Venting Thread

[sharlan]

I hate sitting and waiting. I had to be at the surgery center by 7 for a colonoscopy. 45 mins later and I'm still sitting here, waiting.

I'm hungry, thirsty, and cranky! Plus, I'm exhausted as I got about 2 hrs sleep last night. Not a good combo.

[Annalee]

I hate sitting and waiting. I had to be at the surgery center by 7 for a colonoscopy. 45 mins later and I'm still sitting here, waiting.

I'm hungry, thirsty, and cranky! Plus, I'm exhausted as I got about 2 hrs sleep last night. Not a good combo.

My first colonoscopy is scheduled for saturday. Not looking forward to it but one of those special things I get to do since I turned 50::

[Play Care]

Started 2 boys (siblings) today. Not impressed.

[daycarediva]

Started 2 boys (siblings) today. Not impressed.

I REALLY don't like siblings. I NEVER love both kids.

[daycarediva]

Got a message from DCM of a FT 5yo. "We decided to hold him back a year after meeting with the K registration teacher, so you get to keep him until June 2019."

UM NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I brought up issues, shared articles. Mom was staunchly anti red shirting him. Dcd thought I was the devil incarnate for suggesting that he wasn't ready.

I FILLED THE SPACE IN JUNE with an adorable 2yo who has been on my waiting list since Sept (when they SAID he was leaving for the K readiness summer program...which he now CANNOT ATTEND, because it's a school program).

UGH. JUST UGH!

So here comes an awkward chat. I am NOT keeping him another year. Why do they think I was suggesting UPK and EVERY PRE-K program in a 30 mile radius??

Among issues- not fully independent in the restroom. Has accidents outside 1-2x/month.

VERY poor impulse control.

Serious delays in fine motor skills (can now legibly write his name but it looks like a 3yo wrote it) Cannot use scissors, glue, cap markers.

Cannot follow 2 step directions.

No self help skills.

Poor social skills. Gets frustrated and resorts to grunting.

Problem is, I have his younger sib and we ADOOOOOOREEEEEEEEEEEEEE that child.

[Country Kids]

I have one that needs to go to school, totally ready but parents want to hold back. Not totally sure still why, well I am but it's not academic reasoning. So this child will be a year older than everyone in the class and a year ahead of everyone in the class. Going to be bored...........

[Blackcat31]

I have one that needs to go to school, totally ready but parents want to hold back. Not totally sure still why, well I am but it's not academic reasoning. So this child will be a year older than everyone in the class and a year ahead of everyone in the class. Going to be bored...........

I was a year older than most my peers.
My kids were the same (late Fall birthdays)

I wasn't bored in school at all!
I personally think it's a HUGE boost for self-esteem!

I see starting school later than peers as a positive thing.
Any time parent's ask for my input, I always support holding back if there IS even an inkling of wondering if they should or shouldn't go.

[Annalee]

I was a year older than most my peers.
My kids were the same (late Fall birthdays)

I wasn't bored in school at all!
I personally think it's a HUGE boost for self-esteem!

I see starting school later than peers as a positive thing.
Any time parent's ask for my input, I always support holding back if there IS even an inkling of wondering if they should or shouldn't go.

Mom started me in first grade when I was 4 (my birthday at that time barely made the cutoff in October and kindergarten wasn't going at that time)...so I graduated at 17....my own sons birthdays were Aug and Sept but I held them back for the very reasons you mentioned....the extra year makes so much difference for their future....

[Miss A]

I was a year older than most my peers.
My kids were the same (late Fall birthdays)

I wasn't bored in school at all!
I personally think it's a HUGE boost for self-esteem!

I see starting school later than peers as a positive thing.
Any time parent's ask for my input, I always support holding back if there IS even an inkling of wondering if they should or shouldn't go.

My DS was born 10 days after the local school cutoff. Even if he had been born before, we still would have delayed him starting school. As it is, he will do 3 day preschool at 4, 4 day Jr. Kindergarten at 5, and full kindergarten at 6.

I am 100% in agreement with you on holding back if there is an inkling that it would benefit the child, or the simple fact alone that an extra year to grow socially and emotionally can make all the difference in a child's school success.

[Country Kids]

I was a year older than most my peers.
My kids were the same (late Fall birthdays)

I wasn't bored in school at all!
I personally think it's a HUGE boost for self-esteem!

I see starting school later than peers as a positive thing.
Any time parent's ask for my input, I always support holding back if there IS even an inkling of wondering if they should or shouldn't go.

By the time he starts kindergarten he will be 6 and four months. They want him to be able to go when a good friend goes so they can be in the same class. We only have two kindergarten classes and parents can request. These are the two the depend on each other for everything so I think holding him back isn't the best for this reason. I have no kiddo's his age for next year as all his age will be in school so the next child close to his age just turned four. He is very ready and I think it would be excellent for him to be around more than the kiddo's I have here.

My daughter turned 6 the month after starting kindergarten and was pretty bored as she was way ahead of the kid because she had been with me an extra year. Wasn't challenging for her and it actually started holding her back from learning because she had to wait for the other kids to catch up.

[Annalee]

By the time he starts kindergarten he will be 6 and four months. They want him to be able to go when a good friend goes so they can be in the same class. We only have two kindergarten classes and parents can request. These are the two the depend on each other for everything so I think holding him back isn't the best for this reason. I have no kiddo's his age for next year as all his age will be in school so the next child close to his age just turned four. He is very ready and I think it would be excellent for him to be around more than the kiddo's I have here.

My daughter turned 6 the month after starting kindergarten and was pretty bored as she was way ahead of the kid because she had been with me an extra year. Wasn't challenging for her and it actually started holding her back from learning because she had to wait for the other kids to catch up.

The maturity is why I held back, not the learning. My nephew was able to skip first grade and go straight to second grade from kindergarten....about 4th grade, his parents regretted it but did not change it.he went to college at 17....now is 20 and we can still see the repercussions of making these decisions for him. He will be fine, but the first two years of college were extremely difficult for him not from a grade standpoint but a "ready for the situation, maturity" standpoint.

[Play Care]

My DD is in a class with a girl who was held back. Girl has a July birthday and is nearly a full year older than DD (June Birthday). It hasn't held the girl back at all, she's top of the class, best athlete, etc. It has ****ed for DD who has ADHD and, like it or not, is compared to Golden Girl. DD does well academically but her ADHD manifests in her maturity/emotional regulation. I WISH someone had suggested holding back DD. I didn't realize it was an option when their birthdays were that far from the cut off, which is Dec 1 in our State.

[Blackcat31]

The maturity is why I held back, not the learning. My nephew was able to skip first grade and go straight to second grade from kindergarten....about 4th grade, his parents regretted it but did not change it.he went to college at 17....now is 20 and we can still see the repercussions of making these decisions for him. He will be fine, but the first two years of college were extremely difficult for him not from a grade standpoint but a "ready for the situation, maturity" standpoint.

Yes!! School is about so much more than academics!
The social emotional aspect is a huge part of whether a child will succeed or fail in many areas of life!

If we can give them (the kids) the gift of time, we've done more for them than anything they learn in school will do.

By the time he starts kindergarten he will be 6 and four months. They want him to be able to go when a good friend goes so they can be in the same class. We only have two kindergarten classes and parents can request. These are the two the depend on each other for everything so I think holding him back isn't the best for this reason. I have no kiddo's his age for next year as all his age will be in school so the next child close to his age just turned four. He is very ready and I think it would be excellent for him to be around more than the kiddo's I have here.

But that sounds like a reason to hold him back.
Being dependent on someone else and/or not being able to function without each other isn't very healthy at all.

He doesn't need peers his age to mature.
He needs responsibility and the opportunity to think on his own and make his own decisions. He needs to have an opportunity to be in charge. Being the oldest in a mixed age groups helps build that skill in so many ways!

That is basically the foundation to Montessori education....the younger kids learn from the older kids and the older kids benefit tremendously from being the one to "lead" others.

My daughter turned 6 the month after starting kindergarten and was pretty bored as she was way ahead of the kid because she had been with me an extra year. Wasn't challenging for her and it actually started holding her back from learning because she had to wait for the other kids to catch up.

I've never seen any evidence in regards to kids being bored and it hindering their ability to learn. If that was truly the case with your daughter, did they move her up a grade then or did she skip the next grade? Just curious as this is something being discussed in my current class and its a topic I find interesting.

[MomBoss]

Yes!! School is about so much more than academics!
The social emotional aspect is a huge part of whether a child will succeed or fail in many areas of life!

If we can give them (the kids) the gift of time, we've done more for them than anything they learn in school will do.




But that sounds like a reason to hold him back.
Being dependent on someone else and/or not being able to function without each other isn't very healthy at all.

He doesn't need peers his age to mature.
He needs responsibility and the opportunity to think on his own and make his own decisions. He needs to have an opportunity to be in charge. Being the oldest in a mixed age groups helps build that skill in so many ways!

That is basically the foundation to Montessori education....the younger kids learn from the older kids and the older kids benefit tremendously from being the one to "lead" others.




I've never seen any evidence in regards to kids being bored and it hindering their ability to learn. If that was truly the case with your daughter, did they move her up a grade then or did she skip the next grade? Just curious as this is something being discussed in my current class and its a topic I find interesting.

My brother was a child that could have been in school sooner than he should have. He was super bored because he was ahead of everyone else, so he got in trouble. It wasnt until about 5th grade my mom figured out the problem and he began taking harder courses in middle school so that way he would be more challenged.
He used to ask to go to the bathroom and pee all over the walls, start food fights, constantly goofing off.

[Blackcat31]

My brother was a child that could have been in school sooner than he should have. He was super bored because he was ahead of everyone else, so he got in trouble. It wasnt until about 5th grade my mom figured out the problem and he began taking harder courses in middle school so that way he would be more challenged.
He used to ask to go to the bathroom and pee all over the walls, start food fights, constantly goofing off.

Aw, that’s sad. Your poor brother.

It sounds like a huge gap between maturity level and intelligence level.

That is the gap that needs balance in most cases.