                              • Sugar Magnolia
                                Blossoms Blooming
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 2647

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Crystal
                                "Lt. J. Paul Vance with the Connecticut State Police told reporters Sunday morning that investigators are scrutinizing the guns Lanza took to the school, including the semiautomatic military-style rifle the state's medical examiner said was used in the school killings."
                                I watched the medical examiners news conference live on Sunday. I heard him say each victim was shot 3 to 11 times. Sickening.

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