Venting Thread

[Kiki]

If I have this conversation ONE MORE time today, I am going to go BANANAS:

Me to dck: "Hey, that's not a good choice, we don't do that here."
dck: "But I was just [doing what I'm telling them not to do]!"
Me: "That is NOT okay. We are NOT doing it."
dck: "But I'm just [doing what I'm saying not to]!!!"

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I go through this with my oldest dck every single day. 500 times a day. Then once when he's leaving.

[Bookworm]

If I hear my name just one more time from a child that I have given the final word to, I will SCREAM.

[angelicpretty]

I'M VENTING about parents who dragggggggggg out their pick up time! I timed this Mom today at 20 MINUTES! Take your child, pack up their things, and go! She doesn't know how to instruct him to stop playing/doing whatever and pack up so she just stands there asking him over and over!:confused:

I work in a school age center, and my policy is that when a parent is present and has signed their child out, their child is now officially theirs and I no longer am responsible for going over to them and saying "It's time to go." At the same time, it can lead to some really annoying and long pick ups!
UGHHHHHHH.

[Unregistered]

Finally grew my backbone to implement a very small pay increase (which still puts me well within a very reasonable/low rate). I pushed my hours up to close at 430 since I knew all of my current parents are available to pick up by 4.

I offered a higher rate for extended hours should they choose to do that but I made it fairly steep.

Zero cooperation. I agonized over this for many months and did what I thought was the fairest possible thing. I'd wanted to increase the rate much more but thought a smaller increase would be more fair.

I was met with rudeness and zero cooperation. ONe family quit after 3 years of service but told me it had nothing to do with the new contract.

I'd seen the pissed off dcm speaking in the road with the one who later that day, quit for 30 minutes before day care.

I'm devestated and very stressed.

I hope the best will come of this and bring me some appreciative families but oh man, this is rough.

It must be me. I refuse to believe people are that nasty and petty.

If you weren't in another state, I would think I might know that family. A friend referred a friend whose child is 3 because current dcp is raising the rates. They can't afford the increase. Waiting on call. I think I'm priced pretty fair for my area so I don't even know if we'll be a good match.

I'm guessing this happens all over families switching providers after a rate increase.

[AfterSchoolMom]

My normally super happy dc baby is super crabby today. Isn't happy on the floor, in the saucer, in the bouncer, with any of the toys, and fought nap for 40 minutes - then woke up every 15 minutes crying. Now they're awake and crying again for absolutely no reason - they've been fed, changed, burped, no fever, no swollen gums that I can see....

UGH! So frustrating!

[nothingwithoutjoy]

avoid being left in the lurch

I was actually thinking of doing a straight across the board rate but not sure how my parents would react. Thats the thing about childcare they can leave in a minute!

Raising rates is so tricky! I haven't done it yet, in 6 years. I did, however, shave off 1/2 an hour from my day, and stop serving breakfast, which was a subtle way of earning more.

I charge parents a two-week security deposit at the beginning of care. That way, if they decide to leave without my two-weeks required notice, I've still been paid.

[angelicpretty]

I'm manage a school age corporate center and I heard this from a Dad as he was picking up his son today. (Dad thought I was busy at the computer and wasn't listening. Well I was.)

(I had asked the boy to clean up a game before he left. It's a game where the pieces fit into specific slots in the box.)

Dad: "Women like to wear pants that make their butts too big and they think they run the show, but you don't have to listen to them. Life lesson for the day. Just throw the pieces in the box and let's go."


WOW! I just stared in disbelief as they walked out. My jaw hit the floor on that one! I cannot believe he is raising his son like that and I fear for how he will treat women in his future.

[temom]

I'm manage a school age corporate center and I heard this from a Dad as he was picking up his son today. (Dad thought I was busy at the computer and wasn't listening. Well I was.)

(I had asked the boy to clean up a game before he left. It's a game where the pieces fit into specific slots in the box.)

Dad: "Women like to wear pants that make their butts too big and they think they run the show, but you don't have to listen to them. Life lesson for the day. Just throw the pieces in the box and let's go."

WOW! I just stared in disbelief as they walked out. My jaw hit the floor on that one! I cannot believe he is raising his son like that and I fear for how he will treat women in his future.

sigh!!! i hope for the kid's sake that he is a mama's boy

[Kiki]

I'm manage a school age corporate center and I heard this from a Dad as he was picking up his son today. (Dad thought I was busy at the computer and wasn't listening. Well I was.)

(I had asked the boy to clean up a game before he left. It's a game where the pieces fit into specific slots in the box.)

Dad: "Women like to wear pants that make their butts too big and they think they run the show, but you don't have to listen to them. Life lesson for the day. Just throw the pieces in the box and let's go."


WOW! I just stared in disbelief as they walked out. My jaw hit the floor on that one! I cannot believe he is raising his son like that and I fear for how he will treat women in his future.

Yea..that about sums it up. I hope that went in one ear and right back out the other!

[saved4always]

I'm manage a school age corporate center and I heard this from a Dad as he was picking up his son today. (Dad thought I was busy at the computer and wasn't listening. Well I was.)

(I had asked the boy to clean up a game before he left. It's a game where the pieces fit into specific slots in the box.)

Dad: "Women like to wear pants that make their butts too big and they think they run the show, but you don't have to listen to them. Life lesson for the day. Just throw the pieces in the box and let's go."


WOW! I just stared in disbelief as they walked out. My jaw hit the floor on that one! I cannot believe he is raising his son like that and I fear for how he will treat women in his future.

Wow. Way to teach his son to respect women. I am with the pp who said they hope he is mama's boy. That's the only way he has any chance of growing up to be a decent man.

[LindaatChildsplaymn]

Potty Problems

Hi there,
I am new to this forum but sooooo need to vent about potty training. I am frustrated at the age (and now mine is showing) that children are expected to be potty trained! 3!?! 4!?! For as many years as it has been tracked ... like hundreds ... children have been basically toilet trained by 2 yrs. old ... until 2002 ... (Is that when "Pull-Ups" became popular?) Any way none of us are emotionally scarred by being able to pee/poop in a pot by the time we were two!!!
For 4 years I have had a childcare in my home the kids were trained before they turned 3 yo. But now I have 2 kids that are pushing 4 yo they no longer fit on a changing table! Parent participation is intermittent at best ... too busy ... too stressed ... too whatever. I have always said jokingly "Trained by 4 or out the door" ... So yesterday a 3 1/2 yo boy I care for sat on the pot crying ... I said why are you crying ... I don't wanna poop (no he's not constipated). So I said oh silly boy, everybody goes potty you don't need to cry, just push it out quickly and be all done, just like dad and mom etc. 5 min later he has poop smeared all over both hands, both legs and most of the toilet seat. We cleaned him up and everything up. Later on he's on the toilet again ... some poop already in pants and when I put him on the pot his hands went right in between his legs and off the cuff I stupidly say, (again my generation showing), "Do you know what a spanking is?? Because that's what happens when we play and make a big mess with our poop". I of course don't spank ever, I just wanted to make an impression on him. Well the results were mixed ... A. He pooped in the toilet ... no half hour wait, no crying! B. He told his folks I was going to spank him ... UGH PROBLEM!!! This morning I end up apologizing to him and his mom and feeling really stupid! Thing is I am still pissed off that people don't train their kids ... pissed off that when the "Pull-Ups" are pulled down that adult size, smelly poop is spilled all over the floor, still pissed off that is deemed better, convenient and more efficient to put your child in a diaper to go to the MALL ... ok honey just piss and crap all over yourself ... mommy wants to shop uninterrupted!!!!!! I honestly think it is neglectful to not train your child and expect others to do this for you. ... frustrated and feeling stupid!!!

[DCP]

Hi there,
I am new to this forum but sooooo need to vent about potty training. I am frustrated at the age (and now mine is showing) that children are expected to be potty trained! 3!?! 4!?! For as many years as it has been tracked ... like hundreds ... children have been basically toilet trained by 2 yrs. old ... until 2002 ... (Is that when "Pull-Ups" became popular?) Any way none of us are emotionally scarred by being able to pee/poop in a pot by the time we were two!!!
For 4 years I have had a childcare in my home the kids were trained before they turned 3 yo. But now I have 2 kids that are pushing 4 yo they no longer fit on a changing table! Parent participation is intermittent at best ... too busy ... too stressed ... too whatever. I have always said jokingly "Trained by 4 or out the door" ... So yesterday a 3 1/2 yo boy I care for sat on the pot crying ... I said why are you crying ... I don't wanna poop (no he's not constipated). So I said oh silly boy, everybody goes potty you don't need to cry, just push it out quickly and be all done, just like dad and mom etc. 5 min later he has poop smeared all over both hands, both legs and most of the toilet seat. We cleaned him up and everything up. Later on he's on the toilet again ... some poop already in pants and when I put him on the pot his hands went right in between his legs and off the cuff I stupidly say, (again my generation showing), "Do you know what a spanking is?? Because that's what happens when we play and make a big mess with our poop". I of course don't spank ever, I just wanted to make an impression on him. Well the results were mixed ... A. He pooped in the toilet ... no half hour wait, no crying! B. He told his folks I was going to spank him ... UGH PROBLEM!!! This morning I end up apologizing to him and his mom and feeling really stupid! Thing is I am still pissed off that people don't train their kids ... pissed off that when the "Pull-Ups" are pulled down that adult size, smelly poop is spilled all over the floor, still pissed off that is deemed better, convenient and more efficient to put your child in a diaper to go to the MALL ... ok honey just piss and crap all over yourself ... mommy wants to shop uninterrupted!!!!!! I honestly think it is neglectful to not train your child and expect others to do this for you. ... frustrated and feeling stupid!!!

Linda - while I completely feel your pain I have mixed feelings on this one. I have some clients that their child is ready..but parent is NOT! This of course is the type I assume you speak of.
There are also some children that are insanely stubborn and training is beyond difficult. I started my twin girls as soon as they could understand what the word meant. (under two!!) they were not trained FULLY until they were FOUR!!! I remember crying because here I am a childcare provider and I can not train my own kids - my oldest was not even two yet and fully trained so it was a huge challenge. Thing with kids is..when it comes to this..we have almost NO control...and they know it LOL
For the parents that I hope you are speaking of...like I said I feel for you. I have a headache of my own...Mom not ready BUT CHILD IS (child even talks about it as I have others here in training..I have attempted but can not if Mom is not on board..I need them to participate to make it happen) and then I have another, Mom is ready but child is not even close!

And lesson learned...once they start talking you HAVE to monitor your own words This alone could cause some major headaches for you down the road..so be very careful with your wording around the DC kids (even if not talking to them directly)

[Unregistered]

Lesson Learned Indeed

Linda - while I completely feel your pain I have mixed feelings on this one. I have some clients that their child is ready..but parent is NOT! This of course is the type I assume you speak of.
There are also some children that are insanely stubborn and training is beyond difficult. I started my twin girls as soon as they could understand what the word meant. (under two!!) they were not trained FULLY until they were FOUR!!! I remember crying because here I am a childcare provider and I can not train my own kids - my oldest was not even two yet and fully trained so it was a huge challenge. Thing with kids is..when it comes to this..we have almost NO control...and they know it LOL
For the parents that I hope you are speaking of...like I said I feel for you. I have a headache of my own...Mom not ready BUT CHILD IS (child even talks about it as I have others here in training..I have attempted but can not if Mom is not on board..I need them to participate to make it happen) and then I have another, Mom is ready but child is not even close!

And lesson learned...once they start talking you HAVE to monitor your own words This alone could cause some major headaches for you down the road..so be very careful with your wording around the DC kids (even if not talking to them directly)

Thanks DCP ... for sharing your experience. Your story helped me understand. And you betcha, lesson learned!

[DCP]

You are very welcome!!!! Potty training (or learning as we are instructed to use LOL) is a touchy and frustrating subject. Some kids get it NO problem and others like the control of it. Every one used to tell me..have you ever met a kindergartener in diapers?? LOL

They will get there, you just need to decide if they are worth training or not. If it is a huge issue for you, you have to demand participation from parents or let them know this is not the place for their child and give them a termination letter.

best of luck either way!!!

[Country Kids]

You are very welcome!!!! Potty training (or learning as we are instructed to use LOL) is a touchy and frustrating subject. Some kids get it NO problem and others like the control of it. Every one used to tell me..have you ever met a kindergartener in diapers?? LOL

They will get there, you just need to decide if they are worth training or not. If it is a huge issue for you, you have to demand participation from parents or let them know this is not the place for their child and give them a termination letter.

best of luck either way!!!

My friend that is a kindergarten teacher has a few in pullups in her class. No, there's nothing delayed about them, just not potty trained.