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  • Annalee
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 5864

    Originally posted by CountryRoads
    Talked with a woman at an event, asked what I do. I told her I run a licensed in-home daycare.

    She told me she also watches kids and said she had 13 kids that day. Turns out she's not even licensed.

    And to think she probably makes more $$ doing less work than me and she's the one running an illegal daycare...
    I had a previous parent text me yesterday with a copy of a "friend that wants to keep kids at home" contract and asked if she needed to add anything else. I replied with "I would be happy to help her as a legally unlicensed or how to get licensed and that she can only keep four without license. NO RESPONSE BACK! ::

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    • CountryRoads
      Daycare.com Member
      • Nov 2018
      • 678

      Originally posted by Annalee
      I had a previous parent text me yesterday with a copy of a "friend that wants to keep kids at home" contract and asked if she needed to add anything else. I replied with "I would be happy to help her as a legally unlicensed or how to get licensed and that she can only keep four without license. NO RESPONSE BACK! ::
      I'm glad you said something! I didn't have the guts to ::

      It also crossed my mind that how could these parents be okay with that many other kids and only 1 provider??

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      • Annalee
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 5864

        Originally posted by CountryRoads
        I'm glad you said something! I didn't have the guts to ::

        It also crossed my mind that how could these parents be okay with that many other kids and only 1 provider??
        It's all about money and the hours of care not the quality, professionalism nor legally-licensed way to too many clients.

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        • Blackcat31
          • Oct 2010
          • 36124

          Originally posted by CountryRoads
          She told me she also watches kids and said she had 13 kids that day.
          Originally posted by CountryRoads
          It also crossed my mind that how could these parents be okay with that many other kids and only 1 provider??
          :confused: I have 12 kids every day. Alone. By myself. Sometimes in the summer months I've had 14 with only myself and a 13 yr helper.

          None of my parents have issues with that many kids and only one provider.

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          • Heidi
            Daycare.com Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 7121

            Yes, but for you, that's legal, you are experienced, educated, and you follow your state's licensing regulations. Every provider I know of that operates illegally has way more kids than they can handle. They provide crap for meals, are stretched too thin, it's pretty chaotic, and they use guidance techniques that aren't exactly um..."best practices". Honestly, it's not usually the number kids a provider has-it's the whole dynamic.

            Originally posted by Blackcat31
            :confused: I have 12 kids every day. Alone. By myself. Sometimes in the summer months I've had 14 with only myself and a 13 yr helper.

            None of my parents have issues with that many kids and only one provider.

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            • Blackcat31
              • Oct 2010
              • 36124

              Originally posted by Heidi
              Yes, but for you, that's legal, you are experienced, educated, and you follow your state's licensing regulations. Every provider I know of that operates illegally has way more kids than they can handle. They provide crap for meals, are stretched too thin, it's pretty chaotic, and they use guidance techniques that aren't exactly um..."best practices". Honestly, it's not usually the number kids a provider has-it's the whole dynamic.


              I gathered it was illegal in the posters state but her comment wasn't in regards to the legality of it all.

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              • CountryRoads
                Daycare.com Member
                • Nov 2018
                • 678

                Originally posted by Blackcat31
                :confused: I have 12 kids every day. Alone. By myself. Sometimes in the summer months I've had 14 with only myself and a 13 yr helper.

                None of my parents have issues with that many kids and only one
                In my state the max is 10 without an assistant, so it seems like alot to me. Especially since she's not licensed and shouldn't have more than 2.

                Wasn't geared towards anyone on here...

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                • Blackcat31
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 36124

                  Originally posted by CountryRoads
                  In my state the max is 10 without an assistant, so it seems like alot to me. Especially since she's not licensed and shouldn't have more than 2.

                  Wasn't geared towards anyone on here...
                  As I posted in response to Heidi; your comment didn't come across as having anything to do with the legality of the situation.

                  I also didn't really think it was geared towards anyone specifically here but to me it was stated in a way that is more or less insulting to those that do have that many kids and only one provider.

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                  • CountryRoads
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Nov 2018
                    • 678

                    Originally posted by Blackcat31
                    As I posted in response to Heidi; your comment didn't come across as having anything to do with the legality of the situation.

                    I also didn't really think it was geared towards anyone specifically here but to me it was stated in a way that is more or less insulting to those that do have that many kids and only one provider.

                    Okay, well let me rephrase it.

                    In my opinion, and that's just what it is - my opinion - 13 is alot of kids for 1 person.

                    But kudos to the providers who can care for that many kids, cause I know I couldn't do it!

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                    • Rockgirl
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • May 2013
                      • 2204

                      When I had after-schoolers, I had 12 most days. Six were toddlers/preschoolers, and the other six were school age. Things actually ran pretty smoothly! We had a routine, plus with that many kids, they all had someone to play with/connect with.

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                      • Ariana
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 8969

                        BlackCat I thought you worked with your husband! I have had 12 kids in centre before either in the beginning of the day or at the end when ratios legally go up. Here there is no ratio above 1:8 for anyone under 6 years old. In schools the ratio is 1:15

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                        • Blackcat31
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 36124

                          Originally posted by Ariana
                          BlackCat I thought you worked with your husband! or anyone under 6 years old. In schools the ratio is 1:15
                          He is our "cook" and leaves his job to come prepare lunch for the kids but other than those 1-1.5 hours in the day I work alone.

                          He is also the resident "fix-it" guy and does repairs and maintenance for my facility but he isn't here full time nor is he licensed as a co-provider at all.

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                          • Blackcat31
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 36124

                            Originally posted by CountryRoads
                            Okay, well let me rephrase it.

                            In my opinion, and that's just what it is - my opinion - 13 is alot of kids for 1 person.

                            But kudos to the providers who can care for that many kids, cause I know I couldn't do it!


                            I respect your opinion. We all have a right to one.

                            For the record I wasn't insulted personally but it did come across differently than it does now that you re-phrased it.

                            Also, it's all in how people interpret things posted too so my perception of what you said is MY perception (i.e. my issue) not yours so it's all good!

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                            • Ariana
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 8969

                              Originally posted by Blackcat31
                              He is our "cook" and leaves his job to come prepare lunch for the kids but other than those 1-1.5 hours in the day I work alone.

                              He is also the resident "fix-it" guy and does repairs and maintenance for my facility but he isn't here full time nor is he licensed as a co-provider at all.
                              Ah! Well kudos to you for handling that by yourself!

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                              • Snowmom
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Jan 2015
                                • 1689

                                I have 12 by myself too. (8 during summer months, 12 during the school year).

                                I find it more chaotic, stressful and overall not fun when I have less than 10. The only time I feel overwhelmed is when I have young infants... so I don't enroll infants. I tend to enroll 12 months-4 years old.

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