She Didn't Even Take Him To The Doctor!!!

[PitterPatter]

Wow how scary! Actually I just had to demand that a child be taken to the ER a couple weeks ago when a DCM kept blowing off a health issue. That child ended up being admitted to the hospital for days!

I feel very bad for the poor child since mom doesn't think it's such a serious matter. You did the right thing by letting them go. I know I couldn't deal with that serious of a situation.

Children are a gift I don't understand is why/how a MOTHER can be this carless with a child life.

[MamaBear]

Agree!

I would refuse he come back until he was taken to the doctor.

I agree! Don't let her bring that baby back until he goes to a doctor & has a clear doctors note stating the diagnosis. Sheesh... What a loser mom!

NEVERMIND... i just read down some more and saw that you terminated them. GOOD for you! She is obviously hiding something from you. Better you cover your butt then find out the hard way that he has a serious condition. Good job SAHM.

[mommacat]

Wouldn't it be lovely to require a complete physical prior to enrollment like the school system does !

[Unregistered]

I finally heard from the mom of the baby who stopped breathing at my daycare yesterday. She decided she would "just wait and see how he did today and maybe take him tomorrow but he is doing great now" so I assume that to mean that she doesn't plan on taking her child to the doctor. HER SON STRUGGLED TO BREATH!!! HE WAS TURNING BLUE!!!! He looked at me with such a fright in his eyes. It breaks my heart and haunts me still, I was doing everything I could for him. I see it all in slow motion. So why am I more upset and alarmed than she is?! I am heartbroken for the little guy. I want to smack some sense into her. I don't even know what to say, other than you are released of your contract.

There is ONE exception that I could see as far as her not reacting: Does he do this often at home? My son did. After awhile, I learned how to take care of it myself and not rely on emergency services. There was one 911 call and one respiratory arrest in hospital after a surgery. I was always panicked and didn't allow my son to be with ANYONE but me. (he's a little spoiled now---unintentionally). If she's not just "used to it" because of something like what I went through, then I would report her ass. I would ask her though before you do. If she says "Oh he has apnea all the time and is fine..." then it may explain why she's shrugging it off (i.e. not a biggie to her because he's done it before and it's easy to take care of in her eyes)...but if she doesn't KNOW? That's just negligent!

Saying all the above, I have ALWAYS let any daycares know what's up at the phone interview. I wouldn't wait til an episode happens!

Did you give this mom your notice? I would have and NO refunds either. Maybe she'll shape up and get the kid some help. I would call CPS still though, since in HER case it sounds like she just doesn't care.

[Unregistered]

Also:

My son FTR had severe apnea and breathing episodes. This was something he just had and finally outgrew. He had it since birth. I always made sure anyone who cared for him knew infant CPR and how to administer steroids and oxygen. Yup...had this stuff ALL at my house!

[Kaddidle Care]

let the stone throwing begin, but i think calling CPS is a little over the top!

A mother doesn't feel it's necessary to leave work after her child stops breathing and turns blue.

If this is a typical thing for the child and she doesn't tell her DC provider it could mean the death of her child.

We are looking out for the child here, not the mother. The mother needs a serious wake up call.

[Blackcat31]

Wouldn't it be lovely to require a complete physical prior to enrollment like the school system does !

Many child cares do this already. Home child cares have the option of having parents do this upon enrollment as well.

Sooner or later it will be something all child cares will be required to do.

[WImom]

In WI we have to have a Health Report signed by the child's doctor which I like since we know anything that could be wrong with the child health wise.

[Solandia]

Wouldn't it be lovely to require a complete physical prior to enrollment like the school system does !

Absolutely we do...it is the exact same school form. However, the parents are not required to disclose any information beyond immunization, lead test, height/weight, and a few other things. There is a section that the doctor has to sign stating there is nothing preventing the child from attending school/daycare, like having TB or a chronic contagious infection that is a community health concern.

Things like HIV+, HepB, and any of the mental health issues (Autism, ODD, ADHD, bipolar...) absolutely are not issues that parents must disclose at any time for any reason. It is their right to medical privacy and the child's.

Does this affect the care given to the child? Of course, I would want to know these things to better serve the child...but the cold, hard truth is that it is not my right to know.

[sahm2three]

[QUOTE=Unregistered;191113]There is ONE exception that I could see as far as her not reacting: Does he do this often at home? My son did. After awhile, I learned how to take care of it myself and not rely on emergency services. There was one 911 call and one respiratory arrest in hospital after a surgery. I was always panicked and didn't allow my son to be with ANYONE but me. (he's a little spoiled now---unintentionally). If she's not just "used to it" because of something like what I went through, then I would report her ass. I would ask her though before you do. If she says "Oh he has apnea all the time and is fine..." then it may explain why she's shrugging it off (i.e. not a biggie to her because he's done it before and it's easy to take care of in her eyes)...but if she doesn't KNOW? That's just negligent!

Saying all the above, I have ALWAYS let any daycares know what's up at the phone interview. I wouldn't wait til an episode happens!

Did you give this mom your notice? I would have and NO refunds either. Maybe she'll shape up and get the kid some help. I would call CPS still though, since in HER case it sounds like she just doesn't care.[QUOTE/]

I have had him since he was 2 months old. He is 8 months. I have never had anything even remotely like this happen. She has never expressed any concerns about health in the past. The contrary, never seemed the least bit concerned about ANYTHING. This is the same baby I posted about his head swelling, and she called her doctor, or so she says, and said he was probably constipated. I since then have required a doctors note to re-enter daycare.

She finally called me last night. Says she took him to the doctor "just to make sure" that he was fine. She said the doctor said that the reason why he had the episode was because the crud in his chest was loose but he wasn't strong enough to cough it up. I told her that my decision to terminate still stands, I didn't feel like she reacted in the right way when I told her about what happened. She had no defense. I told her that I hoped she would start taking the health of her children more seriously from now on. She is mad, and got really short with me towards the end, but I am happy about my decision. I have all my paperwork in order, notes I have taken down throughout the time I have cared for him, so that I can call CPS on Monday if I come to that decision. Thank you all for your support.

[familyschoolcare]

let the stone throwing begin, but i think calling CPS is a little over the top!

If it is "over the top" the CPS will not do anything about it. As a mandated reporter it is our job to report things when even think might be a problem and let CPS decied if it is a problem.

[Unregistered LYNN]

[QUOTE=sahm2three;191161]

There is ONE exception that I could see as far as her not reacting: Does he do this often at home? My son did. After awhile, I learned how to take care of it myself and not rely on emergency services. There was one 911 call and one respiratory arrest in hospital after a surgery. I was always panicked and didn't allow my son to be with ANYONE but me. (he's a little spoiled now---unintentionally). If she's not just "used to it" because of something like what I went through, then I would report her ass. I would ask her though before you do. If she says "Oh he has apnea all the time and is fine..." then it may explain why she's shrugging it off (i.e. not a biggie to her because he's done it before and it's easy to take care of in her eyes)...but if she doesn't KNOW? That's just negligent!

Saying all the above, I have ALWAYS let any daycares know what's up at the phone interview. I wouldn't wait til an episode happens!

Did you give this mom your notice? I would have and NO refunds either. Maybe she'll shape up and get the kid some help. I would call CPS still though, since in HER case it sounds like she just doesn't care.[QUOTE/]

I have had him since he was 2 months old. He is 8 months. I have never had anything even remotely like this happen. She has never expressed any concerns about health in the past. The contrary, never seemed the least bit concerned about ANYTHING. This is the same baby I posted about his head swelling, and she called her doctor, or so she says, and said he was probably constipated. I since then have required a doctors note to re-enter daycare.

She finally called me last night. Says she took him to the doctor "just to make sure" that he was fine. She said the doctor said that the reason why he had the episode was because the crud in his chest was loose but he wasn't strong enough to cough it up. I told her that my decision to terminate still stands, I didn't feel like she reacted in the right way when I told her about what happened. She had no defense. I told her that I hoped she would start taking the health of her children more seriously from now on. She is mad, and got really short with me towards the end, but I am happy about my decision. I have all my paperwork in order, notes I have taken down throughout the time I have cared for him, so that I can call CPS on Monday if I come to that decision. Thank you all for your support.

Yeah I would still call, you are mandated. As scared as you are right now, just remember you never have to see this woman again, however her child does. Every day. You wouldn't want to read about the baby on the news, right? If nothing's wrong, then CPS will dismiss everything. But from what you told us, I sure hope she is required to complete some parenting classes and emergency preparedness classes at the very least. This is because you don't know #1 that she REALLY called anyone. She could just be saying that. #2 she's mad at YOU when she was in the wrong. My son has Hirschsprung's and has been FREQUENTLY constipated...his head has never been swollen from not pooping and this kid pushed out some "rocks" close to the size of a newborn's head! Sounds like this woman is just repeating behaviors...that's why you call CPS. (I was the original one that posted to you in your quote...my son's the apnea kid...Yep he has a lot of issues)