Food Program Milk Change...

[familyschoolcare]

Really? My food program told me that they wouldn't have details on whether they would even implement it until October 1st and that at that point they would send us all notices telling us whether they would start January 1st or not and how to actually implement it. I still havn't received anything so as far as I know we don't have to start yet.

I am on 4c's food program which one are you on?

[daycare]

I have to disagree with you here. The difference between 1 cup of 1% and 2% is 2 grams of fat.

99% fat free yogurt has only 1.5grams of fat BUT it has 26g of sugar.
Pepsi has 0g of fat, but about 30g of sugar per cup. Which is healthier?

The National Institute of Medicine recommends that children between the ages of 1 and 3 intake 30 to 40 percent of their daily calories from fat. When determining the recommended fat intake for each age group, the National Institute of Medicine takes into account the energy expenditure and an allowance for growth. Toddlers between the ages of 1 and 3 have a high activity level and a fast rate of growth and development but their appetite and food intake can be erratic. Some days the child may seem to eat everything in sight while other days they eat nothing. Consuming a higher fat intake helps kids in this age group meet their daily energy needs.

IMHO, the cause of obesity in children is cause by lack of exercise and the constant stream of fast food and junk.

Heaven forbid a child run and play at school. (I've heard, but have no data to back me up, that schools are planning on cutting down on recess time to allow more class time.) The kids are being "taught to the test", have to force this much info into them in a limited amount of time. By the time they get home from school they have another couple of hours of homework to do, then it's dinner, tv or video games, bath, and bed.

I live on a quiet street of 17 houses, 29 kids live here. I can't tell you what most of the kids look like. In 6 yrs, I've only seen a few of them outside playing.

This is the infomation that i collected from the food program itself. I had some parents upset over the changes of the milk and I asked the Food Program to elborate on it. This is pretty much the exact information that they gave me. Perhaps I am not understanding something here, but this is waht I am reading on the letter they gave me....

As for your question about the soda and yogurt, neither is a healtheir option in my eyes. they are both processed and the only fat we should consume is natural fats. Like fats some avacodos....

[sharlan]

This is the infomation that i collected from the food program itself. I had some parents upset over the changes of the milk and I asked the Food Program to elborate on it. This is pretty much the exact information that they gave me. Perhaps I am not understanding something here, but this is waht I am reading on the letter they gave me....

As for your question about the soda and yogurt, neither is a healtheir option in my eyes. they are both processed and the only fat we should consume is natural fats. Like fats some avacodos....

I am not disagreeing with the info you have as much as I am with the food programs and such that are forcing this issue. I've spoken with 2 different drs on this issue, both said they didn't feel that milk was the issue.

In a perfect world, yes. But how many avocados are you going to get a 2 yo to eat in order for it to be 40% of their caloric intake?

I refuse to believe that the few grams of fat that a child gets per day from 2% to 1% is the cause of childhoold obesity. If you count 3 glasses of 2% versus 1%, you're talking 60 calories and 6 grams of fat. That's approximately 2 chicken nuggets from McD's.

[sharlan]

schools are planning on cutting down on recess time to allow more class time.)

I think they are planning to cut the school day down in time and the number of days in school down. I think the recess thing is to have the kids there as few minutes per year as they are required by law to do instruction time.

My school district started doing first Wednesday of the month early out... then it went to every other Wednesday... then to every wednesday. I think they will eventually cut every Wednesday out completely to go to a four day week. Once they get everyone used to that then they will have Wednesday switch to Friday.

They are selling the early outs for teacher planning and meetings but the truth is that it hasn't improved our kids academic performance in any measurable way. It's not making any difference.

We used to have one week for spring break. Over the last decade they have increased that to eight school days. We used to have one early out on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving and Friday after Thanksgiving... now it's a full three days off.

Conferences used to be an early out on Thursday and no school on Friday. Now it's a full three days for October conferences.

Every single month of school from September to May with the exception of the month of April there is at least one full day off of school. April still has the four early Wednesdays out.

They have cut the days out of school so dramatically since the 90's it's unbelievable. We had six snow days last year and the teachers union threw a fit about makeup days. We made up two and the other four were forgiven. This is on top of the many many days they have off early and completely out.

What happened to going to school Monday thru Friday from the end of August till the begining of June and having a week off at Xmas and a week off at Spring break... and thanksgiving a four day weekend?

When you have so many special days you have kids and teachers LIVING for the special days off. It's so disruptive to the families and the kids. We need stable school schedules with a decent length day (7 hours at least) with a good lunch break and outdoor break in the middle of it. The little kids need three breaks a day to go out and get some fresh air.

I think they are going to doink with it so much and make so much special in it that people are going to start wanting to do some version of online or home schooling because working around their constant times off will be harder than just doing it themselves at home.

I think that will start happening when they cut the school week to four days.

Our local school got out at 12 every day this week for parent/teacher conferences. They have 11/11 off AND the whole week of Thanksgiving.

[nannyde]

My theory on the milk change is that it was the only thing to change to address childhood obesity that wouldn't affect the pocket book of big ag and the dairy industry.

Pulling the fat off of milk gives more profit to the dairy industry. They still get to sell their base product but have the cream from the milk to make other products where they make a sizeable profit.

Allowing sugar milk keeps the corn industry in business because the flavored milk is sweetened by high fructose corn syrup.

Win win for big ag.

If the feds would have gone after ANYTHING else they would have had Big Ag and the chemical companies that service big ag (MONSANTO ) shutting it down.

It LOOKS like it's for the bayyyyyyyyyyybeeeees... but it's not. It's for the pocketbooks of the ones who have gotten us into this mess in the first place.

[familyschoolcare]

Childhood obesity is not cause by one thing it is many things. The argument that something is not what cause obesity can be made for any one of the things that add to it.

[nannyde]

Oh and one more thing:

The bottom line will be that this change will not affect childhood obesity at all. It won't stop the rise in each age group of obesity. It won't stop the statistics from marching upwards. The age of the biggest group increasing in obesity WILL go down into under twos.

The government may be able to come up with statistics to further this but as each kid is weighed at the docs office the truth will come out. The onset of diabetes will get younger and younger.

This isn't even a tiny nudge into childhood obesity. It will make companies richer but it won't make the kids healthier.

Providers won't comply to it because they are having a hard enough time selling whole milk. They will either resort to candy milk or they will just give the whole as they have been.

We need to start approving OTHER liquids. The truth is that most day care kids are drinking whole milk and drinking apple juice as their primary source of liquids when the provider is doing credible liquids. When they aren't doing that they are having some kind of candy liquids. We need to start looking at soy, rice, almond milks and water, teas, etc. that we can give the kids as credible.

[queenbee]

Oh and one more thing:

The bottom line will be that this change will not affect childhood obesity at all. It won't stop the rise in each age group of obesity. It won't stop the statistics from marching upwards. The age of the biggest group increasing in obesity WILL go down into under twos.

The government may be able to come up with statistics to further this but as each kid is weighed at the docs office the truth will come out. The onset of diabetes will get younger and younger.

This isn't even a tiny nudge into childhood obesity. It will make companies richer but it won't make the kids healthier.

Providers won't comply to it because they are having a hard enough time selling whole milk. They will either resort to candy milk or they will just give the whole as they have been.

We need to start approving OTHER liquids. The truth is that most day care kids are drinking whole milk and drinking apple juice as their primary source of liquids when the provider is doing credible liquids. When they aren't doing that they are having some kind of candy liquids. We need to start looking at soy, rice, almond milks and water, teas, etc. that we can give the kids as credible.

I give rice milk to my 12 - 24 months dcks and Soy or Almond milk to my 2's and up. The children don't even bat an eyelash at the difference of the milk at daycare and the "milk" they get at home.

I love it when new parents will go on and on about the calcium and "nutritious" value of cow milks and how their child won't drink that at daycare. I have an empty milk carton on hand and I will have them compare the differences in calcium and the nutritious value they think cow milk has over almond/soy or rice milk

I'll even go as far as handing their child a cup of almond or rice milk to try and once that kid ****s down it like it's their last drink........I have no further complaints from them

[nannyde]

I give rice milk to my 12 - 24 months dcks and Soy or Almond milk to my 2's and up. The children don't even bat an eyelash at the difference of the milk at daycare and the "milk" they get at home.

I love it when new parents will go on and on about the calcium and "nutritious" value of cow milks and how their child won't drink that at daycare. I have an empty milk carton on hand and I will have them compare the differences in calcium and the nutritious value they think cow milk has over almond/soy or rice milk

I'll even go as far as handing their child a cup of almond or rice milk to try and once that kid ****s down it like it's their last drink........I have no further complaints from them

I love all of those. I've gone off of cows milk completely. I don't think we are allowed to serve them on the food program. I haven't looked it up but I'm pretty sure we have to do cows milk unless we have a doc order.

[STARSHINE852]

Another note

I just received a letter yesteday on another change. It's now Whole milk for children 1-2years. Children over 2years will drink the 1%..I wish they would get it together..UGHH