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  • momma2girls
    Daycare.com Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 2283

    #31
    WHen my parents(one is no longer here, because of it) see each other's children still here, they think it is Ok!! I would have them pick up their children at home, change, pick up groc. get gas, etc. on my time!! I put an end to it in Jan. but they still are late at times, and want me to open early at times. This will come to a halt in the Fall when they all return!! I am implementing the late fees, early fees, etc. I was being nice, and not charging them, but I have to abide by my own contract- !!!!

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    • momofboys
      Advanced Daycare Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 2560

      #32
      Originally posted by Anna
      My mom is a school teacher (2nd grade) and her school day is over at 3:30p however she usually doesn't leave school until 5p or so because she is getting things cleaned up and getting things ready for the next day (making copies, lesson plans, etc.).

      I hate working 12 hrs a day..however if I didn't, I wouldn't have any children. Traffic on Oahu is brutal and one of my parents has about an 1 1/2 commute down town everyday. Also with military parents days start VERY early. All providers in my area have hours 6a-6p (that I know of) and some even open earlier. Can't wait to get a new duty station and be able to change my hours to shorter days! Only 2 more years...
      My teacher mom can be here early if she wants to, she runs errands/does laundry etc. And I am not willing to work longer days b/c of it. 12 hours is too long IMO unless you are only working a 3 or 4 day week. Do they parents work 10 or 11 hour days? I hope you charge extra (more like a day and a half ) for such a long day!

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      • Anna
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 29

        #33
        Originally posted by janarae
        My teacher mom can be here early if she wants to, she runs errands/does laundry etc. And I am not willing to work longer days b/c of it. 12 hours is too long IMO unless you are only working a 3 or 4 day week. Do they parents work 10 or 11 hour days? I hope you charge extra (more like a day and a half ) for such a long day!

        Well my Army mom has to leave her house at 4a but the dad drops off his daughter at 6a then she picks up the daughter at 6p. This is the family that frustrates me a bit because the dad sometimes won't work until 10a or so and still drop off his daughter at 6a on the dot. He also doesn't work Mondays but of course dcg is still here AND the mom gets off work earlier sometimes but still doesn't pick up until 6p on the dot.

        A different dcgs mom works downtown from 8a-4:30p but with a 1 1/2 commute she is usually here around 6:15/6:30a and leaves at 6:00/6:15p. I have no problems with this because she is legitimately working and traveling at the time she leaves her daughter with me. She also hates leaving her with me for so long but she has no way to shorten travel time. She is a single parent.

        A different dcg comes at 6:30a and leaves at 5:30p. Her mom works at 7a and works until 5p however she has night classes on Tuesday and Thursday until 10p so we worked it out that her daughter would just stay ove on Tuesday and Thursdays since she will be here the next morning anyway. I have no problems with her since she is a friend of mine and her husband is currently deployed.

        I think a lot of you who have nine hour days work in areas where you can. If providers around here only worked nine hour days then they would not have anyone to watch. I live in a heavily (and I mean heavily) saturated military area and the majority of families looking for care are military. My husband is in the Army and leaves the house at 5:30a and doesn't return until 7p. If they are not military they drive the insane commute to downtown which takes a ridiculous hour and a half (it is about 20 miles). I don't think there is a solution for my 12 hour days. Luckily I have a really good group of girls which help make my day go by fast.

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        • momofboys
          Advanced Daycare Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 2560

          #34
          Originally posted by Anna
          Well my Army mom has to leave her house at 4a but the dad drops off his daughter at 6a then she picks up the daughter at 6p. This is the family that frustrates me a bit because the dad sometimes won't work until 10a or so and still drop off his daughter at 6a on the dot. He also doesn't work Mondays but of course dcg is still here AND the mom gets off work earlier sometimes but still doesn't pick up until 6p on the dot.

          A different dcgs mom works downtown from 8a-4:30p but with a 1 1/2 commute she is usually here around 6:15/6:30a and leaves at 6:00/6:15p. I have no problems with this because she is legitimately working and traveling at the time she leaves her daughter with me. She also hates leaving her with me for so long but she has no way to shorten travel time. She is a single parent.

          A different dcg comes at 6:30a and leaves at 5:30p. Her mom works at 7a and works until 5p however she has night classes on Tuesday and Thursday until 10p so we worked it out that her daughter would just stay ove on Tuesday and Thursdays since she will be here the next morning anyway. I have no problems with her since she is a friend of mine and her husband is currently deployed.

          I think a lot of you who have nine hour days work in areas where you can. If providers around here only worked nine hour days then they would not have anyone to watch. I live in a heavily (and I mean heavily) saturated military area and the majority of families looking for care are military. My husband is in the Army and leaves the house at 5:30a and doesn't return until 7p. If they are not military they drive the insane commute to downtown which takes a ridiculous hour and a half (it is about 20 miles). I don't think there is a solution for my 12 hour days. Luckily I have a really good group of girls which help make my day go by fast.
          That's good that your DCK are a good bunch! I'm sure that helps a ton

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          • Sprouts
            Licensed Provider
            • Dec 2010
            • 846

            #35
            Originally posted by nannyde
            The longest I have any kids is nine hours. I base my rates on nine hours a day and departure times. See rates below. Doesn't do them any good to keep their kids here later than they need. It gets way too expensive. If it's more than nine hours total then it's an additional four dollars an hour.

            3:00 p.m. departure $135.00 per week

            3:15 p.m. departure $140.00 per week

            3:30 p.m. departure $145.00 per week

            3:45 p.m. departure $150.00 per week

            4:00 p.m. departure $155.00 per week

            4:15 p.m. departure $160.00 per week

            4:30 p.m. departure $165.00 per week

            4:45 p.m. departure $170.00 per week

            5:00 p.m. departure $175.00 per week

            5:15 p.m. departure $180.00 per week

            5:30 p.m. departure $185.00 per week

            5:45 p.m. departure $190.00 per week

            6:00 p.m. departure $195.00 per week
            Quick Question,

            So if my base pay for full time child is $250...then would I start at that rate and go up? Or that would be the highest??

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            • nannyde
              All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
              • Mar 2010
              • 7320

              #36
              Originally posted by Sprouts
              Quick Question,

              So if my base pay for full time child is $250...then would I start at that rate and go up? Or that would be the highest??
              I would put that in the middle. Whatever you think your market can withstand. I wish I made 250 a kid. I could live off of four. That would be awesome
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              • Rachel
                Daycare.com Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 605

                #37
                I just opened and my hours (standard for here) are 7:00 - 4:30. The one boy I have is usually here from 8 / 8:30 - 2:45 / 3:30 or so. Starting next week I have 2 more coming so I am sure I will be working longer hours, just not sure what they yet.

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                • Nellie
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 259

                  #38
                  Originally posted by momma2girls
                  Yes, all my teacher's were completely taking advantage of me as well. THey would all see each other arrive between 4:45- 5:00 or after!! They all get off at 3:30!!!!
                  Just because the work day end's for a teacher, doesn't mean there day is done. They are required to stay at the school for X amount of hours a day, but often work longer hours to finish the work. My mothers is a teacher and she is required to be at the school from 7:30 to 4:00. School is from 8 to 3. She is their from 6 am to 7pm on an average and often as early as 5 and as late as 9.

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                  • JenNJ
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 1212

                    #39
                    Family #1: 8:15 - 4:30 One parent dropping and picking up. 2 minutes from workplace.

                    Family #2: 8:00 - 5:20 One parent dropping and picking up. I live in the opposite direction of parents workplace.

                    Family #3: Care 3 days per week. 8:15 - 6:15pm One parent dropping off and picking up. Home is 30 minutes from mine and workplace is 45 minutes from mine. Kids are with family members the other 2 days.

                    Family #4: Care 3 days per week. Two days 8:30 - 4:00, one day Noon - 4:00. He stays home with one parent the days he isn't here.

                    I have had no issues with late pickups EVER. The kids with late schedules are with family the other days and that works well for everyone involved, especially the kids.

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                    • MarinaVanessa
                      Family Childcare Home
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 7211

                      #40
                      Family #1: 6:30am-5pm 10.5 hours/day Mon-Thurs 42 hours/wk
                      Family #2: 7:00am-5pm 10 hours/day Monday-Fri 50 hours/wk
                      Family #3: 8:00am-6pm 10 hours/day Monday-Fri 50 hours/wk
                      Family #4: 8:00am-6pm 10 hours/day Monday-Fri 50 hours/wk

                      My hours are 6am to 6pm and only once I had a family that wanted to bring their child from 6am to 6pm but it got expensive for them considering that the DCM never actually made it here at 6am. She would get here at 9am or later, sometimes as late as noon.

                      I charge a weekly rate of $160 for FT for 10 hours a day (50 hours a week). Anything more than 10 hours a day I charge at $5 an hour so this family was paying $235 a week for 6am to 6pm for a couple of weeks before she changed the contracted hours to the typical 10 hours a day.

                      I figure that 10 hours a day is average considering that most people work 8 hour shifts with an hour lunch and that leaves another 30 minutes of commuting time each way.

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                      • 2ndFamilyDC
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 211

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Janet
                        I find out what hours are needed. I don't give the option to bring them from open to close unless they had a work schedule that was one with longer hours. And in that case, I would charge a bit more.



                        Yep same here. I pretty much do it the way NannyDe does.

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                        • renodeb
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 837

                          #42
                          I know a lot of providers that do have a limit.
                          My early family comes 645-445 (someitmes gets picked up ealier) moms a teacher.
                          next drop off is 730-445
                          and then my pt boy is usually 900-530 (when the mom drops off its 800-530)
                          I think the average is 10 hours with travel time. Anything other than that is an awful long day. Sadly alot of parents dont want to deal with there own kids so we have them.
                          Debbie

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                          • PitterPatter
                            Advanced Daycare.com Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1507

                            #43
                            Originally posted by nannyde


                            When they call for care and ask what hours you are open answer them with a question. "What hours do you need?"

                            They will answer with <insert 12 hour day> and then you ask where they work and what times they work. Both parents. So then you say "okay so dad goes in at eight and it's a fifteen minute drive so drop off would be a little after 7:30 and you get off at 4 and it's a 20 minute drive so pick up would be 4:30. Right?"

                            Whoever goes into work last drops off.
                            Whoever gets off of work first picks up.


                            Exception is when one parent works really close to you and the other doesn't and they don't live nearby. Then you can go with one parents schedule. If you don't allow that then they will incur too much in gas money and prolly won't pick you... so be flexible on that. Also some parents DO have to park and walk. I have one client that when she first started with me she was way back in the back forty of her parking lot and had a hike into the building every day. She was one of many clients I had from that company so I knew she was telling the truth. As she advanced thru the company her spot got closer and closer and now she parks right close to where she goes in the building. So you do have to listen to what they have in addition to the drive.

                            I have found that parents that really want my services but have later hours or an hour lunch WILL work with their employer to switch their hours to earlier hours and flip to a half hour lunch to stay within my nine hours and get off as early as possible. Sweet for everyone involved. Saves them money, gives them more waking hours with the kid, and gets the kids out da doe earlier.
                            I tried this exact thing a couple weeks ago with a potential private paying client. I was hoping to take the 1st step in avoiding being walked on. The Mother said what hours they worked was none of my business and since I want to be so demanding of their time she will take her business elsewhere. Then she hung up on me. So much for being stern from the get go

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                            • nannyde
                              All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 7320

                              #44
                              Originally posted by PitterPatter
                              I tried this exact thing a couple weeks ago with a potential private paying client. I was hoping to take the 1st step in avoiding being walked on. The Mother said what hours they worked was none of my business and since I want to be so demanding of their time she will take her business elsewhere. Then she hung up on me. So much for being stern from the get go
                              That person wouldn't work anyway. They want open hours day care. You CAN be stern from the go.
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                              • mismatchedsocks
                                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 677

                                #45
                                Most of my kids are here 8-9 hours, one is here 10 hours, one is here 6 hours.

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