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  • youretooloud
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 1955

    #16
    I'd probably not terminate her over this. I'd let this be one of the final straws, but it wouldn't be the very last one.

    I think this child has some other issues that perhaps need to be addressed. Plus, just before age three, some kids are just super obnoxious.

    I feel like she's getting old enough to learn that this is not going to work for her, and you will be making her little world a very unpleasant place unless she stops biting.

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    • Crystal
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 4002

      #17
      OUCH! That sounds like a VERY nasty bite! Poor kid

      As for the biter, I'd say THAT bad of a bite is warrant for, at the very least, calling Mom at work and making her pick up for the day. That might give Mom the wake up call that it will come to term if not resolved right away. As far as terming, if Mom would end a 20+ year friendship because you need to protect the other children in care, then, I'd question the friendship anyway. As an adult, she needs to understand that, not only do you have to protect the other kids, you have to protect your income as well....how long are the "vicitms" parents going to allow it to continue before they start pulling their children?

      I'd ask myself, am I going to lose business from other clients if I continue to care for the biter.....if the answer is yes, it's time to term the biter.

      How did the victims mom take the phone call letting her know about the bite.....and, has she seen it yet?

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      • Meyou
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 2734

        #18
        Mom and Dad took it very well. Better than I did in fact. Dad said at pickup that he was sooo relieved that something major and serious hadn't happened that it put the bite in perspective for them before they saw it. When he saw my name come up on his phone he thought the worst. So the parents of the biter are concerned but trust me to resolve this in the best interests of all involved. I think it helped alot that her tetanus was up to date so they didn't have to come and get her to rush for a shot. Mom talked to their doctor on the phone within 30 minutes of the bite.

        There is no sign of swelling this morning so we have about 30 hours to wait before she is clear infection-wise according to the doctor.

        The parents of the biter are mortified and we're going to have a meeting tomorrow night to discuss an action plan to try and get the biter back under control. They understand I have to be able to assure all families that I can keep the group safe. I've set up a separate play space for DCG for the time being and she will only be with the group for planned activities like stories, crafts and meals. She can sit next to me during those activities.

        Crystal, I totally agree with you that a true friend wouldn't end a friendship over this so I hope I can sort this out with either a resolution or a termination and keep her. But I also understand that protecting the children in my care is of primary importance in this situation. I'm prepared to have her blame me although from the conversation last night I'm not sure what will happen at our meeting. They feel really bad, embarrassed, shocked and helpless about this. I think that's a good sign that we can come up with an action plan. I am prepared to terminate by the end of this month if things don't improve and I will tell them that at our meeting. I have a new baby starting Jan.2 and I need to fix this one way or another by that time.

        Thank you all for your advice and comments. I had some horrible guilt yesterday for failing to protect one of my munchkins but today I'm prepared to tackle this and win. I confessed my guilt to the dad of the victim last night and he laughed. He said she comes in black and blue every Monday from their awesome parenting and I return her healed up on Fridays every week so who is doing the better job? ::

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        • Blackcat31
          • Oct 2010
          • 36124

          #19
          Meyou~ Feels so awesome to have great parents that are willing and open to work with you! I am glad you are all able to meet and figure out a way to deal with this issue.

          In the meantime I would definitley research some ways or dealing with a biter and being bitten so that you can have an arsenal of ideas ready for the meeting and so that you are able to be open to having to try multiple things before it is resolved. Plus, if it ever happens again (having a biter) you will be more than prepared with solutions to try.

          So glad your parents are so awesome with you!

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          • Meyou
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 2734

            #20
            Me too, blackcat. Hopefully we can work out something that will resolve the situation. I've been researching all day and I spoke to several local 30+ years of experience providers to get their thoughts too. I think I'm prepared for our meeting.

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            • Meyou
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 2734

              #21
              Our meeting went well and I learned some things that clarify ALOT of this child's behavior for me. The biggest one being she hasn't napped at home in 4 months which coincides with the start of the biting. All of the biting occurred on a Monday OR on a day after a day at home and always in the morning. Thank goodness I keep good records. I'd mentioned to Mom and Dad that she was very tired most Mondays and often laid down with the babies at morning nap for a rest because she was too tired to play. They normally said "busy weekend" and never once mentioned not napping at home. I think this is a huge part of the problem. But all in all we have a plan and we're going to try and sort this little lady out.

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              • Blackcat31
                • Oct 2010
                • 36124

                #22
                Originally posted by Meyou
                Our meeting went well and I learned some things that clarify ALOT of this child's behavior for me. The biggest one being she hasn't napped at home in 4 months which coincides with the start of the biting. All of the biting occurred on a Monday OR on a day after a day at home and always in the morning. Thank goodness I keep good records. I'd mentioned to Mom and Dad that she was very tired most Mondays and often laid down with the babies at morning nap for a rest because she was too tired to play. They normally said "busy weekend" and never once mentioned not napping at home. I think this is a huge part of the problem. But all in all we have a plan and we're going to try and sort this little lady out.
                happyface That is awesome that you were able to get to the root of the issue! Always makes solving the puzzle easier! I hope things work out and this little gal becomes a joy again soon...minus the teeth! LOL!!

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                • babofmiracles
                  babofmiracles
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 5

                  #23
                  new

                  hello i also have two dachshunds pups boy n girl they are good but like to get out n play love kids as well i dont let them outside to much they more in house pups but i will be starting my daycare soon next year i will only have a few kids maybe 3 but iam not sure what to do with my pups i cant keep them cage in all day any ideas ???? happyface

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                  • Crystal
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 4002

                    #24
                    Originally posted by babofmiracles
                    hello i also have two dachshunds pups boy n girl they are good but like to get out n play love kids as well i dont let them outside to much they more in house pups but i will be starting my daycare soon next year i will only have a few kids maybe 3 but iam not sure what to do with my pups i cant keep them cage in all day any ideas ???? happyface
                    huh? that was random ::

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                    • WImom
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 1639

                      #25
                      There was another post today about puppies and I'm thinking she just posted in the wrong spot.

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                      • Crystal
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 4002

                        #26
                        haha. yeah, I just thought it was funny ::

                        Welcome babofmiracles! happyface

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                        • Meyou
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 2734

                          #27
                          Maybe my non-biting action plan can be applied to nippy dachshunds too! ::::

                          Welcome to the forum babofmiracles!

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