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  • sharlan
    Daycare.com Member
    • May 2011
    • 6067

    #31
    Originally posted by Kimberli
    In California at least, we are never allowed to see the complaint or even know who complained about us. We can't read it, we can't look at it - we only get to answer questions that are asked directly to us by the analyst who is investigating the complaint.

    My analyst never mentioned anything about anger. I have never been anything but courteous to her during her visits, though she never shows me the same respect in return. She is rude, cold and attempts to be intimidating whenever possible.

    This time when she was investigating this complaint, two of my adult daughters were in the kitchen having coffee when she came. One who is 22 lives with me, the 20 year old was visiting. The analyst made a point of telling me that it wasn't really appropriate for my daughters to be 'visiting' during daycare hours because my responsibility was to the children in my care, and they would be a distraction from what I was supposed to be doing. I guess she forgot this is their kitchen too.

    She must really be a miserable woman. I do feel for someone who is so unhappy. But ... that certainly doesn't mean that it's okay for her to take out her own issues on myself and my family.
    IN CA you're guilty until proven innocent. You have no rights, IMHO. You can't know who your accussor is, can't know what the complaint is. Even a criminal has the right to face their accussor in court and to know what the accussation is.

    When I had my last inspection, my 18 yo granddaughter was here. My analyst said hello to her when I introduced her. He said, "Be sure to get her fingerprinted so she can be left alone with the kids." She had turned 18 the week before.

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    • Kimberli
      Daycare.com Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 93

      #32
      Originally posted by sharlan
      IN CA you're guilty until proven innocent. You have no rights, IMHO. You can't know who your accussor is, can't know what the complaint is. Even a criminal has the right to face their accussor in court and to know what the accussation is.

      When I had my last inspection, my 18 yo granddaughter was here. My analyst said hello to her when I introduced her. He said, "Be sure to get her fingerprinted so she can be left alone with the kids." She had turned 18 the week before.
      Yep. So true.

      And both of my girls are fingerprinted and attached to my home.

      She said the same thing to me ... "in case you ever want to leave the kids alone with them." My response was that I would not do that because they aren't CPR/First Aid certified.

      They can't drink coffee in the kitchen ... but they can watch my 6 daycare kids.

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      • Sugar Magnolia
        Blossoms Blooming
        • Apr 2011
        • 2647

        #33
        I truly feel sorry you are in this predicament. I think your documentation of the stuff they were sending you is grounds for an appeal. Is it too late to appeal??? Honestly, I am not sure about a lawsuit. Yes, you have every right to be insulted, but I'm not sure the state was negligent, libel, or harassing. The licensing person, however, is very unprofessional. Her comments about your adult daughters is way out of line. I an not sure if anyone has suggested this yet, but can you file a complaint with her supervisors?

        If california wants to outlaw use if time out altogether, so be it. Until then, I feel it is their duty to set more definable guidelines. If their literature directly contradicts their citation they gave you, sounds like an appeal is do-able and win-able. Curious to know if the highlighted literature they sent you makes any mention of multiple time outs, as opposed to one time use? So just to be clear....does any of the regs DIRECTLY state multiple time outs and/or use of time outs under two years of age is expressly prohibited? So confusing.......

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        • Sugar Magnolia
          Blossoms Blooming
          • Apr 2011
          • 2647

          #34
          [QUOTE=countrymom;269627]...... I would call cps and make a complaint on her (selfish and pety but she needs to see how it feels) I would also find out if the child is in another daycare and talk to them.

          In my state, making a false or misleading report to DCF is a crime.

          Calling around to find the child in another daycare could also be considered harassment or stalking, also a crime.

          Sorry, totally unprofessional. Shockingly so, in fact.

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          • Country Kids
            Nature Lover
            • Mar 2011
            • 5051

            #35
            Originally posted by sharlan
            IN CA you're guilty until proven innocent. You have no rights, IMHO. You can't know who your accussor is, can't know what the complaint is. Even a criminal has the right to face their accussor in court and to know what the accussation is.

            When I had my last inspection, my 18 yo granddaughter was here. My analyst said hello to her when I introduced her. He said, "Be sure to get her fingerprinted so she can be left alone with the kids." She had turned 18 the week before.
            Two months before my child turned 18, I was told to get the paperwork in for her background check so that it would get done. If it wasn't done she couldn't live in the house!!!!!

            Ticked me because they left before the kids got here and came home after childcare hours. Made me soooooooooooooo
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