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  • ZenZen Hen
    Daycare.com Member
    • Sep 2016
    • 4

    A troublesome parent was upset that her kid had a rock thrown at them (after the child went and poked another child in the eye). She wanted the name of the child who had thrown the rock, going so far as to ask her barely 2 year old child who he poked (he didn't understand the question) after I denied her request TWICE.
    She complained that its "difficult for her" when some people here tell her things and others don't. I wish I had been quick enough to say that "others breaking policy does not reflect on the fact that I will adhere to our policy to protect the identities of children and their families while in attendance at the center."
    Instead I told her to take it up with managment. To make it worse her older child was there (smart, smart cookie) asking me why I wouldn't tell her mom who did it.

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    • springv
      Daycare.com Member
      • Sep 2017
      • 468

      Originally posted by ZenZen Hen
      A troublesome parent was upset that her kid had a rock thrown at them (after the child went and poked another child in the eye). She wanted the name of the child who had thrown the rock, going so far as to ask her barely 2 year old child who he poked (he didn't understand the question) after I denied her request TWICE.
      She complained that its "difficult for her" when some people here tell her things and others don't. I wish I had been quick enough to say that "others breaking policy does not reflect on the fact that I will adhere to our policy to protect the identities of children and their families while in attendance at the center."
      Instead I told her to take it up with managment. To make it worse her older child was there (smart, smart cookie) asking me why I wouldn't tell her mom who did it.
      I would've told the parent that if they've got a problem with the care and also have problems with the employees then they can find new care. I would also tell the older child in the parents presence that what happens at daycare stays at daycare and that the older child shouldn't listen to adult conversations and to keep their opinion to theirselves and their mouths shut!!!!!😠😠😠

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      • Former Teacher
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 1331

        Originally posted by ZenZen Hen
        A troublesome parent was upset that her kid had a rock thrown at them (after the child went and poked another child in the eye). She wanted the name of the child who had thrown the rock, going so far as to ask her barely 2 year old child who he poked (he didn't understand the question) after I denied her request TWICE.
        She complained that its "difficult for her" when some people here tell her things and others don't. I wish I had been quick enough to say that "others breaking policy does not reflect on the fact that I will adhere to our policy to protect the identities of children and their families while in attendance at the center."
        Instead I told her to take it up with managment. To make it worse her older child was there (smart, smart cookie) asking me why I wouldn't tell her mom who did it.
        I remember once when a 2, almost 3 year old got bit. The Director told the parent of the child who was bitten. She didn't name names. She just explained there was a fight and before the caregiver went over there (she was changing a diaper and couldn't get there fast enough) the child was bitten.

        The mother was furious. She demanded to know who bit her son etc etc. Finally the Director told her that while SHE couldn't give the name of the child, if she wanted to ask her child, he could. The mother kept on asking but he wouldn't tell her. Probably because it was he himself who started all the BS and deserved to be bit ::

        Just kidding! Well....he did start it....he just didn't finish it.

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        • ZenZen Hen
          Daycare.com Member
          • Sep 2016
          • 4

          Originally posted by springvalley112
          I would've told the parent that if they've got a problem with the care and also have problems with the employees then they can find new care. I would also tell the older child in the parents presence that what happens at daycare stays at daycare and that the older child shouldn't listen to adult conversations and to keep their opinion to theirselves and their mouths shut!!!!!😠😠😠
          If I had responded with such wording I would have been written up, guaranteed. Also, the child is four, quite smart and empathetic, why wouldn't she listen to adult conversation? :confused:That's an avenue for children to learn through.

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          • daycarediva
            Daycare.com Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 11698

            "This is age appropriate behavior for children that age. We have X safety measures in place to prevent future incidents. In addition, we did speak to your child about poking peers. I also did not disclose the name of your child to the other's parents."

            Geeze, helicopter parents.

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            • springv
              Daycare.com Member
              • Sep 2017
              • 468

              I may be old fashioned but children SHOULD NOT be allowed to listen to adult conversations because they don't need to know what adults talk about and they need to worry about being a child!!! What if they went home and told their parent what the child done in daycare and the next morning the parent wants to know what happened and if it involved her child? How would you respond?????

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              • Blackcat31
                • Oct 2010
                • 36124

                Originally posted by springvalley112
                I may be old fashioned but children SHOULD NOT be allowed to listen to adult conversations because they don't need to know what adults talk about and they need to worry about being a child!!! What if they went home and told their parent what the child done in daycare and the next morning the parent wants to know what happened and if it involved her child? How would you respond?????
                I don't think it has anything to do with being old fashioned.

                The children in my care over hear most everything I say to other parents/adults and most of it they already know via being present in care and seeing first hand who hit/bit/pushed who etc.

                Most of those kids do go home and tell a parent Johnny hit Billy or Susie pushed Janie but who did what doesn't come from me. I do not tell parents which child hit/bit/pushed their child. This falls under confidentiality and it's discussed upon enrollment so ALL parents know I am not in the business of sharing info like that.

                However, IF a parent did come back to care the next day all riled about about Johnny hitting their child, I would tell them the same thing I said above. Just because they have the information doesn't give them permission to do anything about it. If it became dramatic and the parent demanded I do something.... I would terminate that parent/family.

                Problem solved.

                The ideal solution to not wanting littles to overhear adult conversation is to have adult conversation where there are no little ears to overhear. This could be a phone call or a face to face meeting in a closed office or adult space where DCKs are not allowed.

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                • Blackcat31
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 36124

                  Originally posted by springvalley112
                  I may be old fashioned but children SHOULD NOT be allowed to listen to adult conversations because they don't need to know what adults talk about and they need to worry about being a child!!! What if they went home and told their parent what the child done in daycare and the next morning the parent wants to know what happened and if it involved her child? How would you respond?????
                  Also why is the responsibility the child's in this situation?

                  Wouldn't it be the ADULT'S responsibility to try not to discuss anything the child shouldn't overhear.

                  Adults need to worry about children being children and be the adult in the situation verses placing blame on the child.

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                  • springv
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Sep 2017
                    • 468

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                    • CeriBear
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Feb 2017
                      • 401

                      This is sad rather than a true vent but...

                      On Friday a 4yo child asked me if policemen were bad. I told him no, that police officers are good and help to keep us safe. He then said he heard on TV that police were bad.

                      Makes me sad what kids hear these days.
                      Sad and mad.

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                      • Annalee
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 5864

                        My cousin with dh and two sons (6 and 8) went to Panama city last week and have come back with covid..........are ok but have it. My aunt (this cousin's mom) whom has lung/breathing issues now we think has it but has to be tested???

                        My niece's father and mother in law have it....a medium case for both.

                        My county is seeing a surge with infections, not necessarily deaths, but covid infections. School now starts Monday/10th but now have mandated masks for everyone and I give it two weeks.

                        Again, I'm not scared, per se, but still have major concerns. I am the primary bread winner in my family. Our grants that I have used end in August; so YES I AM CONCERNED FOR MY LIVELIHOOD....getting close to home/community again. Yes; I CAN make everyone pay and I CAN run my business as I want but I still have to have families STAY with me for this to happen....lots of variables affecting EVERY family so they have to do what is best for them as well.

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                        • springv
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Sep 2017
                          • 468

                          There's a girl I graduated high school with that tested positive for covid and is in a bigger hospital on a vent and ECMO.

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                          • Cat Herder
                            Advanced Daycare.com Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 13744

                            I have been trying to get into the forum since 630 this morning. Finally I am here. I was beginning to think I did something.
                            - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                            • CenterTeacher20
                              Center Director
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 199

                              Originally posted by Cat Herder
                              I have been trying to get into the forum since 630 this morning. Finally I am here. I was beginning to think I did something.
                              Same here!!

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                              • Bluemoon5
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Aug 2018
                                • 70

                                DCM let us know that dcb would be in late this morning due to doctor's appointment. Fine, no problem. During the summer we do water play every morning and the kids all come in their bathing suits. Dcb arrives at 10:30 (the time we go outside) in regular clothes and no bathing suit. DCM also leaves a note that dcb has not had snack yet (we eat snack at 9:30). Then later in the morning dcb bites a chunk of flesh out of another child (okay, I might be exaggerating a bit, but it was a nasty bite.) *sigh* TGIF.

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