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  • Crystal
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 4002

    So Sad, And Scary....

    This was in the paper yesterday. I happen to know this provider and conducted her FCCERS a couple of years ago. I cannot believe how she reacted in this situation and am deeply saddened for all involved:

  • NiNi.R.
    Daycare.com Member
    • May 2011
    • 237

    #2
    Oh I teared up reading this. That is just sickening. That poor poor family

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    • sharlan
      Daycare.com Member
      • May 2011
      • 6067

      #3
      My heart goes out to the family that lost their child. No one should ever have to bury their child.

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      • Blackcat31
        • Oct 2010
        • 36124

        #4
        That was an awful story. I can't believe she conscientiously thought to simply lay the baby down elsewhere when she already knew he was unresponsive! That decision was the different between intentional and unintentional death!! WOW!!

        I understand the panic she must have felt but she should also have known that the rules we have in place (ie. no sleeping in carseats) are in place for specific reasons.

        How heartbreaking for everyone involved.

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        • sharlan
          Daycare.com Member
          • May 2011
          • 6067

          #5
          Originally posted by Blackcat31
          That was an awful story. I can't believe she conscientiously thought to simply lay the baby down elsewhere when she already knew he was unresponsive! That decision was the different between intentional and unintentional death!! WOW!!

          I understand the panic she must have felt but she should also have known that the rules we have in place (ie. no sleeping in carseats) are in place for specific reasons.

          How heartbreaking for everyone involved.
          OT - My daughter was told by her OB and PEDI to NEVER allow her son to be in a carseat unless he was in the car. She was also told to never use the carset with a stroller. He had breathing issues at birth and both drs said that being curled up in a carseat puts pressure on the lungs.

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          • Crystal
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 4002

            #6
            In Cali if you are licensed for 14 you are not EVER allowed to use the upstairs, for any child. I don't understand WHY the infant was upstairs....she actually had the entire downstairs dedicated space for daycare WITH a bedroom set up as a nursery with three cribs. I don't know why she would place the infant upstairs.

            I am sick.

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            • Blackcat31
              • Oct 2010
              • 36124

              #7
              Originally posted by Crystal
              In Cali if you are licensed for 14 you are not EVER allowed to use the upstairs, for any child. I don't understand WHY the infant was upstairs....she actually had the entire downstairs dedicated space for daycare WITH a bedroom set up as a nursery with three cribs. I don't know why she would place the infant upstairs.

              I am sick.
              My initial thought was she had the baby in his carseat in the downstairs area but didn't notice he was unresponsive until she actually touched him or check on him. I would venture to guess that she then placed him upstairs (already knowing he was unresponsive) thinking that being in trouble for using the upstairs was better than leaving him in his carseat and being responsible for causing his death by leaving him in his carseat. Putting him upstairs was an easy way for her to act as though it was SIDS and was not related to anything she directly did or didn't do.

              Of course I am only speculating but I am guessing that she thought it would cover up the fact that she left him in his carseat and the lesser of two evils would be using the upstairs vs the carseat. Being upstairs would not have caused his breathing difficulties/death while the carseat did.....kwim?

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              • Holladee
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 36

                #8
                That poor, poor family. How devastating.

                The comments on that article are making me sick. I quit reading after the first few basically saying parents were responsible. "Why would they go through fertility treatments just to dump the kid at a daycare?" Seriously? We're going to blame the parents here?

                I cannot even begine to imagine. I pray I never have to.

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                • nannyde
                  All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 7320

                  #9
                  Crystal why do you think her only consequence is to not be able to do child care?

                  :confused:
                  It sounds like they didn't find abuse in the autopsy. Sounds like it may have been a positional asphyxia death.
                  http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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                  • Crystal
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 4002

                    #10
                    I certainly don't suspect abuse. It sounds like positional asphyxia to me as well. Sheila was a great provider, not for one second have I thought she abused the child. I think this was a case of extremely poor judgement and panic/shock. That doesn't negate her responbsibility to call though and I am beside myself trying to figure out WHY she didn't call. She may have saved his life and her livelihood at the same time.


                    They haven't ruled out charges yet.....it is still possible that she will be charged for failure to call 911 and for lying to the police. I would expect a civil suit against her as well.

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                    • Hunni Bee
                      False Sense Of Authority
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 2397

                      #11
                      ...letting one child wander away from the home and having sex in front of at least one child in her care...



                      That is despicable. And these were ongoing things before the baby died. What made her be able to go to sleep at night and get up and watch these people's children again and again?

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                      • daycare
                        Advanced Daycare.com *********
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 16259

                        #12
                        If this women did those things mentioned in the article, or was acused of those things then how in the world did she get provider of the year??? Maybe getting the award went to her head and she got lazy...UGH

                        so sad for this family and I do feel for the provider as well. We never know what could happen day to day and how we will respond. When in shock people don't make the best of judgment calls....Still it's no excuse, just saying...

                        thanks for sharing this story

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                        • countrymom
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 4874

                          #13
                          some of the things don't make sense. Like how do they know about the medication being left out or her sex thing or letting the kid wonder. Who said those things and why weren't they ever brought up before.

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                          • nannyde
                            All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 7320

                            #14


                            A grieving mother doesn't need strangers to lecture. The story doesn't state: that was Avin's 2nd "week" at daycare, after his mom took as much time off as income would allow. Between her schedule and her husband's schedule, Avin was in daycare 3 hours a day, twice a week. Mr. Rominger had 4 10 hour work days, Mrs. Rominger got two weekdays off (worked weekends). She worked 1:30-10:00pm. He worked 6am to 4pm. They arranged their schedules so the kids would not spend in full time daycare. The day in question: dropped off by his mom at 1:15, dad arrived at 4:15 to pick up. Three short hours. Life lost within three hours. Horrible. But Sheila didn't cause Avin's death, much as the people want someone to blame.

                            This is in the comment section but it makes it a little bit more suspicious.

                            If this is correct he would have had only a few hours in day care total.

                            I'm wondering if there is a chance she actually laid him down on his belly to sleep and did the stall to call 911 because she knew she had to reposition him to show that he WASN'T in the face down position. It would take TIME and gravity to have his blood pooling change.

                            The high incidence of SIDS in child care is in part because providers put babies who have never been on their belly on their belly to muffle the crying and to wear them out. This happens often on the first day of child care. Because this kid was so part time and had only had a few hours of time total in child care he may have had what was equivallent to one full day of day care when this happened.
                            http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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                            • Crystal
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 4002

                              #15
                              I am wondering where her assistant was when this happened. Unless she had several out that day, her assistant should have been there.

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