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  • MarinaVanessa
    Family Childcare Home
    • Jan 2010
    • 7211

    #16
    Originally posted by familyschoolcare
    I am in cal and my food program strted oct 1st check with your or you will not get you money for october
    Really? My food program told me that they wouldn't have details on whether they would even implement it until October 1st and that at that point they would send us all notices telling us whether they would start January 1st or not and how to actually implement it. I still havn't received anything so as far as I know we don't have to start yet.

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    • snbauser
      Daycare.com Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 1385

      #17
      We were required to make the change effective October 1st. I started gradually changing over the beginning of August so that we were 100% 1% by October 1st. The kids never noticed and drink just as much as before.

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      • Heidi
        Daycare.com Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 7121

        #18
        Yeah, it's supposed to be obesity prevention, but I honestly dont believe kids are fat because of milk! How about 3 hours of TV a day? Video games? Soda on a regular basis? We drink 1% anyway, but it's the principle of the thing, again. Make up rules that don't address the real issue....argg..

        Under 2, they still recommend whole milk or 2%for brain development. I am not, however, willing to buy 3 different (or even 2) different kinds of milk. My own kids are used to 1%, but if I started buying 2% for the babies, and 1% for everyone else, guess what my kids would drink?

        My dc parents agreed that I will continue to serve 1% here, and they will serve 2% at home. None of my dc kids have weight issues. They are a very active bunch!

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        • daycare
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          • Feb 2011
          • 16259

          #19
          same here mine was effective oct 1

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          • MarinaVanessa
            Family Childcare Home
            • Jan 2010
            • 7211

            #20
            I just called and it looks like we should have started the 1st also. I guess our food prpgram is not that organized. My rep said that they still didn't have notices to give out so they've been only telling the DC's they've been visiting .

            I prefer serving the 1% anyway so it's good news to me also.

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            • queenbee
              Daycare.com Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 132

              #21
              Milk? Yuck!

              Thankfully, I am a Vegetarian daycare and I only serve Soy, Almond and Rice milk for all children. Much more yummy

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              • Solandia
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 372

                #22
                I only buy whole milk. I use it primarily for cooking and for my coffee. The dck's that drink milk get it. My 15mo drinks it. My older kids only have milk in their cereal...once/wk. They didn't really have much milk until they were 3-5yo, once they finally started to outgrow their dairy issues. Milk has never been a major contributor to the fat in our diet. I grew up a farm girl, I would rather not have any milk (not even for cereal), than 2% or *shudder* skim.

                IMO---Milk is not the huge thing in the obesity issue....but it is the easiest one to control by implementing restrictions through the food program, WIC, dr visit advice, etc... How many parents are going to listen a PSA about "don't buy your kids crap for food", but they WILL pay attention when daycare only provides *** kind of milk or WIC will only cover *** kind of milk.

                My daycare kids get 8oz of milk per day (two 4oz servings at meals). We have juice once/wk (4oz/week). Otherwise it is water only.

                Really, other than for cooking, i would be happy to ditch milk altogether. There really isn't a huge need to drink our calcium. We have plenty of other sources, and the kids get VitD supplements in the fall & winter.

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                • Heidi
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 7121

                  #23
                  Originally posted by queenbee
                  Milk? Yuck!

                  Thankfully, I am a Vegetarian daycare and I only serve Soy, Almond and Rice milk for all children. Much more yummy
                  No a vegie myself, but I LOVE vanilla soy milk..Silk brand!

                  I was suffering from a LOT of power surges until I started drinking a big glass of soymilk and taking a womens 50+ vitamin everyday. I don't know which did the trick, but I am thankful! Alas, I am only 47...

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                  • MarinaVanessa
                    Family Childcare Home
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 7211

                    #24
                    Originally posted by queenbee
                    Milk? Yuck!

                    Thankfully, I am a Vegetarian daycare and I only serve Soy, Almond and Rice milk for all children. Much more yummy
                    Unfortunately for us that are on the food program we aren't allowed to use anything other than cow's milk otherwise the entire meal doesn't count and we don't get reimbursed. Otherwise I would also prefer to serve soy or almond milk. The benefits are the same except less fat and no cholesterol.

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                    • Toni's Tots
                      New Daycare.com Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 18

                      #25
                      I know that Minnesota has done something like that for the WIC program over a year ago. I think it has something to do with the fat content in the milk.

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                      • sharlan
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 6067

                        #26
                        Originally posted by daycare
                        I dont eat or drink dairy, so I don't care for myself, but I do think that it was a smart move on the food programs part.

                        the daily fat difference between 2% and 1% milk is huge.

                        2% has around 45 % calories from fat

                        1% has about 21% calories from fat

                        that is a huge difference and i think could also be one of the reason why so many children are so over weight.
                        I have to disagree with you here. The difference between 1 cup of 1% and 2% is 2 grams of fat.

                        99% fat free yogurt has only 1.5grams of fat BUT it has 26g of sugar.
                        Pepsi has 0g of fat, but about 30g of sugar per cup. Which is healthier?

                        The National Institute of Medicine recommends that children between the ages of 1 and 3 intake 30 to 40 percent of their daily calories from fat. When determining the recommended fat intake for each age group, the National Institute of Medicine takes into account the energy expenditure and an allowance for growth. Toddlers between the ages of 1 and 3 have a high activity level and a fast rate of growth and development but their appetite and food intake can be erratic. Some days the child may seem to eat everything in sight while other days they eat nothing. Consuming a higher fat intake helps kids in this age group meet their daily energy needs.

                        IMHO, the cause of obesity in children is cause by lack of exercise and the constant stream of fast food and junk.

                        Heaven forbid a child run and play at school. (I've heard, but have no data to back me up, that schools are planning on cutting down on recess time to allow more class time.) The kids are being "taught to the test", have to force this much info into them in a limited amount of time. By the time they get home from school they have another couple of hours of homework to do, then it's dinner, tv or video games, bath, and bed.

                        I live on a quiet street of 17 houses, 29 kids live here. I can't tell you what most of the kids look like. In 6 yrs, I've only seen a few of them outside playing.

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                        • MarinaVanessa
                          Family Childcare Home
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 7211

                          #27
                          Originally posted by sharlan

                          I live on a quiet street of 17 houses, 29 kids live here. I can't tell you what most of the kids look like. In 6 yrs, I've only seen a few of them outside playing.
                          I have to agree with you. What I quoted from you is IMO why so many kids are overweight nowadays. I have a 2yo DCK that can barely talk but sings the McDonald's tune here at daycare "Para-pa pah-pah" and each time he plays with our alphabet puzzle he gets the yellow M and sings the tune. So sad.

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                          • sharlan
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 6067

                            #28
                            Chicken nugget Happy Meal

                            4 pcs chicken 190 calories and 12g fat
                            kids size fries 100 calories and 5g fat

                            Without a soda your talking 290 calories and 17g of fat. That 2g of fat in a cup of milk is negligible.

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                            • nannyde
                              All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 7320

                              #29
                              Originally posted by sharlan
                              I have to disagree with you here. The difference between 1 cup of 1% and 2% is 2 grams of fat.

                              99% fat free yogurt has only 1.5grams of fat BUT it has 26g of sugar.
                              Pepsi has 0g of fat, but about 30g of sugar per cup. Which is healthier?

                              The National Institute of Medicine recommends that children between the ages of 1 and 3 intake 30 to 40 percent of their daily calories from fat. When determining the recommended fat intake for each age group, the National Institute of Medicine takes into account the energy expenditure and an allowance for growth. Toddlers between the ages of 1 and 3 have a high activity level and a fast rate of growth and development but their appetite and food intake can be erratic. Some days the child may seem to eat everything in sight while other days they eat nothing. Consuming a higher fat intake helps kids in this age group meet their daily energy needs.

                              IMHO, the cause of obesity in children is cause by lack of exercise and the constant stream of fast food and junk.

                              Heaven forbid a child run and play at school. (I've heard, but have no data to back me up, that schools are planning on cutting down on recess time to allow more class time.) The kids are being "taught to the test", have to force this much info into them in a limited amount of time. By the time they get home from school they have another couple of hours of homework to do, then it's dinner, tv or video games, bath, and bed.

                              I live on a quiet street of 17 houses, 29 kids live here. I can't tell you what most of the kids look like. In 6 yrs, I've only seen a few of them outside playing.
                              schools are planning on cutting down on recess time to allow more class time.)

                              I think they are planning to cut the school day down in time and the number of days in school down. I think the recess thing is to have the kids there as few minutes per year as they are required by law to do instruction time.

                              My school district started doing first Wednesday of the month early out... then it went to every other Wednesday... then to every wednesday. I think they will eventually cut every Wednesday out completely to go to a four day week. Once they get everyone used to that then they will have Wednesday switch to Friday.

                              They are selling the early outs for teacher planning and meetings but the truth is that it hasn't improved our kids academic performance in any measurable way. It's not making any difference.

                              We used to have one week for spring break. Over the last decade they have increased that to eight school days. We used to have one early out on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving and Friday after Thanksgiving... now it's a full three days off.

                              Conferences used to be an early out on Thursday and no school on Friday. Now it's a full three days for October conferences.

                              Every single month of school from September to May with the exception of the month of April there is at least one full day off of school. April still has the four early Wednesdays out.

                              They have cut the days out of school so dramatically since the 90's it's unbelievable. We had six snow days last year and the teachers union threw a fit about makeup days. We made up two and the other four were forgiven. This is on top of the many many days they have off early and completely out.

                              What happened to going to school Monday thru Friday from the end of August till the begining of June and having a week off at Xmas and a week off at Spring break... and thanksgiving a four day weekend?

                              When you have so many special days you have kids and teachers LIVING for the special days off. It's so disruptive to the families and the kids. We need stable school schedules with a decent length day (7 hours at least) with a good lunch break and outdoor break in the middle of it. The little kids need three breaks a day to go out and get some fresh air.

                              I think they are going to doink with it so much and make so much special in it that people are going to start wanting to do some version of online or home schooling because working around their constant times off will be harder than just doing it themselves at home.

                              I think that will start happening when they cut the school week to four days.
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                              • mom2many
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Jun 2011
                                • 1278

                                #30
                                Originally posted by familyschoolcare
                                I am in cal and my food program strted oct 1st check with your or you will not get you money for october
                                This is what I was told too. I'm also in Ca and my food program agency notified us that as of Oct. 1st, we must serve the 1% to 2 and up and whole milk to the 1 & 2 yo.

                                I am wasting a lot of milk too...the older kids hate it and have told me the milk tastes bad.

                                It is a little crazy, because they said it's okay to serve "flavored" milk...which adds more calories and sugar to the 1%, but whole milk is banned. Makes no sense to me!

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