Observing Before They Go With Me

[Crystal]

This is why others attack you- and the fact that you hardly ever agree with anyone other then yourself-

SILVER....please excuse me, as I saw that you "barely" approved unregistereds post, but I am going to respond. Feel free to remove my post if you feel the need

LOL! Sure. Perhaps you should go through my 1900+ posts so you know that that is simply not true. BUT, I will say, I am not going to agree when I simply do not agree.

Anyways....the beginning of this thread, my first post, was a simple polite disagreement and advice to a member who ASKED for advice and then I was attacked. Honestly though, I don't care if others attack me.....I will continue to speak my beliefs and share my experience....and use the attacks as entertainment, because indeed, that is what they are to me happyface


And to that, anyone can say whatever they want, I have plans for a beautiful day and will carry on regardless of what others think of me

[wdmmom]

SILVER....please excuse me, as I saw that you "barely" approved unregistereds post, but I am going to respond. Feel free to remove my post if you feel the need

LOL! Sure. Perhaps you should go through my 1900+ posts so you know that that is simply not true. BUT, I will say, I am not going to agree when I simply do not agree.

Anyways....the beginning of this thread, my first post, was a simple polite disagreement and advice to a member who ASKED for advice and then I was attacked. Honestly though, I don't care if others attack me.....I will continue to speak my beliefs and share my experience....and use the attacks as entertainment, because indeed, that is what they are to me happyface

Now, my comment about other members....well, even wdmmom recently posted some very NASTY stuff about a child and family.....one that she terminated care for....but of course as soon as she and Nan were called out on it, it conveniently "disappeared" (there are other members here who saw it, not just me) So.....I stand by my comment that I wouldn't trust another provider (unless I knew them EXTREMELY well, based on reading posts on this forum.

And to that, anyone can say whatever they want, I have plans for a beautiful day and will carry on regardless of what others think of me

Ummm...Who do you think you are?!

If you so conveniently remember, you would know that I was not the one to terminate. They gave notice and I was happy about it.

Sorry if my happiness was "inappropriate" in your eyes.

If you were in my shoes and you knew the entire story, I'm sure your views would be different.

This post has nothing to do with the thread at hand. You don't know me, you don't know my system, you haven't been in my home or inspected me so you don't have ANY room to talk ANYTHING about me.

[Zoe]

Zoe, I am sorry your son went thru this! Did your provider have anything to say about this? i am assuming you withdrew immediately.

I withdrew immediately and found a neighbor to watch my kids while I looked for other care. I didn't say anything at pick-up I was just so in shock. I called my DH immediately to calm myself down until I got home. The provider said (over the phone once I got home) that she just wanted to have him ready for me and she was rushing and he wouldn't sit still. She was hysterical about it, and so was I. I told her there was really no excuse for what she did. It was a very emotional conversation and she asked for forgiveness, something I wasn't able to do at the time. I had DH go collect our children's things that evening. That was it.

[Crystal]

Ummm...Who do you think you are?!

If you so conveniently remember, you would know that I was not the one to terminate. They gave notice and I was happy about it.

Sorry if my happiness was "inappropriate" in your eyes.

If you were in my shoes and you knew the entire story, I'm sure your views would be different.

This post has nothing to do with the thread at hand. You don't know me, you don't know my system, you haven't been in my home or inspected me so you don't have ANY room to talk ANYTHING about me.

My apologies. I did not see you had responded and felt bad about what I posted and removed it prior to seeing this. Really, I am sorry.

[Cat Herder]

I don't think your grief is funny. It will never be funny. I can't imagine what you went through and am sending you a big hug. You will never be the same- but I admire you for moving on and living for the people around you that still need you and the people that you touch in your walk of life.

Out of experience- The only thing that heals a loss is time, and that never totally closes up the wound. It's like a bruise if you touch it just right it still hurts.
Cat has mentioned this before and I believe that the grief she's referring to is grief over the stupid regulations being put forth in her state and the dumb ways in which she has to change her program in order to be in compliance.

Thank you, Silver.... lovethis I just got notification that I can't use my pretty pillows that I made for all my DCK's (not infants) anymore, either. No pillows until 3 years old. (My friend in town got inspected during naptime yesterday and was told to get rid of hers, too)

I am going to be a sterile hospital environment in a couple years at this rate.

Ugh, again, I am sure it has to do with someone not supervising and something bad happening somewhere.....

The kids LOVE their pillows..... I guess I will send them home with them.

[Crystal]

Thank you, Silver.... lovethis I just got notification that I can't use my pretty pillows that I made for all my DCK's (not infants) anymore, either. No pillows until 3 years old. (My friend in town got inspected and was told to get rid of hers, too)

I am going to be a sterile hospital environment in a couple years at this rate.

Ugh, again, I am sure it has to do with someone not supervising and something bad happening somewhere.....

The kids LOVE their pillows..... I guess I will send them home with them.

Wow Cat....they are really getting carried away. I don't think I could continue under the conditions they are creating!!!

[Cat Herder]

Wow Cat....they are really getting carried away. I don't think I could continue under the conditions they are creating!!!

I understand the no playing sidewalk chalk in the driveway (kids cannot be outside of 100% fenced area at all), no climbers in the playroom, and breastmilk is to be kept in a seperate fridge...(well, sortof)... but the special pillows is one of the little things that make the kids feel at home.

They pick out their own fabric... They get them once they transition from a crib to a mat, like a trophy. It means something to them.

I will probably find a way to loophole it... maybe by making them into teddy bears. Stuffed animals are allowed, after all. :confused:

Just frustrating....

Sorry for off topic, OP.

[cheerfuldom]

just add a head so it is sort of a pillow pet......would that be okay? man, some of the licensing rules I hear about are really tough. I always move at least one small climber into our playroom during the winter. the kids need ways to expel energy constructively!

[Crystal]

Awwww....that's sad for the kiddos, Cat.

Yeah, try making them into pillow pets like Cheerful said.....if they allow stuffed animals, then that should be fine.

I don't get the no climbers in the playroom, though. I mean, if you have adequate fall zone and cushioning then what's the difference between inside and outside?? :confused:

[Cat Herder]

Awwww....that's sad for the kiddos, Cat.

Yeah, try making them into pillow pets like Cheerful said.....if they allow stuffed animals, then that should be fine.

I don't get the no climbers in the playroom, though. I mean, if you have adequate fall zone and cushioning then what's the difference between inside and outside?? :confused:

I don't know. The lady from CCR&R that I spoke with did not know. It was just a check box on her monitoring form. She needs her paycheck, too.

I am putting in a formal request at the State level explaining that it keeps me from meeting their physical development needs (large muscle groups) during inclement weather.

My hope is that this constant pressure has more to do with a sub-contractor situation than with the State itself. Fingers crossed for me.

I may be a Walmart greeter soon.


Edited to add: I just noticed that those pillow pets are now being marketed to daycare providers WITH the Kindermat sheets (the links are given to us by CCR&R on the website). Ugh..... I guess I SHOULD have seen the pillow one coming....

They are also marketing the stand alone, heated water, handwashing sinks. I guess I need to start saving for one of those, too, now.... Where's the motrin...

[Unregistered]

I think almost all of us are warm and caring, supportive people- we have to be, we tolerate so many different people. When providers come to the boards its usually for help towards a problem, so it does look like we complain etc... a lot. We don't. We are just looking for support towards a situation. Unless you have great families that you are working with- all being great(yes it does happen) your lucky because I have been doing this for a long time and in many avenues of care- you see it all. Right now I have awesome families, not always been the case. When you are a loving,caring person it takes you even further back to fathom that someone else could not be on their game, esp having a love for the children and care and concern. So don't roll us all into one nut shell ball and assume we should be and we are not.

I absolutely agree that most providers are warm, loving and caring. I NEVER said ALL in anything I posted. I said, there are so many providers..... I think there happens to be several who have gone beyond venting and looking for support to expressing outright unhappiness with the job.

I didn't roll you all into one nutshell and assume you should or shouldn't be anything. There are many providers on this forum who are obviously wonderfully caring and happy providers.

But after reading for a while, you can easily pick up on the fact that it is painfully obvious that there are a few who really do not seem to want to be doing this job. THOSE are the few I was referring to. THOSE are the few I am saddened by. The providers who seem to have an air of superiority and post in a condescending manner in regard to 'all parents'.

Just as providers are all different and do things in our own styles, so do parents. Why is it we, as providers, so quickly defend our right to be different and do "what works for you" but do not give the same privilege to parents?

FWIW~ I am a provider too. I have also been in this business for many many many years and have worked in many different capacities in the field.

[Meeko]

I have come to the conclusion that day care rules are not always changed in the best interests of the KIDS. It's all about somebody at the state needing job security...so rules must be changed willy nilly.

We re-licensed recently. We now have to have the health department come out and inspect the kitchen instead of licensing.

I was all for this as I hoped it would help make sure kitchens are clean and healthy. (I've seen some day care ones that I would NEVER eat out of)

I expected an inviromental health, restaurant type inspection.

Noooooooo. All the "inspection" is......is a mere 9 questions.

"Does the kitchen appear clean?"
"Is the fridge in working order"
"Hand soap available"

...to mention a few. We have to pay $60 for this. It takes less than a minute.

There is NOTHING on the list that my licensor couldn't have asked or looked at.

It's just the state money grubbing $60 from some of the worst paid workers there are.

Maddening. And nobody can give me an answer that amounts to a hill of beans.

[Crystal]

I absolutely agree that most providers are warm, loving and caring. I NEVER said ALL in anything I posted. I said, there are so many providers..... I think there happens to be several who have gone beyond venting and looking for support to expressing outright unhappiness with the job.

I didn't roll you all into one nutshell and assume you should or shouldn't be anything. There are many providers on this forum who are obviously wonderfully caring and happy providers.

But after reading for a while, you can easily pick up on the fact that it is painfully obvious that there are a few who really do not seem to want to be doing this job. THOSE are the few I was referring to. THOSE are the few I am saddened by. The providers who seem to have an air of superiority and post in a condescending manner in regard to 'all parents'.

Just as providers are all different and do things in our own styles, so do parents. Why is it we, as providers, so quickly defend our right to be different and do "what works for you" but do not give the same privilege to parents?

FWIW~ I am a provider too. I have also been in this business for many many many years and have worked in many different capacities in the field.

Nice post. Thank you.

[Ariana]

I'm glad it was 10 minutes even if thats is silly for him to be happy with. That obviously did the trick. If someone watched me for 90 minutes I would die.

I think it's more for the parent to see you not refuse ya know? Like you have nothing to hide. At least that's how I see it. If I was a parent in his shoes I would want the same thing. If a provider refused it would send redflags for me personally....unless she was able to offer me a reasonable explanation like children's safety or some of the things mentioned here.


Anyway I'm glad it's over!! PHEW

[renodeb]

I have never had a request for the parent to come back and observe. I have nothing to hide but it would make me uncomfortable. I have had a few parents ask specifically to come during buisness hours so they can see (then I just pick a day that I have the least kids so its not mahem.) If its an infant I dont see why they need to see you in action. What are they going to do sit and stare at you? I would say no. Visitors always wind my group up. I would just explain that to them. I fyou end up having them come set a definate time. 30 max IMO. Good luck!

Debbie