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  • Crystal
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 4002

    #61
    "She told sheriff’s detectives she took the baby upstairs to sleep after he was crying downstairs. She initially told detectives that she put the baby in an upstairs crib but subsequently admitted that she left the baby asleep upstairs in a car seat.

    She also admitted that she checked on Avin at about 4:30 p.m., found that he was not breathing and in a panic, then put Avin in the crib and left him.

    According to the arrest affidavit, Caceres told detectives she noticed mucous coming from Avin’s mouth and “knew something was wrong with him but that she had never dealt with a baby not breathing before and just went into denial and moved him into the crib and left him.”


    It WAS all about the crying!!!!!

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    • Crystal
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 4002

      #62
      "Caceres also told detectives that she didn’t make any phone calls after finding Avin not breathing, but phone records showed she called her father, Bryan Ellis, her husband, Gonzalo Caceres, and her close friend, Jennifer Clinton. Records also show her father, Bryan Ellis, called his brother, Greg Ellis, at 4:12 p.m, and Greg Ellis admitted to detectives that his brother told him “that a baby was found unresponsive at Sheila Caceres’ residence,” according to the affidavit"

      As I suspected, she made phone calls trying to figure out how to cover her butt..............I think these people that she called who failed to report should also be held ac****able!!!!

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      • sharlan
        Daycare.com Member
        • May 2011
        • 6067

        #63
        Originally posted by Crystal
        "Caceres also told detectives that she didn’t make any phone calls after finding Avin not breathing, but phone records showed she called her father, Bryan Ellis, her husband, Gonzalo Caceres, and her close friend, Jennifer Clinton. Records also show her father, Bryan Ellis, called his brother, Greg Ellis, at 4:12 p.m, and Greg Ellis admitted to detectives that his brother told him “that a baby was found unresponsive at Sheila Caceres’ residence,” according to the affidavit"

        As I suspected, she made phone calls trying to figure out how to cover her butt..............I think these people that she called who failed to report should also be held ac****able!!!!
        I agree with you. An infant was dead or dying - how in the hell do you not respond immediately? My first call would have been to 911. The second would have been to the parents.

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        • Crystal
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 4002

          #64
          State of Ca. EMSA training requirements/course content:

          § 100000.30. Required Course Content.
          (a) The course content for pediatric first aid and CPR shall include instruction to result in
          competence in the following topics and skills, which shall prepare personnel within the child care setting to recognize and treat the ill or injured child, as follows:
          (1) Patient examination and injury assessment principles;
          (2) Orientation and access to the emergency medical services system;
          (3) Recognition and treatment of:
          (A) Burns;
          (B) Environmental exposure;
          (C) Bleeding;
          (D) Bites and stings (including human, animal, snake, insect and marine life);
          (E) Fainting and seizures;
          (F) Dental emergencies;
          (G) Diabetic emergencies;
          (H) Eye injuries and irritants;
          (I) Head and neck injuries;
          (J) Respiratory distress (including use of inhaled medications and nebulizers for children with lung diseases);
          (K) Fractures and sprains;
          (L) Exposure and response to toxic substances;
          (M) Shock management; and
          (N) Wounds (including cuts, bruises, scrapes, punctures, slivers, penetrating injuries from foreign objects, amputations and avulsions).
          (4) Assembly and use of first aid kits and supplies;
          (5) Understanding of standard precautions and personal safety in giving emergency care;
          (6) First aid action plan within a group care setting (including classroom management while caring for an injured or ill child);
          (7) Injury reporting;
          (8) Reassuring parents and children in an emergency situation and;
          (9) How to talk to young children about emergencies and instructing children in the emergency action plan.
          (b) The course content for preventive health and safety training shall include instruction to result in competence in the following topics and skills, which shall prepare personnel to recognize, manage, and prevent infectious diseases and childhood injuries as follows:
          (1) Prevention of Infectious Disease.
          (A) Standard precautions.
          1. Sanitation;
          2. Hand washing; and
          3. Use of gloves.
          (B) Hygiene for children and care givers.
          1. Hand washing; and
          2. Diapering.
          (C) Childhood immunizations; i.e., age and type requirements;
          (D) Maintenance of health records and forms;
          (E) Process for review of medical form information, including medication administration, allergies, immunizations, and health insurance; and
          (F) Infectious disease policies.
          1. Notices for exposure to disease;
          2. Guidelines for the exclusion/inclusion of sick children;
          3. Diseases that should be reported to local health agencies and to the child care facility children’s parents;
          4. Guidelines for managing mildly ill children; and
          5. Guidelines for staff health regarding potential risk of infectious diseases, including but not limited to cytomegalovirus (CMV) and Hepatitis B.
          (G) Community Resources, to include information on local resources for services that deal with children’s health and the prevention of infectious disease shall be given to trainees by the training instructor.
          (2) Child Injury Prevention
          (A) Risk of injury related to developmental stages (i.e., falling, choking, head injuries);
          (B) Establishing and adhering to safety policies in the child care setting;
          (C) Procedures to reduce the risks of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) and Shaken Baby Syndrome;
          (D) Managing children’s risky behaviors that can lead to injury;
          (E) Regular assessments for the safety of indoor and outdoor child care environments and play equipment; and
          (F) Transportation of children during child care.
          1. Motor vehicle safety;
          2. Child passenger safety;
          3. Field trip safety; and
          4. School bus safety.
          (G) Community resources, to include information on local resources for services that deal with children’s health and the prevention of childhood injuries shall be given to trainees by the training instructor.
          (H) Child abuse resources, i.e., where to go in your community for help and information regarding child abuse.
          (c) The course content for preventive health training may include instruction in the following:
          (1) Children’s nutrition, i.e., age-appropriate meal planning to ensure nutritional requirements and the correct portions of food for monitoring children’s food intake.
          (A) The food pyramid and how to apply it to children;
          (B) Appropriate eating behaviors for children (i.e., snacking); and
          (C) Specialized diets, including diet restrictions based upon medical needs. These medical needs include but are not limited to food allergies and diabetes.
          (D) Awareness of feeding/growth problems such as failure-to-thrive.
          (E) The connection between diet and dental decay in children.
          (2) Environmental sanitation.
          (A) Vector prevention;
          (B) Kitchen cleanliness and sanitation practices;
          (C) Toilet and diapering area sanitation.
          (3) Air quality.
          (A) Hazards of smoking (including, second hand smoke);
          (B) Importance of keeping air filters clean;
          (C) Importance of fresh air;
          (D) Hazards of use of fireplaces; and
          (E) The connection between allergens and children’s respiratory illnesses, and how to reduce airborne allergens.
          (4) Food quality.
          (A) Safe food practices;
          (B) Safe food handling;
          (C) Cooking safety;
          (D) Preparing foods safely (i.e., washing produce; keeping raw meats and utensils used on raw meats away from cooked foods or foods that will be eaten raw; the importance of keeping cold foods cold, and hot foods hot);
          (E) Safe storage of food (including prevention of lead poisoning);
          (F) Fully cooking meats and eggs;
          (G) Use of only pasteurized fruit juices; and
          (H) Dangers of e. coli and salmonella.
          (5) Water quality.
          (6) Children with special needs.
          (A) Knowledge of resources for services for children with special health care needs; and
          (B) Knowledge of the Americans with Disabilities Act, and how it pertains to children with special needs in child care.
          (7) Community resources, knowledge of city, county and state resources, both non-profit and governmental, for services for children.
          (8) Child abuse identification and prevention.
          (A) Child abuse mandated reporting requirements;
          (B) Signs of child abuse and neglect; and
          (C) Care giver stress and the relation of this to abuse issues.
          (9) Procedures to reduce the risks of the following injuries, including but not limited to: burns, choking, falls, poisonings (lead, iron, acetaminophen, and other medications), oral injury, suffocation, drowning, injuries from weapons, and injuries from animals.
          (10) Earthquake and emergency preparedness.
          (A) Preparing the child care environment for major disasters; and
          (B) Community resources for gaining information regarding preparing for disasters and/or assistance in case of a disaster.
          NOTE: Authority cited: Sections 1797.107 and 1797.191, Health and Safety Code. Reference: Sections 1596.798, 1596.8661, 1597.866, and 1797.191, Health and Safety Code; Section 3765 Business and Professions Code.

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          • nannyde
            All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
            • Mar 2010
            • 7320

            #65


            Story starts on page five.
            http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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            • daycare
              Advanced Daycare.com *********
              • Feb 2011
              • 16259

              #66
              so she had a large lic but she did not have an asst.?

              I just got done reading the whole report. NOt sure what to say really. It is so very sad and I feel for both the family and the provider. Sounds like she freaked out under pressure, but at the same time also sounds like she has some screws lose??

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              • Cat Herder
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 13744

                #67
                Originally posted by nannyde
                Just WOW.

                Even told her 15 year old to lie
                - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                • daycare
                  Advanced Daycare.com *********
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 16259

                  #68
                  yeah what a great thing to teach your child to do. This whole story sounds a little screwy. SOunds like even the family might be trying to cover for her as well. Everyone involved has a lot of I cant recall and conflicting stories...

                  Ugh, this is why I can't do babies....Im afraid of them....

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                  • mom2many
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 1278

                    #69
                    I got my 15 hours of Health & Safety through the American Red Cross- Santa Clara Valley Chapter and this was not covered... granted that was many years ago, so it could be different now. I would sure hope so, because this is so extremely important to educate providers on.

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                    • Heidi
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 7121

                      #70
                      Well, that does clear a few things up! Initially, it was made to sound like she left Avin for hours after he'd died.

                      I can see how she'd freak out, I guess. She freaked out because she broke the rules, and she broke the rules because she had too many kids to take care of by herself, including a part time infant who does not sleep well, and who's crying distracts everyone else.

                      She knew she'd broken the rules, probably thought they were dumb like we all sometimes do. But, if one knowingly breaks the rules, then something happens, panic sets in.

                      The little guy may have survived with CPR, maybe not. We will never know.

                      I personally don't see her as a horrible person, but someone who made a very bad decision, and that will cost her dearly, and of course, cost the family of Avin dearly.

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                      • daycare
                        Advanced Daycare.com *********
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 16259

                        #71
                        Originally posted by mom2many
                        I got my 15 hours of Health & Safety through the American Red Cross- Santa Clara Valley Chapter and this was not covered... granted that was many years ago, so it could be different now. I would sure hope so, because this is so extremely important to educate providers on.
                        ditto I learned about sids through a class I took on my own. NOT through the CA Health and Safety class

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                        • nannyde
                          All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 7320

                          #72
                          After reading the affidavit I'm wondering if the provider didn't take the baby upstairs and prop a bottle while he was in the car seat....... send the kid up to check on him..... the kid either didn't do it or did it too late....... and found the kid burried in whatever she used to prop the bottle.

                          I'm wondering if the baby suffocated in whatever was used to prop the bottle. I'm wondering if the teenager was supposed to check on him and didn't or found him buried in the cloth.

                          Some of the stuff just doesn't add up.

                          A two month old drinking a six ounce bottle.
                          A baby that arrived at one is eating a bottle at 3:45 but teenager said the baby was in it for two hours. Dad came an hour and ten minutes later. So that would mean the kid was already in the seat during the time the provider said she fed him a whole bottle. Six ounce feeding for a two month old would take a while.

                          The provider left the kid away from the other kids even after knowing he had died but remember that one of the other kids is a FOUR year old sibling who can most likely fully talk.

                          I don't know. I'm just guessing but there HAS to be SOMETHING more than just having a kid on the second level of the house. She HAD to have done something else wrong..... really wrong...... that caused her to want to hide what happened. She may be protecting the teen if the teen was supposed to do the feeding???

                          I believe that the kid was fussy. I think she wanted to get him away from her and the kids. I think she had to keep the crying away from the sibling. What I can't figure out is the feeding in the middle of this and why she would have a kid in a car seat when she had a portacrib right in the room. What's easy about hauling a car seat up to a second floor with a kid in it? If she had him awake during the feeding right before she took him up there then why wouldn't she just take HIM up to the playpen? When you are climbing stairs all day long you don't take unnecessary crap up with you.

                          The car seat HAD to have served some purpose in the room other than holding the kid. It makes more sense to me that she had him in the seat to FEED him but she had to be downstairs with the other kids. She or the teen was supposed to be checking on him but they didn't until it was too late.

                          I could be way off. It could be her not wanting to wake him and leaving him in a seat after a feeding and him dying of positional asphyxia. He was only there four hours and there isn't an accounting of where she was during the first hour and forty five minutes.

                          With the phone records it makes me think that the kid got to the grandpas at four... the grandpa called the provider at 4:07 so the baby most likely was found dead right before four. The provider claims she fed him at 3:45.

                          The feeding has something to do with this........
                          http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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                          • dave4him
                            Advanced Daycare.com Member
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 1333

                            #73
                            hate that so much!
                            "God said, ‘I have found David son of Jesse, a man after my own heart. He will do everything I want him to do.'"
                            Acts 13:22

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                            • sharlan
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 6067

                              #74
                              I agree, things just aren't adding up. IMHO, natural instinct would be to take the baby out of the carseat to feed. It's awkward to feed an infant in a carseat. As you said, why carry a heavy, bulky infant carseat upstairs when you don't have to. You take the baby out of the carseat, feed it, change it's diaper, then place the baby in a crib. I can't see doing all of that and then putting the baby back into the carseat and carrying everything upstairs.

                              Sad thing, there have been so many lies that I don't think anyone will ever know what the truth is. The only person who does know the truth has told so many lies that she probably doesn't even know what the truth is anymore.

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                              • mom2many
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Jun 2011
                                • 1278

                                #75
                                Originally posted by nannyde
                                After reading the affidavit I'm wondering if the provider didn't take the baby upstairs and prop a bottle while he was in the car seat....... send the kid up to check on him..... the kid either didn't do it or did it too late....... and found the kid burried in whatever she used to prop the bottle.

                                I'm wondering if the baby suffocated in whatever was used to prop the bottle. I'm wondering if the teenager was supposed to check on him and didn't or found him buried in the cloth.

                                Some of the stuff just doesn't add up.

                                A two month old drinking a six ounce bottle.
                                A baby that arrived at one is eating a bottle at 3:45 but teenager said the baby was in it for two hours. Dad came an hour and ten minutes later. So that would mean the kid was already in the seat during the time the provider said she fed him a whole bottle. Six ounce feeding for a two month old would take a while.

                                The provider left the kid away from the other kids even after knowing he had died but remember that one of the other kids is a FOUR year old sibling who can most likely fully talk.

                                I don't know. I'm just guessing but there HAS to be SOMETHING more than just having a kid on the second level of the house. She HAD to have done something else wrong..... really wrong...... that caused her to want to hide what happened. She may be protecting the teen if the teen was supposed to do the feeding???

                                I believe that the kid was fussy. I think she wanted to get him away from her and the kids. I think she had to keep the crying away from the sibling. What I can't figure out is the feeding in the middle of this and why she would have a kid in a car seat when she had a portacrib right in the room. What's easy about hauling a car seat up to a second floor with a kid in it? If she had him awake during the feeding right before she took him up there then why wouldn't she just take HIM up to the playpen? When you are climbing stairs all day long you don't take unnecessary crap up with you.

                                The car seat HAD to have served some purpose in the room other than holding the kid. It makes more sense to me that she had him in the seat to FEED him but she had to be downstairs with the other kids. She or the teen was supposed to be checking on him but they didn't until it was too late.

                                I could be way off. It could be her not wanting to wake him and leaving him in a seat after a feeding and him dying of positional asphyxia. He was only there four hours and there isn't an accounting of where she was during the first hour and forty five minutes.

                                With the phone records it makes me think that the kid got to the grandpas at four... the grandpa called the provider at 4:07 so the baby most likely was found dead right before four. The provider claims she fed him at 3:45.

                                The feeding has something to do with this........
                                I agree. This is so horribly tragic and I'm thinking the infant being fed in the car seat with a bottle propped up is a very plausible scenario. He could have either suffocated from whatever was used to prop the bottle or from positional asphyxia...either way it would explain the use of a car seat, when a bed is right there in the room.

                                This just makes me sick.

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