The Straw...

[brookeroo]

Don't worry when another provider complains of the same thing then maybe something will be done.

Personally from the conversations that we had last night these people are so far in denial about what is going on that I think they are going to continually abandon ship every time they are invoiced or worried someone is going to term on them. Their claim is that no one else has concerns about this child... doctor, dentist, family or friends. The look on her face when I told her that he chewed up the pack in play was like a deer in headlights or terror. Not because of what he did but because she didn't know what I was going to respond with to do.

When he also started climbing out of his crib she told me that because she knew he was becoming such a handful she was worried about what I might do if he started doing that here. I never responded with anything other than... "yeah... I don't either" ...with a chuckle. I think they saw the writing on the wall and they were bracing for it. I think they will be a lot more careful about what they put in writing... praise and how they handle a lot of these problems one on one with the providers in the future for sure because obviously they have no way out of screwing me out of my money.

Never easy

[countrymom]

I love that baby face its so stinky cute

[brookeroo]

I love that baby face its so stinky cute

It makes me think of the singer Meatloaf when he's singing for some reason. ::

[Willow]

Why if you're going after them for the $100 are you not also going after them for the $60?

She said they'd pay it originally, the fact that she changed her mind is moot, why balk now?? Especially because sticking that up in front of a judge likely would have been hilarious......can just see it:

judge - "you are asking for damages for what?
you - "a pack and play - a playpen he slept in"
judge - "and what did he do to the playpen?"
you - "he ate it"
judge - "what do you mean he ate it?"
you - "I mean he actually tried to consume the fabric off the side of it. Here, see? (shows pictures). He also ate several toys and even regularly tried to consume my flooring.
judge - (thinking ummmm....omg......wtfrank?? while just staring at the mom like she had three heads).
you - "Mom agreed the playpen was over the top for damages to my property and promised me she should pay for it, but then changed her mind, I'm not sure why"
judge - "judgement for the plaintiff in the amount of $60"

I would have gone for it just for that reaction, even if it wasn't awarded LOL


I'd have put right in the email before I threatened legal action - you promised to pay me for the damage your son did to my daycare equipment, what made you change your mind?

Her not thinking you would or could do anything to recoup your loss probably would have said she merely changed her mind.....that admittance right there would have been your $60 in court, which is exactly where I think you're going to have to end up here.

I don't care if they're church go-ers. Their actions thus far have shown you exactly what they think of you and your contract. Why would they fork over money they don't believe they owe you?? If they were going to pay they'd have done it already and the situation wouldn't have degraded as it has.

I am sorry, but I would be prepared to follow through.



For future reference, I saw something like this is someone elses phb once and immediately added it to my own:

-Damages-

While I all realize there will be wear and tear on all of the childcare equipment and my home in general, if your child *intentionally* damages my toys, furnishings, equipment or property, either through destructive behavior or unnecessary roughness, parent/guardians will be held financially responsible for the damages.

[daycarediva]

I don't care if they're church go-ers. Their actions thus far have shown you exactly what they think of you and your contract. Why would they fork over money they don't believe they owe you?? If they were going to pay they'd have done it already and the situation wouldn't have degraded as it has.

I am sorry, but I would be prepared to follow through.



For future reference, I saw something like this is someone elses phb once and immediately added it to my own:

-Damages-

While I all realize there will be wear and tear on all of the childcare equipment and my home in general, if your child *intentionally* damages my toys, furnishings, equipment or property, either through destructive behavior or unnecessary roughness, parent/guardians will be held financially responsible for the damages.

I have something very similar in my PHB. I would be taking them to court for the maximum amount you could get at this point. I would be asking for the week's pay, plus pack and play, plus lost wages. < All of that is in my contract.

[Cat Herder]

As a business person, I recommend that you don't **** it up and swallow it. People shouldn't get away with disrespecting your business services. After all you cared for their most precious treasure.

That is what Provider Watch is for

https://www.providerwatch.com

[Blackcat31]

I agree with Willow and I also have included in my contract that I will absorb the costs of normal wear and tear on my things but anything outside of the normal realm or that is briken intentionally will fall on the parents.

Also don't you have text messages of the mom offering you her PNP or to replace yours?

Heck you have the dates on this forum and the thread about it all dated BEFORE her FB posts about not paying for it that is somewhat proof of her offering to pay for it previously.

I would also make a call to my licensor and tell her what is going on...as a head's up. I would also report to whomever, that you had/have concerns about a child and parents are terming care rather than having the issue addressed.

[brookeroo]

judge - (thinking ummmm....omg......wtfrank?? while just staring at the mom like she had three heads).

HAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAAAA



Really I reconsidered going after them for it but I already put in writing to them that

1. I would watch their son today (calling their bluff) and next week "because I stick to my word and my contract".

Needless to say it was pretty obvious in the rest of my first response to them that I was a little peeved off so they opted not to bring him.

and 2. that I was not going to fight the the $60 (which should have been 69.99 based on the store it was bought at for the cheapest of the brand that he damaged but I discounted 9.99 off on the invoice just to be nice) in damages. I told them I was just going to go after what they contractually agreed upon. At this point I don't think I'd get it based on my errors here and based on principle by sticking to my word because that's just how I am. Whether I'm dealing with jerks or not.

[brookeroo]

Also don't you have text messages of the mom offering you her PNP or to replace yours?

I don't have text messages about that. They were verbal conversations regarding that HOWEVER... NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT... I do have a couple of written conversations with her asking her not to text me anymore because of my texting plan and NUMEROUS text messages after the fact.

And since they have addressed the fact that this is a business and "the costs of doing business..." I think I'm going to add in the cost of each text message they have sent me over their period of care. I mean... I wouldn't expect to text my bank just to tell them I was on my way there, or that I missed my money, right? June alone was 116 of my 250.

[EntropyControlSpecialist]

I honestly think he has a sensory disorder or PICA. Either way, he needs more help than just you can give. I think what you said to Mom is perfect. You COULD have done a huge disservice to both Mom and baby had you said nothing and let her continue to think everything is ok. It isn't the easiest part of this job, but we are advocates for these kids.

ME, TOO!

[countrymom]

humm hello, you have proof, you have the eaten playpen. And the picture on here with the date. That takes alot of force to eat thru that.

[brookeroo]

humm hello, you have proof, you have the eaten playpen. And the picture on here with the date. That takes alot of force to eat thru that.

I know. I was just saying I have nothing proving that mom agreed to pay for it. It's her word against mine. I know I could try to get the money back but I had already wrote to them that I wasn't going to fight it and I figured the court would throw it out after that if we got that far.

Although looking back I may reconsider because I just re-read what I wrote and I did say "at this point I won't fight to be reimbursed for the pack and play" so I might just go ahead and add it in if they don't pay me and I do end up going to court.

I will do things a lot differently for certain things if these types of things happen again.